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India bids to be Africa's 'new best friend'

Little thing called non-voilent movement that influenced modern great black leaders like Mr King i think u failed to mention.

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Martin Luther King, Jr.- Influence of Gandhi and Nonviolence - YouTube


I let the great man speak for himself on Gandhi

African doesn't equal African-American. They don't identify with each other at all. In general African Americans think they are superior to Africans and vice versa. Bringing MLK into this is the height of stupidity.
 
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African doesn't equal African-American. They don't identify with each other at all. In general African Americans think they are superior to Africans and vice versa. Bringing MLK into this is the height of stupidity.

Shows how dumb u are, MLK is a inspiration for all the oppressed it dont matter if your african, indian or american! it is aganist the 'white imperial' racists like KKK to the british EDF

MLK is a leader for all the world and especially coloured persons.

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African doesn't equal African-American. They don't identify with each other at all. In general African Americans think they are superior to Africans and vice versa. Bringing MLK into this is the height of stupidity.


Never heard of black power? or the one nation movement :rofl:

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Black power Africa is one love :agree:
 
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Hello, this is 2011, not 1972. You must still think Pan-Arab nationalism is alive too. Welcome to reality and 2011.

MLK has little significance to Africans. So your stupid link to India is ridiculous. Mandela has much more significance.

And stop making stupid statements like "Black power Africa is one love". It makes you sound like an idiot (more than usual).


Shows how dumb u are, MLK is a inspiration for all the oppressed it dont matter if your african, indian or american! it is aganist the 'white imperial' racists like KKK to the british EDF

MLK is a leader for all the world and especially coloured persons.

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Never heard of black power? or the one nation movement :rofl:

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blackpowersalutejpg.jpeg



Black power Africa is one love :agree:
 
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India is not balancing China in Africa

During his recent trip to Africa, India's Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh announced a generous aid package of $5 billion for the region, which will be made available through concessional loans. This gesture has been misinterpreted by some observers as India's move to balance China in the African continent. There has also been uninterrupted rhetoric that China and India are following in the footsteps of previous colonial powers. This allegation, absurdly, came from none other than the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.

With their imperial mentality, the European powers and the United States has exploited and neglected the continent for centuries and now they claim to be its spokespersons.

The Western powers have never believed in the peaceful development and sovereign equality of the nations across the continents. Indeed their industrialization in the past few hundred years was filled with atrocities and exploitations in search of raw materials and markets for their products. Now, when China and India have come to play a positive role in the continent, the Western observers accuse them of practicing neocolonialism in Africa.

To begin with, unlike the rapacious and predatory way in which Europe - and the US to a large extent - accumulated its capital and wealth, the economic growth of India and China has always been based on a peaceful development model, which first and foremost guarantees the sovereign equality of the nations engaged in mutual trade and investment.

The famous principle of “PANCHSHEEl” or “the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence”, which was drafted by the leadership of the two countries and implemented as early as 1954, continues to be the main guiding principle of our foreign economic policy. The two countries have long desisted from interfering in the domestic policy of the host nations.

From the very beginning, India and China both shared a friendly relationship with most of the African countries and China has begun providing help in aid and technology since the 1950s. Since Prime Minister Nehru and Premier Zhou Enlai, there have been regular economic and cultural exchanges between China and India on the one hand and Africa on the other hand on an equal basis. The whole of Africa, along with India and China, constitute the largest block of humanity and are still identified as developing nations. Therefore, India and China have a moral obligation to share their peace and prosperity with the African nations and help them in realizing their peaceful economic growth.

As is well-known, in the international division of labor, Indians are famous for their teaching skills and India enjoys a leading position in major outsourcing services, whereas the Chinese are known for their speedy construction projects as well as the scale of their manufacturing industry. Thus the nature of their skills are very complementary, and with adequate financial support from their respective governments, the companies from India and China can do a much better job for Africa’s economic growth.

Although a large chunk of the investment India is now pouring into Africa is state-sponsored - hence the claim that India is balancing out China in the continent - the booming private sector should have never been overlooked. By 2010, India's private investment in Africa had already exceeded $5 billion. That figure increased significantly when the Indian cellular service provider BHARATI cut a deal worth $13 billion with MTN Group, the South Africa-based multinational telecommunications company. The deal has helped cut down mobile service charges significantly and made phone calls much cheaper and affordable across the African continent.

Let me conclude with the note that it is not India versus China in Africa. It is India and China in Africa. India does not believe in balancing China in Africa, or as a matter of fact, in any other part of the world. There is enough space for these two countries to grow together and reestablish their paramount economic and political status, which they had enjoyed until the mid-nineteenth century

India is not balancing China in Africa
 
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Wow. Some of the posts here border on internet diahorrea :D Really folks, if you do not know the true situation in a place then please refrain from posting just to boost the ego of your profile.

Fact is that in southern Africa, China is streaks ahead of India. The Chinese are no longer just exporting their merchandise into Africa, they are also building huge "China Malls" to retail their goods. Their mining rights in most of Africa is massive. It will take India more than 50 years to catch up with China on that advantage.

Indian descended (mostly decendents of indentured labourers) people in Africa no longer regard themselves as Indians. They have no allegiance to India and save for the religious links, many of them do not even affiliate themselves with Indian culture. In fact most Indian origin Africans look down upon and despise Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and regard us as an equal nuinsance to the Nigerians. No chances of India benefitting from large indigenous Indian populations in certain parts of Africa. These people have become part of the countries they live in and in fact many of them do not speak or understand the Indian languages of their forefathers. Most of the Indian descendants who are in business prefer doing business with China anyways and share the same sentiments that most foreign businesses share about India, namely that there is too much red tape in India and that Indian businesses cannot be relied upon to deliver the goods timeously and responsibly unlike their Chinese counterparts.

Gandhi is admired in Africa. Many streets are named after him and many memorial statues are erected of him in southern Africa.

The fact of the matter is that questions are being asked in Africa about the benefits of dealing with China. The Chinese way of doing business in Africa is too brazenly self centred. Chinese companies are known to import their labour from China to save on labour costs and to skim around the labour laws here. In Africa, labour is a sensitive issue due to the high unemployment. If India plans on getting a foothold in Africa, it will be making the biggest mistake to emulate the Chinese code of business. Unfortunately the Indian code of business is also questionable from my experience in working for Indian businesses in the past.

My personal and sad opinion is that the best friends of Africa is the west and Europe. Despite their plundering of Africa in the past, they always step in with aid etc when there is a crisis in Africa. They apply the same or similar business ethics when investing in Africa which they have back home. India, China and Asia will take hundreds of years to learn that if you invest in a region then you have to put back something into that region and that you cannot just continously extract selfishlessly. Until then, Asia will always be treated with suspicion out here
 
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India is all for development in Africa...every Ethiopian family has atleast one family member studying in India and African chose India over any other country when it comes to education..and recent aid of 5 bn USD to Africa shows India is true best friend of Africa :tup:
 
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Why cant india start bidding freinds in its own neighbourhood
 
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against whom?? we have clash of interest..i would rather like India- south east Asian alliance

An alliance does not have to be against anyone. but against anyone who interferes or trys to steal resources from our area.
 
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