India confesses under PLA pressure: our drone malfunctioned and trespassed into China

[CoffeeByte]

Carrier landings are simple? Hell your planes crash even without landing...Since when does a single pilot become 2 pilots. J-15 is a single seat plane genius. So, still doesn't prove why IAF is not the flying coffin force.

Two Chinese pilots died in J-15 crashes in 2014:

Two Chinese test pilots were killed during development of the country’s first aircraft carrier fighter wing, state media said, in a rare admission of problems with the hugely popular naval program

Another J-15 pilot died in 2016:

Fatal crash of Chinese J-15 carrier jet puts question mark over troubled programme
Mainland report confirms fighter pilot died after failure during test run of aircraft
Choi Chi-yukChoi Chi-yuk
UPDATED : Wednesday, 27 Jul 2016, 11:40PM

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Mainland state media confirmed for the first time yesterday that a home-grown, carrier-based J-15 jet fighter crashed during training in April.

So total of three Chinese j-15 pilots died whereas not a single Indian MiG-29K ever crashed.

That just shows how much better Indian pilots are than Chinese ones.

Assuming even 10 J-10s have crashed, do you know how many planes IAF have crashed over the past decade. Actually, why not make it 24 crashes since you mention DOZENS right? Compare that to yout crash rate.

Definitely IAF crashes over last decade is less than China's

 

[Han Patriot]

Two Chinese pilots died in J-15 crashes in 2014:


Another J-15 pilot died in 2016:


So total of three Chinese j-15 pilots died whereas not a single Indian MiG-29K ever crashed.

That just shows how much better Indian pilots are than Chinese ones.

Yah, can you find me a neutral source to verify that? Chinese media verified the 2016 crash and admitted it when it happened. Even if you increase it to 12 crashes, still doesn't change the fact your air force is the flying coffin air force right?

Two Chinese pilots died in J-15 crashes in 2014:


Another J-15 pilot died in 2016:


So total of three Chinese j-15 pilots died whereas not a single Indian MiG-29K ever crashed.

That just shows how much better Indian pilots are than Chinese ones.


Definitely IAF crashes over last decade is less than China's

Past 5 years alone you crash 20 planes.

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/ind...ian-air-force-train-pilots-poorly-243756.html

Does not even include the C-130 crash.

November 8, 2013: A MiG-29 aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF) crashed near Jamnagar minutes after it took off from an airbase for a routine flying training sortie. The pilot escaped safely.

 

[CoffeeByte]

Yah, can you find me a neutral source to verify that? Chinese media verified the 2016 crash and admitted it when it happened. Even if you increase it to 12 crashes, still doesn't change the fact your air force is the flying coffin air force right?


Past 5 years alone you crash 20 planes.

Does not even include the C-130 crash.

IHS Jane's itself reported the loss of two Chinese J-15 in 2014.
The fact that China reported J-15 crash several months after it happened shows many crashes go hidden.

BTW 20 crashes in 5 years is pretty low.
It is only 4-5 crashes a year.

 

[Han Patriot]

IHS Jane's itself reported the loss of two Chinese J-15 in 2014.
The fact that China reported J-15 crash several months after it happened shows many crashes go hidden.

BTW 20 crashes in 5 years is pretty low.
It is only 4-5 crashes a year.

Sure, according to Janes, A BRITISH TABLOID.

http://greatgameindia.com/indian-air-force-high-crash-rate/

“As many as 87 accidents had taken place, which works out to be more than 10 per year. In these accidents, as many as 75 lives were lost,” said the report, tabled in Parliament.

You have the worst aircraft crash rate on earth genius.

The People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has 150 Flankers of Russian origin and 229 Chinese knockoffs. That’s a total of 379 aircraft, for an eventual figure of 400 Russian made Flankers, derivatives and illegal copies. And yet the PLAAF has lost fewer Sukhoi in crashes. Are the Chinese Sukhois better maintained, better built or are Chinese pilots simply playing it safe?

Your own parliement admitted this.

2 C-130 damaged, that how much burned? If you include drone crashes, that's 12mil$ a pop. A single C-130 is roughly 200 mil$? Amazing India indeed.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...er-damaged-in-accident-in-ladakh-1573770.html

 

[CoffeeByte]

Sure, according to Janes, A BRITISH TABLOID.



You have the worst aircraft crash rate on earth genius.



Your own parliement admitted this.

More people read IHS Jane's than crappy global times or chinamil.

BTW how does IAF have a high crash rate when our fighter jet crash rate is less than Pakistani fighter jets crash rate .

Anyways worst crash rate award goes to PLAAF for crashing 9 brand new J-10s.

 

[Han Patriot]

More people read IHS Jane's than crappy global times or chinamil.

BTW how does IAF have a high crash rate when our fighter jet crash rate is less than Pakistani fighter jets crash rate .

Anyways worst crash rate award goes to PLAAF for crashing 9 brand new J-10s.

So if JANES is so accurate why didn't they report 9 CRASHES of J-10S? . Is Pakistan = China? Hey why not make it 24 crashes if it makes you feel better?. Is Pakistan losing 10 planes a year? and killed 75 people?

 

[CoffeeByte]

So if JANES is so accurate why didn't they report 9 CRASHES of J-10S? . Is Pakistan = China? Hey why not make it 24 crashes if it makes you feel better?. Is Pakistan losing 10 planes a year? and killed 75 people?

Actually they did report J-10 crashes:
httpswww,aviation-safety,net/wikibase/dblist.php?AcType=J10

 

[Han Patriot]

Actually they did report J-10 crashes:
httpswww,aviation-safety,net/wikibase/dblist.php?AcType=J10

I don't see JANES reported 9 CRASHES though. I see search links.

This information is added by users of ASN. Neither ASN nor the Flight Safety Foundation are responsible for the completeness or correctness of this information.

 

[CoffeeByte]

So if JANES is so accurate why didn't they report 9 CRASHES of J-10S? . Is Pakistan = China? Hey why not make it 24 crashes if it makes you feel better?. Is Pakistan losing 10 planes a year? and killed 75 people?

Pakistan crash rate is far worse rhan Indias.
Since January 2012 till today there have 29 crashes of IAF fighter jets whereas PAF has seen 24 fighter jet crashes i.e. a ratio of 1.21:1.
Now taking into consideration the fact the IAF is 1.8 to 2.0x the size of PAF, PAFs crash rate is significantly worse than IAF's

 

[Han Patriot]

Pakistan crash rate is far worse rhan Indias.
Since January 2012 till today there have 29 crashes of IAF fighter jets whereas PAF has seen 24 fighter jet crashes i.e. a ratio of 1.21:1.
Now taking into consideration the fact the IAF is 1.8 to 2.0x the size of PAF, PAFs crash rate is significantly worse than IAF's

Why not you extrapolate from 2008 to 2017, how many Indian crashes vs Pakistan vs China?

 

[CoffeeByte]

I don't see JANES reported 9 CRASHES though. I see search links.

They did.
But you need paid subscription to view their monthly military attrition list.

Anyways the double 2014 j-15 crash was reported by Chinese media:

httpwwwusa,chinadaily,com,cn/china/2014-08/27/content_18498838,htm

Why not you extrapolate from 2008 to 2017, how many Indian crashes vs Pakistan vs China?

Data for China is not available as China does not release the numbers.

 

[ziaulislam]

Two Chinese pilots died in J-15 crashes in 2014:


Another J-15 pilot died in 2016:


So total of three Chinese j-15 pilots died whereas not a single Indian MiG-29K ever crashed.

That just shows how much better Indian pilots are than Chinese ones.


Definitely IAF crashes over last decade is less than China's

how many died in su 30 crashes
you do know that is more reasonable comparison right?

 

[Han Patriot]

They did.
But you need paid subscription to view their monthly military attrition list.

Anyways the double 2014 crash was reported by Chinese media:

httpwwwusa,chinadaily,com,cn/china/2014-08/27/content_18498838,htm


Data for China is not available as China does not release the numbers.

OOOO NOW YOU NEED TO PAY? . Btw, nobody can open your Chinadaily site.

They did.
But you need paid subscription to view their monthly military attrition list.

Anyways the double 2014 j-15 crash was reported by Chinese media:

httpwwwusa,chinadaily,com,cn/china/2014-08/27/content_18498838,htm


Data for China is not available as China does not release the numbers.

Yet you know DOZENS crash before this.

 

[CoffeeByte]

OOOO NOW YOU NEED TO PAY? . Btw, nobody can open your Chinadaily site.

Just replace the commas with dots and you can visit the link

how many died in su 30 crashes
you do know that is more reasonable comparison right?

Only three pilots in comparison to four pilots who died in J-10 crashes.

 

[Han Patriot]

Just replace the commas with dots and you can visit the link


Only three pilots in comparison to four pilots who died in J-10 crashes.

Fine, assume I cna open that link, but how does that compare to 10 planes lost per year and 75 died in IAF? . And where is the Janes report on 9 J-10 crashes?

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Database/Accidents/listing.php

See this, as per Bharat Rakshak, from 2007-2015, 118 accidents.