India calls for UN Security Council reforms this year

[haidian]

I have no problem. Someone said that India has all reasons to be a permanent member in UNSC except for its territorial dispute with China... So i hope you understood that territorial dispute can not be a reason since China too has disputes.

That's exactly what the problem lies, India has disputes with an existing P5 member.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If countries are so scared of India then definitely India is doing something good.

I dont see any instance where in P5 are using veto so frequently thus making security council a playground for P5. I am sure each of these countries discuss among themselves about all the issues bought to the table and only in rare occasions they use VETO. So all the countries in P5 are mature to consider India;s participation.

Also I am sure diplomats hvae done their homework among themselves and with other P5 nations. These strong statements indicates they have their own timelines and they now how much support they have before going public.

All countries work for their own interests.

Tell me how it is in the interests of the P5 to dilute their own veto power?

Even having only 5 veto powers is a headache, almost nothing can get done.

So how on Earth would it help to double the number of vetoes? That would make the P5 weaker in the UNSC, and make it even more impossible to get anything done. No wonder the UNSC reforms have been delayed for decades.

 

[haidian]

If UNSC had 7 to 10 veto holding memebers, UN would be virtually dead.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I have no problem. Someone said that India has all reasons to be a permanent member in UNSC except for its territorial dispute with China... So i hope you understood that territorial dispute can not be a reason since China too has disputes.

The difference is you have a territorial dispute with a P5 member who has veto power.

Just think about it.

Russia has an active territorial dispute with Japan (Japan also sanctioned then over Crimea), but it is Russia who has the veto power.

Which means Russia can keep them out of the P5, but Japan can't do the same to Russia.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Ok... but I tell you his clique is the biggest obstacle to our country ... and that is no secret. Kejru is a symptom of the disease that has been eroding india from the inside.

We are a democracy. Its our character now. Please respect people's mandate.

 

[AugenBlick]

We are a democracy. Its our character now. Please respect people's mandate.

lol ... I respect peoples mandate ... I am not sitting on a dharna to oppose his day to day working ...unlike he himself
I definitely won't give him a free pass or agree with his policies or shut my eyes to the disaster he calls 'swaraj'

 

[Srinivas]

I have no idea why Chinese are objecting to UN reforms while every other nation in P5 are supporting India.
Except USA and Russia and to some extent Britain, the remaining two countries China and France got the P5 seat easily, even though they lost their respective countries to the aggressors.

Mean while some anti India forces from our North West neighbour jumps up and down with comments that do not make any sense.

for them ....
India has to wait and become strong so that countries will recognize and give permanent seat

 

[haidian]

We are a democracy. Its our character now. Please respect people's mandate.

UNSC is not a place to practice democracy, it's absolute power.

 

[Razia Sultana]

The difference is you have a territorial dispute with a P5 member who has veto power.

Just think about it.

Russia has an active territorial dispute with Japan (Japan also sanctioned then over Crimea), but it is Russia who has the veto power.

Which means Russia can keep them out of the P5, but Japan can't do the same to Russia.

Does being in P5 helps in a territorial dispute? Just think about it.

 

[AugenBlick]

UNSC is not a place to practice democracy, it's absolute power.

That comment was for me, regarding an internal Indian issue.

 

[haidian]

I have no idea why Chinese are objecting to UN reforms while every other nation in P5 are supporting it.
Except USA and Russia and to some extent Britain, the remaining two countries China and France got the P5 seat easily, even though they lost their respective countries to the aggressors.

Mean while some anti India forces from our North West neighbour jumps up and down with comments that do not make any sense.

Cause 40% of Japanese casualties were suffered in China. we paid this seat with lives and blood, without millions of us fighting large campaigns in China, other allies will suffer hundreds of thousands more casualities.

 

[Razia Sultana]

UNSC is not a place to practice democracy, it's absolute power.

My comments were addressed to someone else and for a different reason. by quoting out of context you are only undermining yourself.

 

[haidian]

Indian was part of UNSC, well, sort of. cause India was part of UK back then.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Does being in P5 helps in a territorial dispute? Just think about it.

Maybe not, but being in the P5 means you can veto any resolution you like. Which means being able to keep anyone out of the P5 if it serves our interests to do so.

Veto is useful, no UNSC resolution can be passed against a veto member.

Why do you think the G4 want it too?

 

[lightoftruth]

China most likely will not Veto reason being their is far more which is common at international stage btw India &China from climate change,BRICS,opposition to USA invasions and various other areas India's entry in UNSC security council as permanent member will create a balance btw western world and would be RIC block.

OTOH If China veto's it ,it will create a western ally out of India which is growing economically, nuclear and handle's various routes with constant confrontation.

Although i believe major obstacle is resolution of land dispute once it will be done their is no reason for china to be any opposition rather it could be a strong partner.