India creating problems in anti-terror war:Pakistan's Ambassador to Afghanistan Sadiq

[Khan007]

India creating problems in anti-terror war: Sadiq

India creating problems in anti-terror war: Sadiq​

KABUL: Pakistan’s ambassador in Afghanistan Muhammed Sadiq Friday said India is creating problems in war against terrorism instead of facilitating it.

In an interview here, he said India should support the efforts put up by Pakistan against terrorism; but, the country is creating problems for Pakistan by spurring issues including water.

India is buttressing the terrorists and their activities instead of helping Pakistan and is providing weapons in Balochistan and Waziristan, he added.

Sadiq said India is on one hand providing arms and ammunitions to Taliban and on the other hand, it is pressuring Pakistan to put an end to terrorism.

India is not interested in Pakistan’s war against terrorism; this fact is vindicated by the fact that India supplies weapons to Taliban in Waziristan and into Balochistan, the Pakistan’s envoy maintained adding this is a misplaced policy and its bad effects will have to be suffered by not only Pakistan but India as well.

Sadiq asid India is peddling propaganda against Pakistan in Afghanistan; accordingly, the Pakistanis are not in good books of some in the establishment here, adding this is not the policy of Hamid Karzai; rather this is the policy of countries and their agents spending huge amounts of money in propaganda war against Pakistan.

Everyone knows who are these people, he added.

The most of the captured suicide bombers in Pakistan were Afghan nationals; the people beheading the Pakistani security personnel were found to be the same Afghan nationals, he asserted adding the man who cut the throats of 11 security men was an Afghan suicide bomber.

It is essential that Pak-Afghan border should be put under strict vigil, so that it could only legally be crossed, he strongly advised.​

 

[KSRaj]

India creating problems in anti-terror war: Sadiq

India creating problems in anti-terror war: Sadiq​

KABUL: Pakistan’s ambassador in Afghanistan Muhammed Sadiq Friday said India is creating problems in war against terrorism instead of facilitating it.

In an interview here, he said India should support the efforts put up by Pakistan against terrorism; but, the country is creating problems for Pakistan by spurring issues including water.

India is buttressing the terrorists and their activities instead of helping Pakistan and is providing weapons in Balochistan and Waziristan, he added.

Sadiq said India is on one hand providing arms and ammunitions to Taliban and on the other hand, it is pressuring Pakistan to put an end to terrorism.

India is not interested in Pakistan’s war against terrorism; this fact is vindicated by the fact that India supplies weapons to Taliban in Waziristan and into Balochistan, the Pakistan’s envoy maintained adding this is a misplaced policy and its bad effects will have to be suffered by not only Pakistan but India as well.

Sadiq asid India is peddling propaganda against Pakistan in Afghanistan; accordingly, the Pakistanis are not in good books of some in the establishment here, adding this is not the policy of Hamid Karzai; rather this is the policy of countries and their agents spending huge amounts of money in propaganda war against Pakistan.

Everyone knows who are these people, he added.

The most of the captured suicide bombers in Pakistan were Afghan nationals; the people beheading the Pakistani security personnel were found to be the same Afghan nationals, he asserted adding the man who cut the throats of 11 security men was an Afghan suicide bomber.

It is essential that Pak-Afghan border should be put under strict vigil, so that it could only legally be crossed, he strongly advised.​

Luckily you are in UK. If you were in Pakistan, there would be a very good chance of you being indicted for leaking a state secret. As you are obviously not aware of, the Pakistan government for some valid reason has decided to keep India's involvements in terror activities as a state secret and is trying its level best to make sure that no proofs of this involvement reaches any other countries. Probably because Pakistan and India have now reached a new level of love and friendship due to which the Pakistan establishment is trying its level best to make sure that nothing is done that might embarass its new friend & ally, India.

My suggestion, be careful during your next trip to Pakistan as one cannot predict what can happen during this new era of bonhomie / baaichara etc.

 

[SMC]

You have clearly not read the reason put forward as to why the proof is not being made public. I know for a fact that the proof exists - from insider army and ISI sources.

 

[Hulk]

You have clearly not read the reason put forward as to why the proof is not being made public. I know for a fact that the proof exists - from insider army and ISI sources.

There cannot be any reason to justify concealing of proofs.

 

[Khan007]

Luckily you are in UK. If you were in Pakistan, there would be a very good chance of you being indicted for leaking a state secret. As you are obviously not aware of, the Pakistan government for some valid reason has decided to keep India's involvements in terror activities as a state secret and is trying its level best to make sure that no proofs of this involvement reaches any other countries. Probably because Pakistan and India have now reached a new level of love and friendship due to which the Pakistan establishment is trying its level best to make sure that nothing is done that might embarass its new friend & ally, India.

My suggestion, be careful during your next trip to Pakistan as one cannot predict what can happen during this new era of bonhomie / baaichara etc.

I think you are living in some sort of a dream. This is no state secret but a reality which you Indians must accept.We were never allies of India and will never become one in the future. You tell us to stop terrorism but can I ask you one question ? Why don't you stop terrorism in your own country in the form of RSS/Shiv Sena/Naxalites/Bajrang Dal/Modi and even distrupting peace in neighbouring countries. Indian Hegemony is the biggest threat in South Asia. You people through your media portray 'Incredible India' to the world but never show the real India which is even more worse than African countries where Muslims, Sikhs and even Christians are subjected to violent and brutal killings. The world's largest democracy has the world's largest separatist movements in process because of Hindu Hegemony and Terrorism.

 

[Iggy]

I think you are living in some sort of a dream. This is no state secret but a reality which you Indians must accept.We were never allies of India and will never become one in the future. You tell us to stop terrorism but can I ask you one question ? Why don't you stop terrorism in your own country in the form of RSS/Shiv Sena/Naxalites/Bajrang Dal/Modi and even distrupting peace in neighbouring countries. Indian Hegemony is the biggest threat in South Asia. You people through your media portray 'Incredible India' to the world but never show the real India which is even more worse than African countries where Muslims, Sikhs and even Christians are subjected to violent and brutal killings. The world's largest democracy has the world's largest separatist movements in process because of Hindu Hegemony and Terrorism.

Tell me the above posted so called terrorist carried out any terrorist attack in your country or any other neighboring country??Tell me any of these organizations banned by an international body??Incredible India was an ad campaign for tourist promotion..Yes we are having issues but we are solving it..and as for minorities dont tell me that minorities are oppressed in India..I myself is a minority and I have all kind of freedoms here like any other in my country.And we are not intend to get away from this country..There are lunatics in every religion..Even in Muslims and Christians..If you show a Gujarat massacre or a church burned by some Hindus i can show 100's of things that Hindus are friendly with Muslims and Christians..

 

[mokkaiboy]

I think you are living in some sort of a dream. This is no state secret but a reality which you Indians must accept.We were never allies of India and will never become one in the future. You tell us to stop terrorism but can I ask you one question ? Why don't you stop terrorism in your own country in the form of RSS/Shiv Sena/Naxalites/Bajrang Dal/Modi and even distrupting peace in neighbouring countries. Indian Hegemony is the biggest threat in South Asia. You people through your media portray 'Incredible India' to the world but never show the real India which is even more worse than African countries where Muslims, Sikhs and even Christians are subjected to violent and brutal killings. The world's largest democracy has the world's largest separatist movements in process because of Hindu Hegemony and Terrorism.

i feel so sorry for your illogical conclusions

1.according to you, if RSS and other organisations you have mentioned are involved in terrorism, you explain me in what way it is affecting your country and IS THAT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR PAKISTAN TO TERRORISE INDIA?

2.you are saying that india is terrorised by the list released by you, so even if pakistan does its bit on it can be justified . if it is the logic,, every country in world should terrrrorise pakistan first(look what happens daily in your country).

3.Incredible India is a marketing strategy to attract more tourists to india where we can show only positive aspects of whatever we possess, like how you people beg for aid at the international forum by acting as though you are a frontline state fighting war on terror(everyone knows where the aid goes). see we both are using the same startegy for different ends.

4.all communities are extemely well in india than what you dreaming of, you dont have to predict the other country based on what happens on your own.

 

[Khan007]

Tell me the above posted so called terrorist carried out any terrorist attack in your country or any other neighboring country??Tell me any of these organizations banned by an international body??Incredible India was an ad campaign for tourist promotion..Yes we are having issues but we are solving it..and as for minorities dont tell me that minorities are oppressed in India..I myself is a minority and I have all kind of freedoms here like any other in my country.And we are not intend to get away from this country..There are lunatics in every religion..Even in Muslims and Christians..If you show a Gujarat massacre or a church burned by some Hindus i can show 100's of things that Hindus are friendly with Muslims and Christians..

Most of these groups which I mentioned are or were part of the Indian government except for the Naxalites who now control almost half of Eastern India indirectly. The Opposition (BJP) is the political wing of RSS and wants to establish 'Akhand Bharat' (United India). Please see this facts based documentary made by a Hindu about Gujarat Riots and see for yourself about the motives of extremist hindus.( http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...9&ei=jT4QS7zMENjR-Qbv1YGLCA&q=final+solution#) These same extremists killed world famous leader Mahatma Gandhi because he wanted total peace between Pakistan and India. As for distrupting peace in neighbouring countries you must know that Tamil Tigers were created by Indian Intel agency RAW to destabilize Sri Lanka but with the help of Pakistan they were defeated after a 37 years long war. The first suicide bombings/attacks in South Asia were done by extremist hindus and I highly doubt that a true Muslim would do such a thing whether in Pakistan, India or any other place as Islam doesn't allow it. Islam also forbids suicide killings of any form. My friend you may think that I might be some sort of an anti-indian person but I am not one of them. I highly regard Indian people, have some Indian friends and I am also an avid fan of some of your actors. However some fanatics in you country (especially gov people) lead to mistrust among our people and take advantage of the situation and we cannot bear that and put aside our national interests.

 

[KSRaj]

I think you are living in some sort of a dream. This is no state secret but a reality which you Indians must accept.

Wakeup Khan007! Before you ask Indians to accept this "reality" of yours, try convincing your government about it.

We were never allies of India and will never become one in the future. You tell us to stop terrorism but can I ask you one question ? Why don't you stop terrorism in your own country in the form of RSS/Shiv Sena/Naxalites/Bajrang Dal/Modi and even distrupting peace in neighbouring countries. Indian Hegemony is the biggest threat in South Asia. You people through your media portray 'Incredible India' to the world but never show the real India which is even more worse than African countries where Muslims, Sikhs and even Christians are subjected to violent and brutal killings. The world's largest democracy has the world's largest separatist movements in process because of Hindu Hegemony and Terrorism.

Your rant, if you notice, does not have any relation to my post nor to the subject of the thread that you've created.

 

[Bhaarat]

I think you are living in some sort of a dream. This is no state secret but a reality which you Indians must accept.We were never allies of India and will never become one in the future. You tell us to stop terrorism but can I ask you one question ? Why don't you stop terrorism in your own country in the form of RSS/Shiv Sena/Naxalites/Bajrang Dal/Modi and even distrupting peace in neighbouring countries. Indian Hegemony is the biggest threat in South Asia. You people through your media portray 'Incredible India' to the world but never show the real India which is even more worse than African countries where Muslims, Sikhs and even Christians are subjected to violent and brutal killings. The world's largest democracy has the world's largest separatist movements in process because of Hindu Hegemony and Terrorism.

Khan,
this is the mistake that most Pakistanis do. You have a very legitimate grievience against India, that India is helping terrorists who target Pakistan, but by bringing in the internal issues of India like (RSS, minorities...etc), you have deviated from your real issue. There is no Hindu hegemony in India, mate. Even if it is there, is it your problem? Your problem is Indian hegemony in Afghanistan and even Pakistan. By deviating, you have allowed your POV to be rebutted, which would not have happened if you had stuck to your original issue.

 

[Iggy]

Most of these groups which I mentioned are or were part of the Indian government except for the Naxalites who now control almost half of Eastern India indirectly. The Opposition (BJP) is the political wing of RSS and wants to establish 'Akhand Bharat' (United India). Please see this facts based documentary made by a Hindu about Gujarat Riots and see for yourself about the motives of extremist hindus.( Final Solution - Massacres in India) These same extremists killed world famous leader Mahatma Gandhi because he wanted total peace between Pakistan and India. As for distrupting peace in neighbouring countries you must know that Tamil Tigers were created by Indian Intel agency RAW to destabilize Sri Lanka but with the help of Pakistan they were defeated after a 37 years long war. The first suicide bombings/attacks in South Asia were done by extremist hindus and I highly doubt that a true Muslim would do such a thing whether in Pakistan, India or any other place as Islam doesn't allow it. Islam also forbids suicide killings of any form. My friend you may think that I might be some sort of an anti-indian person but I am not one of them. I highly regard Indian people, have some Indian friends and I am also an avid fan of some of your actors. However some fanatics in you country (especially gov people) lead to mistrust among our people and take advantage of the situation and we cannot bear that and put aside our national interests.

Well either you have not a single clue about India or you are ignoring the facts..These groups not a single one of them is a part of the current government and also Akand Bharat who is not an ideology of some extrimist group who i think dont have much of a followers..to be frank I hear about this from this forum for the first time ..yes LTTE was created by India ..But you have to know why it was created..Check the facts about Tamils in Srilanka and you will see..and also India is the first country to send its force to help Srilankan forces in the fight against the tigers when we realise the tigers choose the wrong path, which lead to the assassination of our PM Rajiv Gandhi..

Religious lunatics are every where its sad that you compare them with general Hindu mainstream people..The same BJP who claims to be the mouth piece of Hindutva was shown back door of power in the same country you say extremists rule..Does it count for something??Sir unlike your thinking i can say with 100% confidence that unlike some guys most of these Hindus are friendly to other religions ..

About your doubts about whether Muslims kill innocent people i assume its only because of your blind love for your religion..Open your eyes and read more about TalibaN,Al-Queda,LeT,JuD etc you will get more vivid picture ...

I live in this country and my religion is more minority than Muslims in this country..I never felt that i was discriminated because i was a Christian..

 

[BATMAN]

Wakeup Khan007! Before you ask Indians to accept this "reality" of yours, try convincing your government about it.

I believe you want to say covincing zardari alone because all the related govt. functionaries agree to this point.
How dare you refuse it once your regular soldiers are found fighting Pak army, your wepons and organ removing surgical equipment is confiscated from TTP not to mention common objective.

 

[Bhaarat]

I believe you want to say covincing zardari alone because all the related govt. functionaries agree to this point.
How dare you refuse it once your regular soldiers are found fighting Pak army, your wepons and organ removing surgical equipment is confiscated from TTP not to mention common objective.

Are you saying that India has sent its regular soldiers to fight PA in Afghanistan? Yaar, do you think India is stupid? Why will we send our troops now, we will do so once our proxies have done their job.

 

[KSRaj]

I believe you want to say covincing zardari alone because all the related govt. functionaries agree to this point.
How dare you refuse it once your regular soldiers are found fighting Pak army, your wepons and organ removing surgical equipment is confiscated from TTP not to mention common objective.

Someday in the future India might actually get involved in such activities and Pakistanis might actually have some good evidence against ...
but because of numerous unsubstantiated claims / conspiracy theories like these .... no one might beleive Pakistan then, no one taking such claims seriously.


As for TTP and India having a common objective, I cant see any, so please enlighten me.

As far as I can understand, TTP's objective is to create a Islamic emirate of Pakistan ... their version of Islam ofcourse.

And as far as India is concerned, a neighbouring nation run by the likes of TTP, would be its worst nightmare for very obvious reasons.

So I fail to see the commonality of objectives that you claim between India and TTP. All ears waiting for you to enlighten me.

 

[Khan007]

Well either you have not a single clue about India or you are ignoring the facts..These groups not a single one of them is a part of the current government and also Akand Bharat who is not an ideology of some extrimist group who i think dont have much of a followers..to be frank I hear about this from this forum for the first time ..yes LTTE was created by India ..But you have to know why it was created..Check the facts about Tamils in Srilanka and you will see..and also India is the first country to send its force to help Srilankan forces in the fight against the tigers when we realise the tigers choose the wrong path, which lead to the assassination of our PM Rajiv Gandhi..

Religious lunatics are every where its sad that you compare them with general Hindu mainstream people..The same BJP who claims to be the mouth piece of Hindutva was shown back door of power in the same country you say extremists rule..Does it count for something??Sir unlike your thinking i can say with 100% confidence that unlike some guys most of these Hindus are friendly to other religions ..

About your doubts about whether Muslims kill innocent people i assume its only because of your blind love for your religion..Open your eyes and read more about TalibaN,Al-Queda,LeT,JuD etc you will get more vivid picture ...

I live in this country and my religion is more minority than Muslims in this country..I never felt that i was discriminated because i was a Christian..

Dear friend, I really appreciate your views on these touchy issues but everyone has a different opinion and point of view. I know about the Taliban and the Al Qaeda very well. They were formed during Soviet-Afghan War by CIA and ISI to push back the Russians. After the war a power vacuum was created which was then filled by the Taliban after a long civil war. Al Qaeda was headed by Osama bin Laden, who is also known as Tim Osman (top CIA agent). He was working with the CIA for a long time. As for the JuD, they were never involved in Mumbai Attacks and if you know then they are one of the largest humanitarian groups in Pakistan. They also received International Recognition for the humanitarian efforts in rebuilding earthquake affected areas. Mumbai Attacks Investigations have too many flaws and unanswered questions.
1)Ask your gov of why Hemant Karkare was killed who was probing links between extremist hindus and Israel ?
2)Why Ajmal Kasab was wearing a hindu saffron band ?
3) Why the Indian dossier contains toothpastes, shaving creams, pickles, milkpack tins and other day to day usage commodities ? ( Were the attackers on a vacation. Its ridicluous)
4) Why did the attackers buy liquors and drank them? ( True Muslims don't drink alcohol)
5) Why Mr. Abdul Rehman Antulay was silenced on expressing rightful and justified questions about Karkare's death ?
6) Why the Mumbai Police was not taking swift action against these terrorists? (I mean people were begging them on the spot to retaliate but they sat like cowards)
7) Why did the Indian Coastal Guards and Navy not spot the terrorists before they embarked on India Gate ?
8) How did the ammuntions for the attack get to Taj Hotel room before the attacks took place ?
8) Why did the Israeli Embassy in Washington DC make contact with these terrorists in Nariman House ?
9) Why were these terrorists speaking in Hyderabadi/Marathi accent ? (Pakistanis do not speak in such manner. They don't pronounce zabardasti as jabardasti or zulm as julm.)
10) Why did the Indian government not take immediate action and said that the attacks were a surprise when it was already informed by US Government of a possible attack from seaside in October 2008?