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Some alternate views on the LoC fiasco finally

Major General (Retd) Ashok K Mehta

Ceasefire violations occur cyclically, often premeditated but invariably linked to unresolvable Kashmir masla. Feuding local commanders testing the mettle of new battalions on LoC, tit-fortat responses and infiltration are the usual provocations for exchange of fire across the line.

Someone who has spent onethird of his youthful time astride the line, I understand what the Army calls the dynamics of LoC.

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Nine out of 10 times, it is the autonomous Pak military that initiates the firing, though there is no way to ascertain this in the absence of the UNMOGIP (United Nations Military Observer Group for India-Pakistan), sensibly derecognised by India after the Shimla agreement.

This time around, additional reasons have been offered for the current round of firing — political instability, civil-army power struggle, elections in J&K and the creme de la creme testing Modi. "Pakistan should stop ceasefire violations now and understand the reality that times have changed in India," thundered home minister Rajnath Singh. This is reminiscent of BJP leaders asking Pak to lay off Kashmir after the nuclear tests in 1998. Soon Pak did its own nuclear tests, achieving parity.

"There is a new government in India with 282 seats and the world now recognises India" is the common refrain but this will not wash with Pak. With 489 seats late Rajiv Gandhi had to seek a meeting with General Zia ul Haq to defuse Operation Brasstacks in 1986 which was threatening to blow up into a war. The simple fact is that India has not developed a decisive, conventional military superiority to give Pakistan army a befitting reply. So what you get instead is 'Act Tough' rhetoric amounting to disproportionate response — no flag meetings, no DGMO talks and not even political talks unless Pak stops firing.

This is not remotely akin to the frequently touted muscular and robust foreign and security policy of the Modi government. On Air Force Day, on Wednesday, when asked by reporters on border firing, PM Modi responded with five words, "Jaldi sab theek ho jayega." Because this cycle of small arms and mortar fire has caused deaths of mainly civilians on both sides, as soldiers are inside bunkers, and is leading to the law of diminishing results, Mr Modi's words are prophetic.

Pak army has achieved its immediate objective of internationalising Kashmir, pushing in infiltrators and testing Modi. You do not need ISRO scientists to tell you that Modi could not have acted differently from what Army chief General Dalbir Suhag has advised — bullet for bullet, mortar shell for mortar shell but confining the military action to tactical level without escalation.

We in India must get accustomed to increased frequency and intensity of flare-ups on LoC. Some divine force — read US — has managed to restrain Pak army after Mumbai 2008 terror attacks from using its strategic assets like Lashkar-e-Taiba and other loonies from staging cross-border terrorist attacks on Indian mainland. The gap between major attacks is seven years. So watch out for 2015, once US withdraws from Afghanistan and loses interests in the region.

In the interregnum, the punching bag will remain LoC where the Pak army will expresses its rage and defiance over civilian control and arch-enemy India. Pakistan NSA Sartaj Aziz has been bending over backwards for resumption of dialogue.

Firing will peter out soon setting the stage for next month's Saarc summit in Kathmandu. Mr Modi, the acclaimed new messiah of Saarc spirit, will just have one option — to initiate the revival of needlessly stalled dialogue.

Detractors will contend that it is not PM Nawaz Sharif but Gen Raheel Sharif with whom we should talk. That's baloney.
India cannot give Pakistan Army befitting reply - Economic Times
 
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I think that IS befitting reply....
I believe a befitting reply would be one that forces Pakistan to stop the routine of cease-fire violations. Have we achieved that? I don't think so. They continue to fire where they want, when they; want being perfectly aware of India's response.
 
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I think that IS befitting reply....

Isn't that what Pakistan has been doing as well? So by your people's logic, Pakistan Army has been giving befitting reply as well? Tit for tat, India can't match anything unless it's an all out war. Do you really want an all out war just because there was exchange on the LOC?
 
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Isn't that what Pakistan has been doing as well? So by your people's logic, Pakistan Army has been giving befitting reply as well? Tit for tat, India can't match anything unless it's an all out war. Do you really want an all out war just because there was exchange on the LOC?
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Because according to our people
Nine out of 10 times, it is the autonomous Pak military that initiates the firing
Pakistan is the aggressor here. We are the one responding.
But obviously you won't believe that so let's leave it at that.
 
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Isn't that what Pakistan has been doing as well? So by your people's logic, Pakistan Army has been giving befitting reply as well? Tit for tat, India can't match anything unless it's an all out war. Do you really want an all out war just because there was exchange on the LOC?
yeah, IMHO, both are giving each other befitting 'replies'......only in Pakistan's case, it cannot be called a 'reply' because you always start it......that's what I know as an Indian and I bet, as a Pakistani, you have the same thing to say.............look at my next reply.....

I believe a befitting reply would be one that forces Pakistan to stop the routine of cease-fire violations. Have we achieved that? I don't think so. They continue where they want, when they want being perfectly aware of India's response.
How do you think the befitting reply should be, which will force Pakistan to stop cease-fire violation?.....a disproportionately huge reply??
I don't think that will do.......only a full fledged war or solving the Kashmir issue can stop the cross border firing....
 
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We've seen your aggression plenty of times. In 1948, 1971, 1965, 1999. And on each of those occasion Pakistan was also the 'RETREATER':lol:
Question is what advantage Pakistan will have to become an aggressor now or in future ??
 
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I don't think that will do.......only a full fledged war or solving the Kashmir issue can stop the cross border firing....
u cant go for any of the two options u gave
 
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How do you think the befitting reply should be, which will force Pakistan to stop cease-fire violation?.....a disproportionately huge reply??
I don't think that will do.......only a full fledged war or solving the Kashmir issue can stop the cross border firing....
YES and as the author points out
The simple fact is that India has not developed a decisive, conventional military superiority to give Pakistan army a befitting reply.
I don't think you can classify bullet-for-bullet as a 'BEFITTTING' reply only for them to show up once again and start the whole process again -- Provocation-Response-Big Mouthed politicos rhetoric of how we taught them a lesson-Temporary peace-Provocation-Response.......................................................................................................................................................................................................
 
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