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True but irrelevant. The point is that GOI exerts diplomatic pressure in support of Tamils outside India.

Not really. Protect minority rights is a standard refrain for the MEA. By the way, about that Rahul Gandhi link you posted, the only reason he said that was because he was afraid that the UPA and its allies would lose the Tamil vote. It was purely politics, nothing to do with diplomacy.


And the Sri Lankan government would have told you exaclty where to shove that suggestion.

You do realize that without India's help, LTTE would not have been so effectively destroyed? Who do you think helped in eliminating the LTTE naval wing? It wasn't the PN or the PLN.

Sri Lanka is not the little, dependent puppy you guys think they are. With Pakistan and, increasingly, China in the picture, India's bullying days in Sri Lanka are over.

Yeah, that's why the Sri Lankan president kept on informing the Indian Prime Minister about developments every single day during the last stage of the conflict. The same "privilege" was not extended to Pakistan or China.

The Sri Lankan army also had orders to end the operation before polling began in India.

This is not about bullying. We share a far closer cultural link with Sri Lanka. It is obvious they would be sensitive to Indian demands.
 
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Not really. Protect minority rights is a standard refrain for the MEA. By the way, about that Rahul Gandhi link you posted, the only reason he said that was because he was afraid that the UPA and its allies would lose the Tamil vote. It was purely politics, nothing to do with diplomacy.

India has done more than just talk. And India is selective in its concern for minorities in Sri Lanka.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/38864-treatment-muslim-refugees-sri-lanka.html

Indian Government, for example, set aside Rs 500 crores for Tamil IDPs. It would have been nice if India, in the same spirit, had allocated at least Rs 500 for the approximately 130,000 Northern Muslims refugees during the past 20 years. After all their misery was caused by the LTTE which, together with other Tamil militants, were armed, trained and financed by India

You do realize that without India's help, LTTE would not have been so effectively destroyed? Who do you think helped in eliminating the LTTE naval wing? It wasn't the PN or the PLN.

It was India who created the monster, so it's only right that they should help kill it. India only did so after the monster bit it.

Yeah, that's why the Sri Lankan president kept on informing the Indian Prime Minister about developments every single day during the last stage of the conflict. The same "privilege" was not extended to Pakistan or China.

The Sri Lankan army also had orders to end the operation before polling began in India.

This is not about bullying. We share a far closer cultural link with Sri Lanka. It is obvious they would be sensitive to Indian demands.

Common sense.

Sri Lanka knew it had to keep India happy in order to kill the LTTE. After all, who better to help kill a monster than its creator and trainer?
 
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I already mentioned it. TOT for latest military and civilian tech, more aid, diplomatic support for areas ranging from terrorism to UNSC.

TOT is not a favor, mate. It is a condition for MRCA. If US don’t want to give TOT; they have the option of not applying for MRCA contest.

For Civilian Tech; we are paying for it. They are not giving to us free of cost. So it is a business relation not a favor.

Diplomatic relations exists between many countries. US do nothing for doing a favor. It only goes by its national interest.

As it should be. But that doesn't mean the Chinese won't be watching with interest.

Let the Chinese watch. India cannot stop doing its business only because of Chinese watch.


A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, an Indian engineer, works at Wallops Island, where the Scout space-launch vehicle (an adaptation of Minuteman ICBM solid-fuel rocket technology) is flown.[3]

1965

Following Kalam’s return to India, the Indian Atomic Energy Commission requests U.S. assistance with the Scout, and NASA provides unclassified reports.[4]

1969-1970

U.S. firms supply equipment for the Solid Propellant Space Booster Plant at Sriharikota.[5]

1970s

Kalam becomes head of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), in charge of developing space launch vehicles.[/I]

I am pretty sure he wasn't working in the kitchen while at NASA.

So NASA has trained Dr. APJ Addul Kalam for some years. In the link provided by you there is no mention of the crap on Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam that you posted on your previous post. Many Indians are now working for NASA. If all these Indians decided to Join ISRO at some stage then they surely use their expertise gained at NASA for ISRO. It is just simple logic. If as per your logic it is called stealing technology, I have no problem. You should complain to NASA so that they stop hiring Indians.

Although India did manage to buy/steal/reverse engineer some technologies earlier, nobody, except maybe the Russians, was offering you significant TOT until recently. US defence contractors were not signing joint development projects with you until now.

The neocon agenda to build up India as a counter to China is well known. I thought you were aware of it. If not, I can try to dig up some article, or you can try google (china india neocon).

By giving TOT or signing JV contracts US companies are doing no favor to India. They are gaining monetarily and we are getting the technology by paying the price to the original developer.

If US is helping India to counter China, we Indians have nothing to complain as long as it is in our national interest. We are a growing country. If US is providing critical technology to us, why should we complain?
 
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India feels the chill as US warms to China

When Manmohan Singh, India’s prime minister, last visited Washington, in 2005, he was presented with a historic gift by then President George W. Bush: the US-India civilian nuclear agreement that ended New Delhi’s decades-old “nuclear pariah” status and was seen as being implicitly aimed at containing a rising China.

Barack Obama has already struck a warm personal rapport with Mr Singh on the sidelines of two G20 summits this year. But as Mr Singh begins a state visit to Washington on Sunday, there is concern in New Delhi that India has moved down the US’s list of priorities, anxieties reinforced by Mr Obama’s emollient overtures to China during his eight-day east-Asian tour last week.

“I don’t think the US has made up its mind as to where it sees India in its geopolitical view,” said Arundhati Ghose, India’s former ambassador to the United Nations.

But US officials have been at pains to emphasise the long-term importance to Washington of its relationship with India, the world’s largest democracy.

“Few relationships matter more to our collective future, or hold greater promise for constructive action on the challenges that matter most for us, than the partnership between the US and India,” William Burns, US undersecretary of state for political affairs, said.

But C. Raja Mohan, an influential Indian strategic affairs analyst, said relations between New Delhi and Washington had suffered from “a bit of exhaustion from both sides” after the breakthroughs of the past few years, which saw the burial of decades-old cold war-era suspicions.

“The Obama administration is very keen on this relationship and wants to move it forward, but in terms of operationally, what’s happened because of the financial crisis, there is that much attention to China,” he said.

Mr Singh’s trip to Washington is seen as the opportunity to revive and reinvigorate those ties.

Certainly working relations have never been better. In the wake of last year’s Mumbai attacks, in which 166 people died, including six Americans, India and the US have engaged in unprecedented intelligence co-operation.

India also signed a $2.1bn (€1.4bn, £1.3bn) deal this year to buy eight maritime reconnaissance aircraft from Boeing, its largest-ever acquisition of US military hardware, and American companies are vying for a $10bn deal to supply 126 fighter jets to update India’s Soviet-era strike force. Bilateral trade, meanwhile, has doubled since 2004 to more than $43bn a year.

It is against this backdrop that the two leaders are expected to explore areas of mutual interest, including Afghanistan, global climate change, the development of green energy, agricultural co-operation and enhancing Indian education.

“The big picture in Washington is that China and India are rising and the Obama administration wants to engage them both to help solve the world’s problems,” said David Rothkopf, a former official in the Clinton administration, which paved the way for Mr Bush’s Indian charm offensive.

Mr Singh’s trip is the first full state visit of the Obama administration, with a White House dinner on Monday to be attended by 400 guests, and is the first time India has headed a US president’s list for a state visit. But diplomatic pageantry will not be sufficient to assuage Indian concerns about Washington’s broader strategic vision, especially after last week when Mr Obama and Hu Jintao, the Chinese president, jointly affirmed their commitment to work for stability in the “south-Asia region”.

New Delhi, which has a tense relationship with China and suspects it of fomenting trouble locally, issued a statement emphasising “non-interference”.

“The Obama administration’s relations with India are guided by the tide of events and we found the desire to cuddle up to China at our expense during his visit to Beijing particularly disconcerting,” said Gopalapuram Parthasarathy, a former Indian high commissioner to Pakistan.

New Delhi and Washington are still struggling to bridge their differences over India’s reprocessing of US-supplied nuclear fuel, which must be resolved before India can buy nuclear reactors from US companies. India is also worried the US is not heeding its views on Afghanistan, for which New Delhi has provided $1.2bn in aid, and its fears about any return of the Taliban.

But whatever prickliness the Indians may have with the US, conversation has never been a problem. The contrast with Mr Obama’s stilted interactions with Mr Hu could not be sharper.
 
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Obviously our living standard is nowhere close to west and it will remain the same in next 10 years. It will improve in coming years but not comparable to Western Standards. Same goes to China. Do you feel the standard of living in China is comparable to West? Please do some Google and compare the standard of living of China with West. Please let me know which favor we want from the west? I will be glad to reply you.

Why must Indians bring China into the mess everytime? Why can't you guys not get jealous for once and just stick to the post above you??
 
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Guys, please stay on topic. I think the issues relating to "Sri Lanka" and "LTTE" are way off-topic.

I would sincerely urge everyone to use the following words more often in your posts:
"I think" "I understand" or "It is my understanding"

instead of words like:

"India thinks" "Pakistan thinks" "US thinks" "Australia thinks"

unless we can provide credible links of official statements by respective governments of these countries.

Regards!
 
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