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India & China seek to remove LAC: Breaking News

Even as the media focus on last month's alleged confrontation between Chinese and Indian naval ships, dismissed by diplomats here as a non-event, both governments are quietly working on removing the occasional wrinkles that affect the largely tranquil Line of Actual Control (LAC), which serves as the boundary.

China and India have an agreement ensuring that heavy military equipment stay away from the border. Also in place in a pact prohibiting military exercises very close to the LAC to avoid misinterpretation of the actual intentions in case a large body of troops suddenly descends there for war games.

India and China will soon open talks on a mechanism that would solve issues arising out of military patrols coming face to face on the LAC. The negotiating brief will be taken up by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) before the two sides get down to hammering out an agreement on a “Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on Border Affairs.” This will be one of the few occasions when the draft of the negotiating text is first sent to the CCS for approval, say official sources.

Increased patrols

Explaining the need for such an agreement, officials pointed out that when patrols came face to face on a piece of territory claimed by both sides, the issue would be resolved by border commanders. But there was no solution to resolve “trends” that appeared in certain pockets of the LAC. Giving the example of a lake in Ladakh, the sources said increased patrols by either side increased the possibility of their coming face to face. Such a trend stepped up the possibility of confrontation as also of the situation taking an ugly turn.

The proposed mechanism will examine these trends after the other side has lodged a strong protest and suggest toning down patrol frequency by one of the militaries. The option of complaining to the embassies has been tried in the past but has not been found workable in the absence of a specialised mechanism, which the proposed agreement seeks to put in place.

Explaining the mechanism, the officials said: “If India sees a pattern behind the patrols, it will strongly protest. Both sides need a specialised mechanism, where the other side's protest can be handled and examined. One example is Pangong Tso in Ladakh, where this issue occurs frequently. In such a case, the working mechanism can be activated and India can tell them, without prejudice to the perception of the LAC, [about] the need to reduce their patrols. The danger is without such a mechanism, patrols coming face to face too frequently could lead to an escalation.''

India and China have already activated a hotline between the Prime Ministers. However, it has not been used much because there has hardly been any issue that has necessitated their holding immediate consultations. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has used the hotline only once when he spoke to his counterpart Wen Jiabao just before the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, Indian, China and South Africa) summit at the Chinese sea resort of Sanya in April this year. “After that, there has been no occasion for them to speak on an urgent basis,'' maintained the officials.

Once the CCS clears the negotiating brief, it is expected, an agreement could be signed at the next summit meeting between leaders of both countries.

The Hindu : News / National : India, China seek to remove LAC wrinkles
 
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Now that looks like a pretty smart move by both governments. The quicker the border dispute solves, the better for development and other major issues. Since the dispute is not very complicated unlike Kashmir, I suppose it can solved without bloodshed. India is 15 years behind China in development and China is 15 years behind West, so both have a lot to catch up.

Chinese have settled their disputes with Russia earlier, so they can do it again. Let's hope this works out.
 
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Chinese have settled their disputes with Russia earlier, so they can do it again. Let's hope this works out.

We settled all our land disputes when we were at a VERY weak point in our history.

Now we are left with one land-border dispute (with India) and several maritime-border disputes (in the SCS).

But China is now at a position of "relative" strength. So it will be much harder to give any concessions on border disputes, the nationalists at home and within the CPC will not allow it. Anyway, I hope some kind of mutual understanding will be reached.
 
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We settled all our land disputes when we were at a VERY weak point in our history.

Now we are left with one land-border dispute (with India) and several maritime-border disputes (in the SCS).

But China is now at a position of "relative" strength. So it will be much harder to give any concessions on border disputes. Anyway, I hope some kind of understanding will be reached.
It depends on the need of the PLA. Both parties are aware that there is nothing to gain but everything to lose...
 
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once again wake me up when it happens i think only way to resolve issue is how we did in 2004 India recognized Tibet as apart of China, China did the same by recognizing Sikkim as apart of India, if we recognize Aksai Chin apart of China would they recognize Arunachal as apart of India?
 
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India and China have already activated a hotline between the Prime Ministers. However, it has not been used much because there has hardly been any issue that has necessitated their holding immediate consultations. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has used the hotline only once when he spoke to his counterpart Wen Jiabao just before the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, Indian, China and South Africa) summit at the Chinese sea resort of Sanya in April this year. “After that, there has been no occasion for them to speak on an urgent basis,'' maintained the officials.
Why the hell our PM used the hotline for BRIC confeerrence ? Just to show that he is using it ? I man every month 1 incident happens if we won't make an official complaint this would only escalate and don't be surprised if someone open fire.
 
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We settled all our land disputes when we were at a VERY weak point in our history.

Now we are left with one land-border dispute (with India) and several maritime-border disputes (in the SCS).

But China is now at a position of "relative" strength. So it will be much harder to give any concessions on border disputes, the nationalists at home and within the CPC will not allow it. Anyway, I hope some kind of mutual understanding will be reached.

IIRC, China resolved border issue with Russia after the breakup of Soviet Union when both were weak or I must say that China was relatively stronger.

Neither PLA nor IA is what they used to be 1962. Conventionally, both are strong enough for a stalemate and in terms of nuclear, (keeping aside the childish talks of "I'll nuke you" - "Not if I nuke you first") their wont be a country left to fight for in both cases.
 
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IIRC, China resolved border issue with Russia after the breakup of Soviet Union when both were weak or I must say that China was relatively stronger.

The Sino-Russian territory dispute was going on for a very long time before that, all the way to the Qing Dynasty and during the Sino-Soviet split.

And even if we just consider the agreement in 1991, after the split-up of the Soviet Union, there is no way that we were relatively stronger than Russia at that point.

Even today I don't think China holds a relatively strong position vis-a-vis Russia.

In truth I think it will be very difficult for China to make concessions on border disputes right now, maybe in a few years time.
 
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The Sino-Russian territory dispute was going on for a very long time before that, all the way to the Qing Dynasty and during the Sino-Soviet split.

And even if we just consider the agreement in 1991, after the split-up of the Soviet Union, there is no way that we were relatively stronger than Russia at that point.

Even today I don't think China holds a relatively strong position vis-a-vis Russia.

In truth I think it will be very difficult for China to make concessions on border disputes right now, maybe in a few years time.

Mate a country recently broken into 15 pieces, stripped of more than half it's troops, paranoia of West taking the advantage of its weaker position, nuclear and other strategic assets now in the hands of different countries with anti Russia stance (politically and religiously), and a bankrupt economy, then yes I think China was in a far better position.

The reason Russia today is militarily stronger than China is because it came back with a bang. Complete transformation of Russian policies is the reason we see what Russia is today. It will take China a few more years to leave Russia behind.

On topic- Cannot comment on CPC's stance but the Congress fools running Indian government will be too scared to take any sort of action positive or negative.
 
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This news only concentrates efforts to normalize LAC situation and remove unnecessary military formations which could be resulted in open conflict as China don't want to open many fronts. In my point of view China wanted to tackle Indian involvement in Vietnam issue first keeping LAC on freezing point. Removing LAC is nothing but misinterpretation.

Moreover Sino-Russian and Sino-Indian relations can’t be judge over same criteria.
 
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once again wake me up when it happens i think only way to resolve issue is how we did in 2004 India recognized Tibet as apart of China, China did the same by recognizing Sikkim as apart of India, if we recognize Aksai Chin apart of China would they recognize Arunachal as apart of India?

Actually china wants aksai chin to be accepted by India as a part of China and hand over the tawang district to them . India is ready for the first one , but the talks are stuck at tawang . Entire Arunachal is not really much of an issue .
 
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The usual Chinese tactics to slow down defence preparedness.

The same way they did for declaring Space to be an area of peace so that they could catch up with the US.

And that crafty "peaceful rise" ploy wherein having got their teeth in the interim, they are trying to boss around the South China Sea!
 
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The usual Chinese tactics to slow down defence preparedness.

The same way they did for declaring Space to be an area of peace so that they could catch up with the US.

And that crafty "peaceful rise" ploy wherein having got their teeth in the interim, they are trying to boss around the South China Sea!
Even with their current strength they cant achieve absolute control of SCS.
 
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