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India beats China in Global Air Power Ranking 2022

And?

Like I say IAF pilots are much better trained and they have anyway better planes in Rafale and far more PGMs.




Dude, rather than make such a long and pointless post, have you been paying attention to Ukraine.

Russian Air Force is garbage.

IAF may not be great but they are better than RuAF for sure for the reasons I stated.

Your an idiot.

IAF which operates majority russian planes and uses russian tactics since soviets times is better trained at Russian jets/tactics than the Russians themselves who trained them o_O:crazy: Common man I thought eating fish makes a person intelligent...

IAF has more PGMS??? so how will they deliver them??? with there few dozen jaguars/mirage 2000s :D all there downgraded export versions of russian jets are useless for PGM delivery.

In both kargil+2019 balakot IAF relied on its mirage 2000s as they didnt even trust their jaguars for PGM missions. IAF only has 40 or so Mirage 2000s whereby Russia has hundreds of SU25s/Su24s/Su34s and manufactures its own PGMS in house on a mass scale and even has its own Sattelite network GLOCNASS to rely on. So once again proven your an idiot
 
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Your an idiot.

IAF which operates majority russian planes and uses russian tactics since soviets times is better trained at Russian jets/tactics than the Russians themselves who trained them o_O:crazy: Common man I thought eating fish makes a person intelligent...

IAF has more PGMS??? so how will they deliver them??? with there few dozen jaguars/mirage 2000s :D all there downgraded export versions of russian jets are useless for PGM delivery.

In both kargil+2019 balakot IAF relied on its mirage 2000s as they didnt even trust their jaguars for PGM missions. IAF only has 40 or so Mirage 2000s whereby Russia has hundreds of SU25s/Su24s/Su34s and manufactures its own PGMS in house on a mass scale and even has its own Sattelite network GLOCNASS to rely on. So once again proven your an idiot


You calling me an idiot?

Are you Putin or a Pakistani who wants to just put Indians down?

Kid, I have probably forgotten more than you have or will learn in your entire life.

Ignored.
 
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No making your own planes does not make you better.

IAF pilots train for twice as many hours, have better support aircraft in AWACS, fighter planes in Rafale and also more PGMs.

Russian airforce is garbage as shown by Ukraine war.

IAF only has 3 awacs. The Russians have a 3-4 dozens :D a simple google search can expose all your lies. Only true point being Russian air force is garbage which was ranked #2 in world when I have pointed out many many times its weaknesses far before the recent war when many amature experts like you were pushing false information as experts. Atleast do some basic google research before confusing folks out here.
 
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And?

Like I say IAF pilots are much better trained and they have anyway better planes in Rafale and far more PGMs.
Better trained? are you kidding me? their planes drop like flies and even their military chief was killed in a crash, where did you get the idea they are better trained? with regard to training, Russia is still streets ahead India in every scope, be it sports athletes, researchers or military personnels.

2021 a bloody year for military aviation: CDS among 22 dead in 11 crashes, 5 involving MiG-21s

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New Delhi: The year 2021 has turned out to be one of the bloodiest for India’s military aviation, with 11 crashes resulting in 22 deaths, including that of the country’s first Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) General Bipin Rawat.

The total number of crashes this year is more than twice the number witnessed in 2020. Last year saw five crashes, which led to the deaths of two pilots.

Where to find the chief...
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Better trained? are you kidding me? their planes drop like flies and even their military chief was killed in a crash, where did you get the idea they are better trained? with regard to training, Russia is still streets ahead India in every scope, be it sports athletes, researchers or military personnels.


Top IAF pilots as in the SU-30, Mirage-2000 and Rafale for sure. Not the others.

They fly twice as many hours and even take part in Nato exercises on a regular basis.

As for RuAF please explain why after three months Ukraine airforce is still flying and Turkish TB2s are still hitting Russians?
 
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Rafaele is good, it's just a bit below F-35

Not saying Rafale isnt good, but comparing its performance with the SU35 seems a bit unfair especially when the Rafale never had enemies with such weapons that Ukraine has today.

Also 36 Rafales wont make up for the huge shortfall/quality disadvantage the IAF will have against the PLAAF/PAF.

PAF is fast moving towards having 300+ 4th generation fighters + Dozen or so 5th generation by 2030.

PLAAF is going to have 1300+ 4th generation + 300+ 5th generation by 2030.

IAF will need atleast 300 Rafales minimum to make a dent.
 
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Not saying Rafale isnt good, but comparing its performance with the SU35 seems a bit unfair especially when the Rafale never had enemies with such weapons that Ukraine has today.

Also 36 Rafales wont make up for the huge shortfall/quality disadvantage the IAF will have against the PLAAF/PAF.

PAF is fast moving towards having 300+ 4th generation fighters + Dozen or so 5th generation by 2030.

PLAAF is going to have 1300+ 4th generation + 300+ 5th generation by 2030.

IAF will need atleast 300 Rafales minimum to make a dent.
don't care what indian is going to have but to say PLAAF to have only 300+ 5th gen jets by 2030 is a huge underestimate.
 
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Top IAF pilots as in the SU-30, Mirage-2000 and Rafale for sure. Not the others.

They fly twice as many hours and even take part in Nato exercises on a regular basis.

As for RuAF please explain why after three months Ukraine airforce is still flying and Turkish TB2s are still hitting Russians?
Lol, last time they were engaged in a real combat, their commander pilot was captured by Pakistan, a real nice training. India buys weapons from Russia, it neither has enough funds nor other resources to get a decent training.

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Top IAF pilots as in the SU-30, Mirage-2000 and Rafale for sure. Not the others.

They fly twice as many hours and even take part in Nato exercises on a regular basis.

As for RuAF please explain why after three months Ukraine airforce is still flying and Turkish TB2s are still hitting Russians?
You mean IAF just pick any tom dick harry pilot to charter their CDS? lol.


The pilot disoriented when under stress and fog which causes the crashed. That is not a trait of a well train pilot.
 
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Lol, last time they were engaged in a real combat, their commander pilot was captured by Pakistan, a real nice training. India buys weapons from Russia, it neither has enough funds nor other resources to get a decent training.
When was the last time Chinese airforce went for combat? Its dumb of you to think a vintage jet going down means IAF is a walkover lol. Your air-to-air combat is just wang weiing aircrafts :lol:. IAF has fought in many wars, has shot down planes, has lost planes, has done airstrikes and have suffered casualties as well, alas if you don’t fight, you don’t lose and hence China numba wan!
 
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You mean IAF just pick any tom dick harry pilot to charter their CDS? lol.


The pilot disoriented when under stress and fog which causes the crashed. That is not a trait of a well train pilot.

Forgive the kid he is here for our entertainment :toast_sign:
 
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When was the last time Chinese airforce went for combat? Its dumb of you to think a vintage jet going down means IAF is a walkover lol. Your air-to-air combat is just wang weiing aircrafts :lol:. IAF has fought in many wars, has shot down planes, has lost planes, has done airstrikes and have suffered casualties as well, alas if you don’t fight, you don’t lose and hence China numba wan!

PLAAF fought in WW2, in Korean war, Against India and In vietnam as well. Seems to cover more experience than the IAF...

At this point all your Mig29s, Su20s, and Mig21s are considered vintage by the whole world. Even your defence ministry is scrambling for spares as Russia is using them up for its own fighter jets. Good luck keeping your vintage birds flying over the next few years :D atleast the PAF/PLAAF wont have to deal with that problem
 
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You mean IAF just pick any tom dick harry pilot to charter their CDS? lol.


The pilot disoriented when under stress and fog which causes the crashed. That is not a trait of a well train pilot.


That is a Mig-21 pilot.

They are not the top ones like in SU-30 and Rafale.

Yes IAF is not the best but they can beat junk RuAF.
 
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