India gets access to strategic Oman port for military use

[Dalit]

USA is not the only one in Quad nor NATO.
USA is smart created NATO to fight Soviet/Russia
USA created Quad to fight China because NATO may not help US as they have good relationship with China

You are basically repeating what I just said.

China is a big force and the US will require more than just Australia, Japan and India to counter them. Also, China is taking the necessary precautions. They are not sitting idle.

 

[Indian wonk]

My opinion is that QUAD cannot challenge China. China is a big force and the US will require more than just Australia, Japan and India to counter them.

US is more than enough to fight China . Just add the military assets of all 4 countries and you have your answer.
Why do you think China is worried about Quad threated India to not let Australia nor Japan join Quad because China saw it the forming of Quad





Chinese media
New Delhi forum props up ‘Quad’ stance, refuses to listen to China voice

The 3rd annual Raisina Dialogue, organized by India's Ministry of External Affairs and Observer Research Foundation (ORF) in New Delhi from January 16-18 with the theme - "Managing disruptive transition: ideas, institutions and idioms" - revolved around the so-called "order," including regional and world order.

There were two core issues under "order." One is Indo-Pacific, which includes issues in Indo-Pacific security, role of major powers and whether the Asian century means the end of the free order. The other is connectivity and geopolitical and geoeconomic challenges.

China is undoubtedly an important stakeholder in both issues as well as a major target. Paradoxically, there were only two Chinese scholars who spoke on women's issues and nuclear proliferation. Neither did Chinese scholars speak on key issues such as regional security and connectivity nor did they have the opportunity to ask questions. As far as the discussion on connectivity is concerned, I believe the organizers were trying to give an impression that India is the main facilitator of regional connectivity with a role not inferior to China's. They meant to say that New Delhi played a positive role in regional connectivity while other countries were trying to export political influence.

Criticizing the China-proposed connectivity plan, Zalmay Khalilzad, a former US ambassador to Iraq and the UN, said it has changed the international order. Indian speaker Vijay Gokhale raked up the old issue that connectivity projects must be transparent, respect sovereignty and follow international rules.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1086591.shtml




See the Chinese whining about Australia
Why joining Quad is not in Australia's national interest

Australia's joining a quadrilateral group with Japan, India and the US is a bad idea, a very bad idea. It was a bad idea 12 years ago when first pushed by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe during his stunningly brief term as Japan's prime minister, and it remains even more so today. It is a potentially dangerous response to China's ascendancy and flies in the face of more than 30 years of Australian policy engagement with China

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1074747.shtml

 

[Hindustani78]

There is some thing strange about this news. Why do India want to keep an eye on .


I can understand India wants to keep an eye on Gawadar but why India wants to keep Chabahar in sight?

Opening statement of Minister of Petroleum &Natural gas Shri Dharmendra Pradhan at his media interaction here today.

“I want to share with your some historical milestones in the India-UAE oil and gas relations which were accomplished during the State Visit of Prime Minister Modi to the UAE during Feb 10-11.

Two highlights of PM’s visit were the signing of the Concession Agreement between an Indian Consortium and ADNOC for award of 10% stake in Lower Zakum Offshore oil field, and an Agreement between Indian Strategic Petroleum Reserves Ltd (ISPRL) and ADNOC to operationalize the filling up of a strategic petroleum reserve

The Concession Agreement awards 10% participating interest in Abu Dhabi’s offshore Lower Zakum oil field to a consortium of Indian Public Sector companies which comprises ONGC Videsh, IOCL and BPRL. The Agreement, effective from March 9, 2018, was signed at the Royal Palace in Abu Dhabi on Feb 10, 2018 in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and His Highness Sheikh Mohamed bin ZayedAl Nahyan, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi.

There will be no foreign base on Pakistani soil. Hopefully you will get Maldives.

Already Chinese troops and Systems are being deployed on Pakistan Soil.

Around 15,000 Joint Chinese-Pakistan troops are working for the safeguard of CPEC which is directly the root cause of direct confrontation with Republic of India as those are disputed Territories.

 

[Indian wonk]

Abu Dhabi awards offshore oil concession to India’s ONGC


https://www.ft.com/content/7a7d092a-0efa-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277

Abu Dhabi has awarded an Indian consortium a 10 per cent stake in one of its offshore oil concession areas, marking India’s first entry into the oil-rich Gulf emirate’s upstream hydrocarbons sector. State-run Abu Dhabi National Oil Company late on Saturday signed the 40-year deal with the consortium led by ONGC Videsh, the overseas arm of India’s state-owned Oil and Natural Gas Corporation. The consortium, which also includes the Indian Oil Corporation and a unit of Bharat Petroleum, paid a participation fee of 2.2 billion dirhams ($600m) for the 10 per cent stake in the Lower Zakum offshore concession. Other financial terms of the deal, which starts in March, were not released. India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Abu Dhabi’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan witnessed the signing ceremony in the capital of the United Arab Emirates, highlighting closer ties between the Gulf emirate that supplies India with 8 per cent of its rapidly rising crude oil supplies. “I am happy to note that we have progressed from a buyer-seller relationship to an era of mutual investments in the oil and gas sector,” said Mr Modi. Indian energy consumption is forecast to more than double by 2040 as the Indian economy grows to five times larger than its current size and becomes the world’s most populous country. India’s entry into the upstream sector highlights developing relations between India, which has long had close trade relations with the Gulf states and whose nationals form one of the largest communities in the seven-member UAE. Lower Zakum, one of three separate areas making up Adnoc’s former offshore concession zone, is targeting 450,000 barrels a day of crude production. Adnoc will operate the concession, with another partner to be awarded a 30 per cent stake in the 40 percent remaining open to foreign investment. The other Adnoc offshore concessions, Umm Shaif/Nasr and Sateh Al Razboot/Umm Lulu, are targeting oil recovery of 460,000 barrels a day and 215,000 barrels a day, respectively. Adnoc will also award partners 40 per cent stakes in these fields. The offshore concession areas, in which Adnoc has a 60 per cent stake, are currently shared with BP, Total of France and Japan’s Inpex. Adnoc, which plans to raise total oil production capacity to 3.5m barrels a day by the end of this year, currently produces 1.4m barrels a day offshore.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No, please throw some light.

Half of Omans population is Pakistani... mostly work in their Omani military forces... and were settled there in the 50-60s when Sultan of Oman asked for Paks help.. and Baloch people found lucrative jobs.

All of them are dual nationals with immediate or extended families in Pak.

 

[Theparadox]

LOL You think you are the only ones who can form a tag team? Think again. China is busy forming a team of its own. Why do you think the String of Pearls stands for?


LOL at France. The Europeans are neutral spectators in this conflict. France is never going to choose a side against China.

Trailing China, a new defence deal with France gives India a foothold in Indian Ocean

Now take example Djibouti China's only overseas base, there China is against US+France+India. You guys never heard of String of flowers i guess, don't worry for us at present no one is powerful than India in this region.

 

[Indian wonk]

INDIANS ARE THE LARGEST EXPAT POPULATION IN OMAN.

The expat figure in Oman is dominated by three Asian countries where the number of Indians stands at 669,882; Bangladeshis 590,170 and Pakistanis 220,112.


http://timesofoman.com/article/81891

 

[Hindustani78]

Half of Omans population is Pakistani... mostly work in their Omani military forces... and were settled there in the 50-60s when Sultan of Oman asked for Paks help.. and Baloch people found lucrative jobs.

All of them are dual nationals with immediate or extended families in Pak.

Actually they are Indian tribes even before the creation of Pakistan.

The Portuguese occupied Muscat for a 140-year period (1508–1648), arriving a decade after Vasco da Gama discovered the seaway to India due to thier relations with Safavid Empire.

the Portuguese did not give up hope of regaining control of the coast of Oman. They continued reinforcing their position in Kang, and even started negotiating with the Persians to establish a trading post in the island of Hengam.


Omanis did not stop at ousting the Portuguese from their coasts, as they launched a series land and sea assaults targeting Portuguese positions in the Indian Ocean. This included Bombay in 1661 AD (1072 AH), Dhio in November 1668 AD (Rajab 1079 AH), in January 1676 AD (Shawwal 1086 AH), and in 1670 AD (1081 AH), and Bassein in 1674 AD (1085 AH).

The Inhabitants of Zanzibar, linked to the Omanis by religion and national characteristics, had pleaded to Imam Sultan bin Seif to liberate them from Portuguese enslavement, but despite Imam Sultan bin Seif’s victories in the waters of Zanzibar, the Portuguese presence there endured until the strong Omani Navy was built by his son, Imam Seif bin Sultan. This established Omani control of the entire East African coast, from Mombasa to Kiluh. The Omanis brought under their control Pemba, Zanzibar, Patta, and Kiluh; Mozambique was the only land that resisted the Arab Omani fleet, and remained in the hands of the Portuguese until the twentieth century AD.


The Ottomans drove out the Portuguese about a century later (1741).

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Actually they are Indian tribes even before the creation of Pakistan.

The Portuguese occupied Muscat for a 140-year period (1508–1648), arriving a decade after Vasco da Gama discovered the seaway to India due to thier relations with Safavid Empire.

the Portuguese did not give up hope of regaining control of the coast of Oman. They continued reinforcing their position in Kang, and even started negotiating with the Persians to establish a trading post in the island of Hengam.


Omanis did not stop at ousting the Portuguese from their coasts, as they launched a series land and sea assaults targeting Portuguese positions in the Indian Ocean. This included Bombay in 1661 AD (1072 AH), Dhio in November 1668 AD (Rajab 1079 AH), in January 1676 AD (Shawwal 1086 AH), and in 1670 AD (1081 AH), and Bassein in 1674 AD (1085 AH).

The Inhabitants of Zanzibar, linked to the Omanis by religion and national characteristics, had pleaded to Imam Sultan bin Seif to liberate them from Portuguese enslavement, but despite Imam Sultan bin Seif’s victories in the waters of Zanzibar, the Portuguese presence there endured until the strong Omani Navy was built by his son, Imam Seif bin Sultan. This established Omani control of the entire East African coast, from Mombasa to Kiluh. The Omanis brought under their control Pemba, Zanzibar, Patta, and Kiluh; Mozambique was the only land that resisted the Arab Omani fleet, and remained in the hands of the Portuguese until the twentieth century AD.


The Ottomans drove out the Portuguese about a century later (1741).

Which Indian tribes? Biharis ?

We Baloch are iranic people of Pak,Iran,Afghanistan and also settled in CARS and GCC.

Actually they are Indian tribes even before the creation of Pakistan.

The Portuguese occupied Muscat for a 140-year period (1508–1648), arriving a decade after Vasco da Gama discovered the seaway to India due to thier relations with Safavid Empire.

the Portuguese did not give up hope of regaining control of the coast of Oman. They continued reinforcing their position in Kang, and even started negotiating with the Persians to establish a trading post in the island of Hengam.


Omanis did not stop at ousting the Portuguese from their coasts, as they launched a series land and sea assaults targeting Portuguese positions in the Indian Ocean. This included Bombay in 1661 AD (1072 AH), Dhio in November 1668 AD (Rajab 1079 AH), in January 1676 AD (Shawwal 1086 AH), and in 1670 AD (1081 AH), and Bassein in 1674 AD (1085 AH).

The Inhabitants of Zanzibar, linked to the Omanis by religion and national characteristics, had pleaded to Imam Sultan bin Seif to liberate them from Portuguese enslavement, but despite Imam Sultan bin Seif’s victories in the waters of Zanzibar, the Portuguese presence there endured until the strong Omani Navy was built by his son, Imam Seif bin Sultan. This established Omani control of the entire East African coast, from Mombasa to Kiluh. The Omanis brought under their control Pemba, Zanzibar, Patta, and Kiluh; Mozambique was the only land that resisted the Arab Omani fleet, and remained in the hands of the Portuguese until the twentieth century AD.


The Ottomans drove out the Portuguese about a century later (1741).

And portugese were fought by Baloch soldiers hired by the Sultan of Oman..

Infact Baloch soldiers were sent even t Africa to fight them...


You indians should stop inventing history with BS stories.

 

[Hindustani78]

Which Indian tribes? Biharis ?

We Baloch are iranic people of Pak,Iran,Afghanistan and also settled in CARS and GCC.




And portugese were fought by Baloch soldiers hired by the Sultan of Oman..

Infact Baloch soldiers were sent even t Africa to fight them...


You indians should stop inventing history with BS stories.

These tribes are listed as tribes of Indus Valley Civilization and you even know the meaning of Aryan, Naqsh-e Rustam

After the disastrous invasion of Mongols, in the 1200s, migrated Seleciuds and Mongolian tribes adopted the Persian customs and even language. In the 1300s, the Ilkhanids, a dynasty founded by the "Genghis Khan's" grandson, Holagu Khan, had been an influential factor in Persia.

Towards the end of 14th century, Timur (Tamerlane) claimed to be descent from Genghis Khan's family. The disturbed conditions in Mongol Transoxania gave him in the town of Kish the chance to build up a kingdom in Central Asia. He entered Iran in 1380 and in 1393 reduced the Jalayirids power and domination after taking their capital, Baghdad.

the Safavids, appeared among people of Seleciuds. The Safavid order survived the invasion of Timur to that part of the Iran in the late 13th century. By 1500 the Safavids had adopted the Islam .

In 1507 Portuguese invaded Persian Gulf and captured Hormuz Island. It became a naval base and trade outpost, which lasted more than a hundred years. Shah Esma'il with the lack of navy reluctantly accepted this European presence. In the mean time Safavids extended their rule by capturing Baghdad and Iraq in 1508.

The Ottoman sultan, Bayezid II, in his message congratulated Shah Esma'il on his victories and advised him to stop destroying the graves and mosques of Muslims.

The new sultan in Constantinople after 1512, Sultan Selim, warred against Safavids under his rule.

Shah Esma'il's descendants Shah Tahmasp I (1524-1576), Shah Esma'il II (1576-1577) and Shah Mohammad (1577-1587), ruling in succession, recovered some of the original Safavid confidence and expanded in the opposite direction of the Ottomans, as far as Transoxiana. Safavid shahs tightened their controls over Iran; each district had its own Safavid leader, a "Qezelbash" chief, answerable to the shah.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

These tribes are listed as tribes of Indus Valley Civilization and you even know the meaning of Aryan, Naqsh-e Rustam

So Iranic = indian?

Baloch are mentioned in several ancient Iranian texts as Iranic people’s along with our closest cousins thr Kurds.. does that mean we are indian?

After the disastrous invasion of Mongols, in the 1200s, migrated Seleciuds and Mongolian tribes adopted the Persian customs and even language. In the 1300s, the Ilkhanids, a dynasty founded by the "Genghis Khan's" grandson, Holagu Khan, had been an influential factor in Persia.

Towards the end of 14th century, Timur (Tamerlane) claimed to be descent from Genghis Khan's family. The disturbed conditions in Mongol Transoxania gave him in the town of Kish the chance to build up a kingdom in Central Asia. He entered Iran in 1380 and in 1393 reduced the Jalayirids power and domination after taking their capital, Baghdad.

the Safavids, appeared among people of Seleciuds. The Safavid order survived the invasion of Timur to that part of the Iran in the late 13th century. By 1500 the Safavids had adopted the Islam .

In 1507 Portuguese invaded Persian Gulf and captured Hormuz Island. It became a naval base and trade outpost, which lasted more than a hundred years. Shah Esma'il with the lack of navy reluctantly accepted this European presence. In the mean time Safavids extended their rule by capturing Baghdad and Iraq in 1508.

The Ottoman sultan, Bayezid II, in his message congratulated Shah Esma'il on his victories and advised him to stop destroying the graves and mosques of Muslims.

The new sultan in Constantinople after 1512, Sultan Selim, warred against Safavids under his rule.

Shah Esma'il's descendants Shah Tahmasp I (1524-1576), Shah Esma'il II (1576-1577) and Shah Mohammad (1577-1587), ruling in succession, recovered some of the original Safavid confidence and expanded in the opposite direction of the Ottomans, as far as Transoxiana. Safavid shahs tightened their controls over Iran; each district had its own Safavid leader, a "Qezelbash" chief, answerable to the shah.

None of which has anything to do with indians.

These tribes are listed as tribes of Indus Valley Civilization and you even know the meaning of Aryan, Naqsh-e Rustam

After the disastrous invasion of Mongols, in the 1200s, migrated Seleciuds and Mongolian tribes adopted the Persian customs and even language. In the 1300s, the Ilkhanids, a dynasty founded by the "Genghis Khan's" grandson, Holagu Khan, had been an influential factor in Persia.

Towards the end of 14th century, Timur (Tamerlane) claimed to be descent from Genghis Khan's family. The disturbed conditions in Mongol Transoxania gave him in the town of Kish the chance to build up a kingdom in Central Asia. He entered Iran in 1380 and in 1393 reduced the Jalayirids power and domination after taking their capital, Baghdad.

the Safavids, appeared among people of Seleciuds. The Safavid order survived the invasion of Timur to that part of the Iran in the late 13th century. By 1500 the Safavids had adopted the Islam .

In 1507 Portuguese invaded Persian Gulf and captured Hormuz Island. It became a naval base and trade outpost, which lasted more than a hundred years. Shah Esma'il with the lack of navy reluctantly accepted this European presence. In the mean time Safavids extended their rule by capturing Baghdad and Iraq in 1508.

The Ottoman sultan, Bayezid II, in his message congratulated Shah Esma'il on his victories and advised him to stop destroying the graves and mosques of Muslims.

The new sultan in Constantinople after 1512, Sultan Selim, warred against Safavids under his rule.

Shah Esma'il's descendants Shah Tahmasp I (1524-1576), Shah Esma'il II (1576-1577) and Shah Mohammad (1577-1587), ruling in succession, recovered some of the original Safavid confidence and expanded in the opposite direction of the Ottomans, as far as Transoxiana. Safavid shahs tightened their controls over Iran; each district had its own Safavid leader, a "Qezelbash" chief, answerable to the shah.

Baloch who were sent to fight Europeans in Africa by Oman and Iranian forces;

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-east-african-baloch.488110/

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Oman and India have always had good relations.

Probably have the most military interations with them than anyone else in the M.E.

 

[The SC]

Why would Gangadesh need such a maintenance to be done in Oman since it has ample facilities in its country. Any way shame on the vassal state of Oman.

Because India participates in anti-piracy operations in the Area.. that is the reason..

 

[Ocean]

lols what does coward betraying bastard kings of Arab has anything to do with Ummah?

Yaar unki public bhi racist hee hai ,arabs dont have lot of respect for pakistanis they dont see us anything beyond mercenary soldeirs of anpoor country whose job is to protect arabs for small cash thrown at them. Yehi inki majority ki soch hai , yaqeen karo arabs khud apas may aik doosray say itni nafrat kartay hain and if u see egyptian ,syrian arabs tau inkay ikhlaq itnay kharab hain itnay kharab hain aksar pakistani jin ko inkay saath kaam karna parta hai woh pakistan un egyptians syrians wagairah ko kehtay hee harami hain. Lmao

 

[newb3e]

Yaar unki public bhi racist hee hai ,arabs dont have lot of respect for pakistanis they dont see us anything beyond mercenary soldeirs of anpoor country whose job is to protect arabs for small cash thrown at them. Yehi inki majority ki soch hai , yaqeen karo arabs khud apas may aik doosray say itni nafrat kartay hain and if u see egyptian ,syrian arabs tau inkay ikhlaq itnay kharab hain itnay kharab hain aksar pakistani jin ko inkay saath kaam karna parta hai woh pakistan un egyptians syrians wagairah ko kehtay hee harami hain. Lmao

but still nothing to do with ummah!!! yahan pata nai kitnay logon na nabi (SAW) ka akhri khubta sunna hai ya un ki serat ko purha hai agar arabs racist hain toh fine the concept of ummah has nothing to do with arab it is concept of Islam if we all become practicing sunnah following Muslims there wont be any discrimination and we will become one!!

and mera perception arabs keh liye yehi tha they are racist etc but i had pleasure of meeting some arabs emaratis the rich ones and the normal ones and talked to them and they are not racist or arrogant!

not everyone is same aur Nabi (SAW) ki hadith hain keh daulat meri ummat ko gumrah kar day ge! aur ajj hum gumrah hain!

bas hum sah ko aik acha musalman banana hai bakki ya nuclear shuclear kuch nai ukhartay hamaray!

dont forget 300 sahabas and 1000 qureishi! ghazwa e badr!