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India Disapproves Pakistan Russia Military Cooperation

Although source is poor but its foreseeable that new alliances are beings made and this process is going on since the time of musharif, coming years will be interesting if we don't have a war
 
Of course we care. Any foreign government except fellow outcasts such as North Korea engaging with Pakistan is a serious concern. Not because anything much will come out of it - look at what decades of relations with Saudi, US and China have gotten Pakistan. But because it delays the policy of complete isolation.

Pakistanis are quite happy as long as only 2-3 countries in the world are engaging them - they will pretend that means they are not isolated. That pretense has to end and Pakistan needs to face up to the consequences of incubating terrorism and nuclear proliferation, thereby destabilizing all of South Asia.

Note: I am not even crediting Pakistan to have destabilized the entire world, which is actually true. People with low self-esteem tend to take pride even in notoriety.


On the contrary, Pakistan has gained a lot. From CPEC right down to the fact that Pakistan is the ONLY Muslim nuclear weapons state with the ability to produce Fusion bombs, H-bombs and thermonuclear weapons:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

Our international relations have also helped Pakistan become the ONLY nation in the history of mankind to fend off an enemy county that is at least 7× bigger than us and has unlimited access to the world's most advanced weapons systems.

Your comment suggesting that Pakistan has destabilized the entire planet??????????........lol
:rofl::rofl::rofl::omghaha:

That is tacit admission that Pakistan is either a superpower or you are one of those crazy indians that thinks Pakistan caused the war in Syria.
 
Do you have any other source than Pakistani newspaper ?
 
FULL RUSSIAN AND ‘HALF-INDIAN’

Alexander Kadakin is a diplomat with a difference. Besides being a veteran, he has absorbed everything Indian during his long stint in this country, beginning as a young trainee and leading up to his appointment as Russia’s Ambassador

When he landed a job as a junior diplomat in the Russian embassy in New Delhi as a 20-something, Mr Alexander M Kadakin must not have imagined that the embassy would become his home for the next nearly four decades, with only a few intermissions, and that he would eventually head it as the Ambassador. During this period, he witnessed the glory of the Soviet era; saw the disintegration of the only superpower after the US before his eyes; and watched the creation of a new Russia, now much reduced in size and changed in shape but still formidable in geo-politics.

And yes, along the way he learnt Hindi, dared to hum quite a few classic Bollywood songs of the fifties rather effortlessly, and mastered the art of understanding the machinations of Lutyens’ Delhi. Mr Kadakin was the continuity in the midst of cataclysmic changes his country underwent.

With all this, it’s no surprise that he bats for India as much as he does for Russia. If millions of Indians sang “Sar pe lal topee rusee, phir bhi dil hai Hindustani”, his heart, which he proudly says is “half-Indian”, must have swelled with pride at the India-Russia hyphenation. Such is his affection that, during the annual Orthodox Christmas party at the Russian embassy in January, he dressed up in a sherwani and safaa.

Now, in his sixties, Mr Kadakin has seen it all and met every political person of importance in India, from Swaran Singh to Indira Gandhi to Rajiv Gandhi to Atal Bihari Vajpayee to Narendra Modi, striking deep bonds with many of them. His love for Hindi films saw him interact with, naturally, Raj Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor and other glittering personalities. All of this did not stop him from honing his diplomatic skills which, in the changing geo-political scenario, has ensured that the traditional India-Russia friendship remained on a firm footing.

“I came here on my first posting in August 1971 as a probationer. This is my fourth posting and the second as Ambassador. In between, I had four years of interludes in Nepal and Sweden. But all through, even when I was there, I was closely connected with India. When in Russia, I was interpreting into Hindi for any summit or visit by the leader of the country and was an advisor and an expert of the delegation”, Mr Kadakin smilingly says.

He has been a full rank Ambassador since 1994. This makes him one of the most senior Ambassadors in his circle. The first posting as an Ambassador to India was from 1999 to 2004, and the second one began in 2009. Here, he shares his views on India-Russia “bonding”, strategic partnership, and areas that need attention.

Bilateral relationship: Terming Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Moscow last year as “highly satisfying”, Mr Kadakin feels that quick decision-making ability of the Prime Minister deserves credit. “The results have exceeded all our expectations. The one-on-one meeting between Mr Modi and President Vladimir Putin showed good chemistry in the personal relationship. Both are precise gentlemen who do not waste time on idle talk, are practical and result-oriented.”

India-Russia strategic partnership: Away from public glare, a lot of movement is happening in civil nuclear, defence and strategic areas. In the civil nuclear sector, Russia is handling six plants in Kudankulam and will add six more in Andhra Pradesh. “We will now be setting up another six plants of the same capacity but of advanced version in Andhra Pradesh”, he informs. Comparing Russia’s civil nuclear cooperation with other countries, Mr Kadakin takes pride in saying that while not even a nail has been driven in any of the projects by other countries, Russia was moving fast in its projects. “Issues like nuclear liability, insurance or fuel tracking have not prevented Russia from going ahead on its civil nuclear projects”, he points out.

In the defence and security sector, Mr Kadakin mentions talks on the purchase of S-400 Russian missiles for Indian air defence, leasing another nuclear submarine from Russia, the sale of Kamov Ka 226 and Mi-35 helicopters, and service centres for the Sukhoi fleet in India. “We do not feel jealous when India acquires military hardware from other countries for its strategic needs. India is a superpower in the making and we have worked with the country in military, industry and scientific areas to see it as strong as it is today. Name a country which would rent a nuclear submarine to India; name another country which would refurbish and reconstruct an aircraft carrier for modern-day needs, he challenges.

India-Pakistan-Russia issue: On Russia’s decision to sell Russia four Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan, Mr Kadakin says India’s needn’t worry. Russia will not take even “one millimetre or an inch of action” that is detrimental to its “old and strategic partnership” with India.

He adds, “Pakistan has conflicting forces. While the civilian side wants good relations with India, the ISI and the Pakistan Army do not want peaceful relations with India. Whenever talks are scheduled, there is a terror attack. It has become a pattern. Russia is working with Pakistan to prevent cross-border terror attacks on India. We have tried to influence Pakistan to check trans-border terrorism and have spent a lot of energy in this direction. We want Pakistan to play a more proactive role in fighting terrorism”, he states.

India-China: Russia is happy with India’s improved relations with China. “It took us 40 years to sort out our border issue with China. One needs a lot of patience with the Chinese. It is good that both India and China have decided not to allow territorial problems to come in the way and improve relations in other areas. We bless the talks”, Mr Kadakin happily remarks.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/oped/full-russian-and-half-indian.html
 
FULL RUSSIAN AND ‘HALF-INDIAN’

Alexander Kadakin is a diplomat with a difference. Besides being a veteran, he has absorbed everything Indian during his long stint in this country, beginning as a young trainee and leading up to his appointment as Russia’s Ambassador

When he landed a job as a junior diplomat in the Russian embassy in New Delhi as a 20-something, Mr Alexander M Kadakin must not have imagined that the embassy would become his home for the next nearly four decades, with only a few intermissions, and that he would eventually head it as the Ambassador. During this period, he witnessed the glory of the Soviet era; saw the disintegration of the only superpower after the US before his eyes; and watched the creation of a new Russia, now much reduced in size and changed in shape but still formidable in geo-politics.

And yes, along the way he learnt Hindi, dared to hum quite a few classic Bollywood songs of the fifties rather effortlessly, and mastered the art of understanding the machinations of Lutyens’ Delhi. Mr Kadakin was the continuity in the midst of cataclysmic changes his country underwent.

With all this, it’s no surprise that he bats for India as much as he does for Russia. If millions of Indians sang “Sar pe lal topee rusee, phir bhi dil hai Hindustani”, his heart, which he proudly says is “half-Indian”, must have swelled with pride at the India-Russia hyphenation. Such is his affection that, during the annual Orthodox Christmas party at the Russian embassy in January, he dressed up in a sherwani and safaa.

Now, in his sixties, Mr Kadakin has seen it all and met every political person of importance in India, from Swaran Singh to Indira Gandhi to Rajiv Gandhi to Atal Bihari Vajpayee to Narendra Modi, striking deep bonds with many of them. His love for Hindi films saw him interact with, naturally, Raj Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor and other glittering personalities. All of this did not stop him from honing his diplomatic skills which, in the changing geo-political scenario, has ensured that the traditional India-Russia friendship remained on a firm footing.

“I came here on my first posting in August 1971 as a probationer. This is my fourth posting and the second as Ambassador. In between, I had four years of interludes in Nepal and Sweden. But all through, even when I was there, I was closely connected with India. When in Russia, I was interpreting into Hindi for any summit or visit by the leader of the country and was an advisor and an expert of the delegation”, Mr Kadakin smilingly says.

He has been a full rank Ambassador since 1994. This makes him one of the most senior Ambassadors in his circle. The first posting as an Ambassador to India was from 1999 to 2004, and the second one began in 2009. Here, he shares his views on India-Russia “bonding”, strategic partnership, and areas that need attention.

Bilateral relationship: Terming Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Moscow last year as “highly satisfying”, Mr Kadakin feels that quick decision-making ability of the Prime Minister deserves credit. “The results have exceeded all our expectations. The one-on-one meeting between Mr Modi and President Vladimir Putin showed good chemistry in the personal relationship. Both are precise gentlemen who do not waste time on idle talk, are practical and result-oriented.”

India-Russia strategic partnership: Away from public glare, a lot of movement is happening in civil nuclear, defence and strategic areas. In the civil nuclear sector, Russia is handling six plants in Kudankulam and will add six more in Andhra Pradesh. “We will now be setting up another six plants of the same capacity but of advanced version in Andhra Pradesh”, he informs. Comparing Russia’s civil nuclear cooperation with other countries, Mr Kadakin takes pride in saying that while not even a nail has been driven in any of the projects by other countries, Russia was moving fast in its projects. “Issues like nuclear liability, insurance or fuel tracking have not prevented Russia from going ahead on its civil nuclear projects”, he points out.

In the defence and security sector, Mr Kadakin mentions talks on the purchase of S-400 Russian missiles for Indian air defence, leasing another nuclear submarine from Russia, the sale of Kamov Ka 226 and Mi-35 helicopters, and service centres for the Sukhoi fleet in India. “We do not feel jealous when India acquires military hardware from other countries for its strategic needs. India is a superpower in the making and we have worked with the country in military, industry and scientific areas to see it as strong as it is today. Name a country which would rent a nuclear submarine to India; name another country which would refurbish and reconstruct an aircraft carrier for modern-day needs, he challenges.

India-Pakistan-Russia issue: On Russia’s decision to sell Russia four Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan, Mr Kadakin says India’s needn’t worry. Russia will not take even “one millimetre or an inch of action” that is detrimental to its “old and strategic partnership” with India.

He adds, “Pakistan has conflicting forces. While the civilian side wants good relations with India, the ISI and the Pakistan Army do not want peaceful relations with India. Whenever talks are scheduled, there is a terror attack. It has become a pattern. Russia is working with Pakistan to prevent cross-border terror attacks on India. We have tried to influence Pakistan to check trans-border terrorism and have spent a lot of energy in this direction. We want Pakistan to play a more proactive role in fighting terrorism”, he states.

India-China: Russia is happy with India’s improved relations with China. “It took us 40 years to sort out our border issue with China. One needs a lot of patience with the Chinese. It is good that both India and China have decided not to allow territorial problems to come in the way and improve relations in other areas. We bless the talks”, Mr Kadakin happily remarks.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/oped/full-russian-and-half-indian.html


Do you have this from any Non-Indian source?
 
Of course we care. Any foreign government except fellow outcasts such as North Korea engaging with Pakistan is a serious concern. Not because anything much will come out of it - look at what decades of relations with Saudi, US and China have gotten Pakistan. But because it delays the policy of complete isolation.

Pakistanis are quite happy as long as only 2-3 countries in the world are engaging them - they will pretend that means they are not isolated. That pretense has to end and Pakistan needs to face up to the consequences of incubating terrorism and nuclear proliferation, thereby destabilizing all of South Asia.

Note: I am not even crediting Pakistan to have destabilized the entire world, which is actually true. People with low self-esteem tend to take pride even in notoriety.
But who really cares what the heck Indians think or feel. It's all the national interests of nations that bring them closer. Russian and Pakistani national interests are widely overlapping in light of new strategic realities at regional and global levels. Indian crying to Putin will likely result in Putin offering a new lollypop to cry babies. Nothing more than that. The new strategic groupings are in alignment with Pak interests. That doesn't mean we turn against the US. We rather need to lure US investment in CPEC related projects. After all CPEC is about development and prosperity and offers huge opportunities for excellent investment. Indian opposition to the CPEC project is a negative approach (that suits the pessimist Indian psyche and sick Indian mentality) that aims at putting a brake on the wheel of progress, development and prosperity. As before, Indians will get nothing but shame and disappointment from their dirty game.

FULL RUSSIAN AND ‘HALF-INDIAN’

Alexander Kadakin is a diplomat with a difference. Besides being a veteran, he has absorbed everything Indian during his long stint in this country, beginning as a young trainee and leading up to his appointment as Russia’s Ambassador

When he landed a job as a junior diplomat in the Russian embassy in New Delhi as a 20-something, Mr Alexander M Kadakin must not have imagined that the embassy would become his home for the next nearly four decades, with only a few intermissions, and that he would eventually head it as the Ambassador. During this period, he witnessed the glory of the Soviet era; saw the disintegration of the only superpower after the US before his eyes; and watched the creation of a new Russia, now much reduced in size and changed in shape but still formidable in geo-politics.

And yes, along the way he learnt Hindi, dared to hum quite a few classic Bollywood songs of the fifties rather effortlessly, and mastered the art of understanding the machinations of Lutyens’ Delhi. Mr Kadakin was the continuity in the midst of cataclysmic changes his country underwent.

With all this, it’s no surprise that he bats for India as much as he does for Russia. If millions of Indians sang “Sar pe lal topee rusee, phir bhi dil hai Hindustani”, his heart, which he proudly says is “half-Indian”, must have swelled with pride at the India-Russia hyphenation. Such is his affection that, during the annual Orthodox Christmas party at the Russian embassy in January, he dressed up in a sherwani and safaa.

Now, in his sixties, Mr Kadakin has seen it all and met every political person of importance in India, from Swaran Singh to Indira Gandhi to Rajiv Gandhi to Atal Bihari Vajpayee to Narendra Modi, striking deep bonds with many of them. His love for Hindi films saw him interact with, naturally, Raj Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor and other glittering personalities. All of this did not stop him from honing his diplomatic skills which, in the changing geo-political scenario, has ensured that the traditional India-Russia friendship remained on a firm footing.

“I came here on my first posting in August 1971 as a probationer. This is my fourth posting and the second as Ambassador. In between, I had four years of interludes in Nepal and Sweden. But all through, even when I was there, I was closely connected with India. When in Russia, I was interpreting into Hindi for any summit or visit by the leader of the country and was an advisor and an expert of the delegation”, Mr Kadakin smilingly says.

He has been a full rank Ambassador since 1994. This makes him one of the most senior Ambassadors in his circle. The first posting as an Ambassador to India was from 1999 to 2004, and the second one began in 2009. Here, he shares his views on India-Russia “bonding”, strategic partnership, and areas that need attention.

Bilateral relationship: Terming Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Moscow last year as “highly satisfying”, Mr Kadakin feels that quick decision-making ability of the Prime Minister deserves credit. “The results have exceeded all our expectations. The one-on-one meeting between Mr Modi and President Vladimir Putin showed good chemistry in the personal relationship. Both are precise gentlemen who do not waste time on idle talk, are practical and result-oriented.”

India-Russia strategic partnership: Away from public glare, a lot of movement is happening in civil nuclear, defence and strategic areas. In the civil nuclear sector, Russia is handling six plants in Kudankulam and will add six more in Andhra Pradesh. “We will now be setting up another six plants of the same capacity but of advanced version in Andhra Pradesh”, he informs. Comparing Russia’s civil nuclear cooperation with other countries, Mr Kadakin takes pride in saying that while not even a nail has been driven in any of the projects by other countries, Russia was moving fast in its projects. “Issues like nuclear liability, insurance or fuel tracking have not prevented Russia from going ahead on its civil nuclear projects”, he points out.

In the defence and security sector, Mr Kadakin mentions talks on the purchase of S-400 Russian missiles for Indian air defence, leasing another nuclear submarine from Russia, the sale of Kamov Ka 226 and Mi-35 helicopters, and service centres for the Sukhoi fleet in India. “We do not feel jealous when India acquires military hardware from other countries for its strategic needs. India is a superpower in the making and we have worked with the country in military, industry and scientific areas to see it as strong as it is today. Name a country which would rent a nuclear submarine to India; name another country which would refurbish and reconstruct an aircraft carrier for modern-day needs, he challenges.

India-Pakistan-Russia issue: On Russia’s decision to sell Russia four Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan, Mr Kadakin says India’s needn’t worry. Russia will not take even “one millimetre or an inch of action” that is detrimental to its “old and strategic partnership” with India.

He adds, “Pakistan has conflicting forces. While the civilian side wants good relations with India, the ISI and the Pakistan Army do not want peaceful relations with India. Whenever talks are scheduled, there is a terror attack. It has become a pattern. Russia is working with Pakistan to prevent cross-border terror attacks on India. We have tried to influence Pakistan to check trans-border terrorism and have spent a lot of energy in this direction. We want Pakistan to play a more proactive role in fighting terrorism”, he states.

India-China: Russia is happy with India’s improved relations with China. “It took us 40 years to sort out our border issue with China. One needs a lot of patience with the Chinese. It is good that both India and China have decided not to allow territorial problems to come in the way and improve relations in other areas. We bless the talks”, Mr Kadakin happily remarks.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/oped/full-russian-and-half-indian.html
"On Russia’s decision to sell Russia four Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan, Mr Kadakin says India’s needn’t worry."
Then take his words at the face value and stop crying like babies. Seems these words carry no consolation for Indians. No surprise. Actions speak louder than empty talk.
 
Of course we care. Any foreign government except fellow outcasts such as North Korea engaging with Pakistan is a serious concern. Not because anything much will come out of it - look at what decades of relations with Saudi, US and China have gotten Pakistan. But because it delays the policy of complete isolation.

Pakistanis are quite happy as long as only 2-3 countries in the world are engaging them - they will pretend that means they are not isolated. That pretense has to end and Pakistan needs to face up to the consequences of incubating terrorism and nuclear proliferation, thereby destabilizing all of South Asia.

Note: I am not even crediting Pakistan to have destabilized the entire world, which is actually true. People with low self-esteem tend to take pride even in notoriety.

with all the Isolation Pakistan can get a veto for anything you bring against Pakistan, imagine if we had more than 2 friends. name one country who would vouch for India in that manners, heck not one country came out officially to your cry baby noises after Uri (BD and Afghanistan dont country as countries). all the crap your types plays on Indian TV 24/7 that doesnt mean its true, read/watch outside India media to get the real world views
 
That is exactly as I mentioned at the end. Those with low self-opinion are happy even if someone credits them with something infamous, as long as it is noteworthy.



You cannot even write the proper English equivalent of whatever pigdin Urdu/Punjabi mixture that you speak. Of no value.


So you agree that Pakistan started the war in Syria........lol........ :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Speaking of noteworthy, it is not my race or nation that has at least 33% of the world's most severely malnourished and extreme poor. It's yours:


http://m.indiatimes.com/news/india/...tarving-population-lives-in-india-261267.html
 
As relation between Russia and US reached confrontational stage (over Syria), Russia has no reason to loose strategically important friend/partnership with Pakistan. For Central Asian power dynamics (military/security) , Pakistan is key state.

In fact current situation presents Pakistan unique opportunity to engage Russians in more infrastructure, energy and power generation project that will make the engagement multi dimensional.
 
Just because you say so? And evidenced by what exactly? Just ONE joint military exercise out of several hundred this year. Even countries that have tense relations maintain military relations with each other in case you don't know.

Russia has a hardline view on terrorism, whereas Pakistan is a net exporter of the same, so no overlapping national interests really. Expect a long Russian pole up the nether regions in the near future. Wishful desperation does not make friendships. If you are friendless, it does not mean that the first person who even talks to you is your friend.


TBH as long as Pakistan & Russia are not enemies, most Pakistanis could not care less about our relationship with them. Apart from Pakistan's relationship with China & Turkey, no other international relation matters to us.
 
Of course we care. Any foreign government except fellow outcasts such as North Korea engaging with Pakistan is a serious concern. Not because anything much will come out of it - look at what decades of relations with Saudi, US and China have gotten Pakistan. But because it delays the policy of complete isolation.

Pakistanis are quite happy as long as only 2-3 countries in the world are engaging them - they will pretend that means they are not isolated. That pretense has to end and Pakistan needs to face up to the consequences of incubating terrorism and nuclear proliferation, thereby destabilizing all of South Asia.

Note: I am not even crediting Pakistan to have destabilized the entire world, which is actually true. People with low self-esteem tend to take pride even in notoriety.
Nobody cares for you... your disgraceful acts and human rights violations are not acceptable to the world.
 
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