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India-Bangladesh Relations: The way forward

why does your government has a problem with the fencing of the border?
why does your govt..not allow trade through the brahmputra?

BD does not have any problem in fencing outside 150 yards of zero line. According to international laws and treaty, fencing is considered as defence structure and India almost all the time grossly violates those treaties and the problem arises.

Hmm regarding Bhramaputra trade I am not sure what exactly is the problem. But my feeling is that, we dont have a port on Bhramaputra. You will directly hit Bay-of-Bengal if you send goods through that river.
 
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^^ you cant prove that obviously...surely if india decides what govt. would come to power...then there is very little you can do....no qn. of a war happening ever...
think over it...not everyone wants war...having good relations with yuor neighbors doesnt hurt.

Here is your (indians) problem, you see choices btw accepting indian hegemony and dictate (in the form of installed stooges, subversion etc) and war.

And we don't accept neither choices. We think best thing to do is show india our back and move on building our country. That means maintain minimum reletion as neighbor but not fall into indian hegemonic trap.

But india and indians don't like our choice. So they come up with deceptive scheme.
 
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BD does not have any problem in fencing outside 150 yards of zero line. According to international laws and treaty, fencing is considered as defence structure and India almost all the time grossly violates those treaties and the problem arises.

India violates the fencing?
dude..we need the fencing...you are against it...and we violate it?why would we waste time and money over something that we dont want?
 
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Here is your (indians) problem, you see choices btw accepting indian hegemony and dictate (in the form of installed stooges, subversion etc) and war.

And we don't accept neither choices. We think best thing to do is show india our back and move on building our country. That means maintain minimum reletion as neighbor but not fall into indian hegemonic trap.

But india and indians don't like our choice. So they come up with deceptive scheme.
well we dont see your elected govt..as our puppets...so they are your choices...you want to show us your back...because you dont like your elected govt..?
alright...we can live with that...our prime concern is the border not being fenced...
 
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India violates the fencing?
dude..we need the fencing...you are against it...and we violate it?why would we waste time and money over something that we dont want?

I said you build it within 150 yards of NML.
Do some googling or visit border.
 
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The roller-coaster Bangladesh-India relationship

Mahmud ur Rahman Choudhury


Indian warning of assassination plot

The Indian foreign secretary Mr. Shiv Shankar Menon paid an unscheduled visit to Bangladesh on 12 April 2009. The Bangladesh foreign ministry officials stated that such a "short notice" visit was unprecedented but maintained that the trip was "just part of ongoing dialogue between friends, between neighbours". The visit went almost unnoticed in the Bangladesh media until the Indian Express on 18 April published a report claiming that the visit was prompted by a need to warn Bangladesh of an assassination threat against its prime minister, Sheikh Hasina. The Indian Express further claimed that Indian intelligence had picked up electronic communications between members of radical/ militant/ terrorist groups operating "in the neighbourhood" and that these intercepts pointed to the existence of a plot to target the "new Sheikh Hasina government". "That prompted India to go ahead and warn the Bangladesh top brass of the threat", the report contended.

There are many explicit and implicit aspects to this Indian Express report. The Indian media has for long been propagating a perception and stoking its own paranoia that Bangladesh is awash with militancy and terrorism quite forgetting the fact that for the last one decade radical politics of the right or religion-based militancy and terrorism have never been able to take root in Bangladesh and have been tackled with draconian measures, reducing any organizational or structural integrity, these "militants" might have had, to impotence.

Explicit in the Indian Express report is the fact that India is so concerned about Bangladesh that it is devoting its overstretched intelligence resources to finding out what is happening here, inspite of the reality that the highly inept and corrupt Indian "intelligence" and law-enforcement agencies have been able to do next to nothing about terrorist, militancy and separatist threats which are tearing India apart. As a matter of fact Indian intelligence agencies have a long history of incompetence if one considers the fact that two Indian prime ministers - Indira Gandhi and her son Rajiv Gandhi - were assassinated without these intelligence agencies being able to get even a hint of these events happening. One could therefore, quite legitimately question the competence and acumen of the Indian intelligence in identifying threats of assassination against the prime minister of Bangladesh. This leads us to the implicit aspects of the Indian Express report.

Implicit in the Express report is the fact that India will not look upon kindly to any government in Bangladesh which will not serve the Indian purpose of establishing a monopoly on South Asia and its considerable resources and markets - and this includes the maritime-boundary demarcation in the Bay of Bengal containing energy resources, the continuous building of barrages upstream, to divert waters of 54 major rivers passing through Bangladesh and transit through Bangladesh making passage of goods, from one part of India to another, easier. Any Bangladeshi government not seeing eye-to-eye with India on these issue is likely to be tarred with the brush of "islamist radicals" and that is why the Indian media and foreign policy campaign of drumming up the extremist/terrorist threat in Bangladesh.

This is a stark warning that any Bangladeshi government inimical to Indian interests is likely to face "interventions" of various sorts and extents, physical and military encroachments included. As to how much of this threat is reality and how much bluff, is difficult to say particularly now when India is in the middle of an election which could lead to a change in government but like all things in international politics bluffs work, if the "target" is ready and willing to believe the bluffs and is unable to "call" them - Bangladesh is now in the unfortunate position of not being able to call these bluffs.

Impacts of change of government in India on Bangladesh

India is holding its elections but it will be a month before anyone can get to know the results - so vast is the country, so massive its electorate and so many its constituencies. Who forms the government in India is of concern to everyone including countries like USA, China and Russia, but smaller states of the South Asian region, including Bangladesh, are more than worried because the impact of the change is more direct and immediate.

On the surface, politics in India and Bangladesh have many similarities: both are plagued with "dynastic" politics and with corruption, divisiveness, violence and conflict. A more striking similarity is that both polities are dominated by conglomerates/ coalitions of two major parties - in India, the Indian National Congress is a secular centrist party which led the Indian independence struggle and now heads a coalition called the United Progressive Alliance or UPA (comparable, in Bangladesh to the Awami League and its grand alliance); standing in opposition to the Congress and UPA is the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a religious based nationalist party that fronts a loose coalition of parties dubbed the National Democratic Alliance or NDA (comparable, in Bangladesh to the Bangladesh Nationalist Party and its 4 party alliance).

The linkages do not end here but go much deeper. In 1971, India led by Congress with Indira Gandhi as the Prime Minister actively supported the Bangladesh War of Liberation led by the Awami League with Sheikh Mujibur Rahman as its undisputed leader. After that successful intervention which led to the independence of Bangladesh, India and Bangladesh signed a 25 year treaty of friendship. Since then, the Bangladesh Awami League and the Indian National Congress have a close, almost symbiotic relationship with each other; anytime both are in government in their respective states, "cooperation" between both countries increase exponentially. When the BJP is in government in India, such close relationships and cooperation are replaced with more formal inter-state interactions between Bangladesh and India. When the BNP is in government in Bangladesh and the BJP in India, relationships between India and Bangladesh take a frigid, often confrontational turn.

Regardless of whether it is the BJP or the Congress in government, India would want a sympathetic, if not exactly a friendly government in Bangladesh and so, by all counts, calculations and probabilities, as far as India is concerned, the government of choice in Bangladesh is an Awami League government. Were it not for the peculiar coincidence that the Congress coalition was in government in India when elections in Bangladesh took place and now during Indian elections an Awami League government is in place in Bangladesh, Bangladesh could expect active interference, even interventions in its politics by the Indians which could lead to a severe destabilization of Bangladesh and the entire region, already riven by separatism, terrorism, conflict and violence of various types and magnitudes.

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Let India come to Chittagong port: Bangladesh official

Chittagong, April 26: A revamped and modernised Chittagong port, Bangladesh's largest, is ready for providing transit facilities to India and others, an official has said.


"Our port is more efficient now and has the capacity to handle the transit cargo of neighbouring countries," Chittagong Port Authority chairman Commodore R.U. Ahmed told media Saturday on the port's 122nd anniversary.

"If transit is allowed to neighbouring countries we will not face any difficulty in handling their cargo," he said.

He said he was supporting the idea in principle and it was for the political authority to take a decision.

India and other South Asian nations have sought access to Chittagong port because of its location in order to cut shipping costs.

It is among the major bilateral economic issues between Bangladesh and India that also seeks land transit to reach out to its north-eastern region.

However, the port is congested thanks mainly due to lack of adequate dredging of the harbour area.

Sixty-two ships were stranded there earlier this week after a ship capsized and blocked access to others.
 
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If India can have transit facility to Chittagong Port then so should China. We should also get transit facilities to Nepal and Bhutan. India would not allow this because they are dishonest and despicable.
 
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If India can have transit facility to Chittagong Port then so should China. We should also get transit facilities to Nepal and Bhutan. India would not allow this because they are dishonest and despicable.

Exactly bro. If we ask for it than it's security issue but for India it's business. Hypocrite. I don't want see Indians in our shore even if it's good for us......It will be almost like inviting crocodile by cutting a canal.

We should let china build naval base at the chitagong port like pakistan did in Gwadar.......That way India will be surrounded by three front.:smokin:
 
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India Welcomes FDI from Bangladesh

London, Apr.9 (ANI): The recent liberalisation of RBI removing the ban on Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) from Bangladesh may lead towards a stable and secure trade relation between India and Bangladesh. India’s decision to welcome investment from Bangladesh also, raises an expectation that foreign trade policies of both the countries will get further liberalized.

The India-Bangladesh border stretches 4,096 kilometer. The two countries are geographically as also culturally linked to each other. It is interesting to note that roughly 161 million people of Bangladesh depend on number of articles of day to day use produced in India. With the recent announcement by RBI the residents of Bangladesh will now have an opportunity to play a participative role in strengthening the economic activity in India as also in improving the supply side of the goods required by them.

Recent Steps taken by India in FDI with Bangladesh

The permission to make foreign direct investments in India by individuals and companies resident in Bangladesh, in the shares of Indian companies is a welcome development and is likely to be beneficial for both the countries.

As per the current FDI framework, a person who is a citizen of Bangladesh or an entity incorporated in Bangladesh may, with the prior approval of the Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB) of the Government of India (GOI), purchase shares and convertible debentures of an Indian company under Foreign Direct Investment Scheme, subject to the terms and conditions specified in the FEMA, which is subject to amendment from time to time.

Recent Deal after the removal of ban on Bangladesh FDI India Welcomes FDI from Bangladesh

The recent liberalisation of RBI removing the ban on Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) from Bangladesh may lead towards a stable and secure trade relation between India and Bangladesh. India’s decision to welcome investment from Bangladesh also, raises an expectation that foreign trade policies of both the countries will get further liberalized.

The India-Bangladesh border stretches 4,096 kilometer. The two countries are geographically as also culturally linked to each other. It is interesting to note that roughly 161 million people of Bangladesh depend on number of articles of day to day use produced in India. With the recent announcement by RBI the residents of Bangladesh will now have an opportunity to play a participative role in strengthening the economic activity in India as also in improving the supply side of the goods required by them. (ANI)

India Welcomes FDI from Bangladesh
 
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India-Bangladesh Relations: Are the Carrots Working?

On 31 July, India's TATA announced its withdrawal from a US$3 billion investment plan for Bangladesh. After four years of negotiations with the Indian conglomerate, the Bangladeshi government failed to reach a consensus with TATA executives over the gas supply assurance. Following the announcement, Bangladeshi industry has been quite vocal in blaming the government for losing such a lucrative deal.

The TATA investment plan, if it had succeeded, would have been bigger than the total FDI Bangladesh has seen since its independence. Declining the largest infusion of FDI ever attempted in Bangladesh will have a negative impact on potential investors, agree Bangladeshi economists. The lack of interest on Bangladesh's part in the deal, obviously, stems from a deeper reason than a purely economic one.

Bangladesh, which earlier was largely a pro-India neighbour, is now systematically cutting off its ties with New Delhi. Today, Bangladesh has better relations, both economic and military, with China and has even been accused of supporting Pakistan in many anti-Indian activities. Clearly there is something wrong going on with Indian foreign policy towards Bangladesh. It is therefore, time to look at Indian strategy and question how India can improve its relations with Dhaka.

Over the past few years, India has made many attempts to improve its relations with Bangladesh and has offered many deals that were far more beneficial to Bangladesh than India. However, more often than not, these deals have been rebuffed by Dhaka. The best example of such an offer was the proposed FTA (free trade agreement) between India and Bangladesh, according to which, Bangladesh would have been able to trade with India without trade restrictions both nations place on other countries. India has similar FTAs with Sri Lanka and Bhutan which have been quite advantageous for those countries.

A recent study by the World Bank has explicitly stated that a FTA with India would benefit Bangladesh, while for India, the gains were small. It explained that for Bangladesh the consumer gain from such an agreement would prove significantly beneficial while India, on purely economic terms, is better off following a non-biased tariff policy towards all countries. However, Bangladesh continues to avoid the topic of FTA, seeking instead a multilateral framework under SAARC. Such a framework, however, may not even take off given Indo-Pak problems.

Even on the FDI front, TATA is not a stand-alone case. India currently has at least three major commercial projects in Bangladesh in the fields of pharmaceuticals and recycling plastic and metal scraps that are facing regulatory difficulties. Further, as of November 2007, India has removed prohibition on investment in India by citizens of Bangladesh, yet no reciprocal gesture has been made by Dhaka. Bangladesh also still refuses to allow the laying of a gas pipeline between Myanmar and India through Bangladesh, which would have not only given it an opportunity to earn revenue through transit fees but also utilize some of the gas transported through the country.

Meanwhile, Bangladesh continues to invite other countries, especially China to take on oil and gas exploration in its territory. In 2007, a Bangladeshi envoy to China invited Beijing to develop its oil sector. Further, in July 2008, Bangladesh awarded rights to offshore exploration in the Bay of Bengal to two US- and Ireland-based companies, despite the blocks being under dispute between India, Bangladesh and Myanmar.

The refusing of India's goodwill gestures is not limited only to commerce. In November, 2007 when Bangladesh was wrecked byCyclone Sidr, India offered to lend IAF helicopters for search and rescue operations. Dhaka, however, turned down this offer and instead sought US help and consequently, two US Navy amphibious assault ships were deployed to Bangladesh.

There can be many reasons for Dhaka refusing such gestures from India, even at the cost of apparent national interest. Foremost among these is the volatile domestic politics of Dhaka that has bogged the government down, lest it be accused of being "India-friendly." It can be also argued that Bangladesh feeling insecure towards it huge encircling neighbour, is likely to seek help from other countries in an attempt to thwart any possible threat India may pose towards it. Bangladesh could also well be playing the age-old diplomacy game of pitting one big nation against its rival, in this case India against China.

Whatever the reasons might be, the bottom-line for New Delhi is that it is not getting results on the Bangladesh front. Only, when India increases its economic presence in Bangladesh and develops closer relations, can it address the much more important issues of security and trade. India has to approach Dhaka with much more aggressiveness and a greater sense of urgency.

Maybe it is time for India to change its strategy. What India requires is a closer look at what other tools of international relations India can use to get Dhaka to the negotiating table. If the carrots do not work, is it time to look for a stick?


Articles #2644 , India-Bangladesh Relations: Are the Carrots Working?



Carrot diplomacy will not work on Bangladesh which worked enormously for India with other south asian countries including Myanmar. India needs to understand that. Bangladesh will always work under equal terms.... :whistle::whistle:
 
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Exactly bro. If we ask for it than it's security issue but for India it's business. Hypocrite. I don't want see Indians in our shore even if it's good for us......It will be almost like inviting crocodile by cutting a canal.

We should let china build naval base at the chitagong port like pakistan did in Gwadar.......That way India will be surrounded by three front.:smokin:

Bangladesh is building 10 bln dollar port bro not 250 mln dollar Gadwar port. And the port will be built from our own resource....
It will be the biggest port in South Asia. :enjoy:
 
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India Bangladesh friendship on equal terms is a good idea imo, minus the influx of illegals. That will help in stabilizing South-Asia and keep outer powers (China etc. ) at bay.

But Bangladesh should also not forget that there is a huge Bangladeshi/Chakma mess that India is handling on their behalf, which ones pushed back can bring entire Bangladesh to its knees. Not that I'm threatening.
 
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But Bangladesh should also not forget that there is a huge Bangladeshi/Chakma mess that India is handling on their behalf, which ones pushed back can bring entire Bangladesh to its knees. Not that I'm threatening.

india is not handling anything on be half of Bangladesh. India created, sponsored, armed Chakma terrorists. Just like india created LTTE terrorist group.

About bring Bangladesh to its knees, is actually tried by india for last 30 years did not succeed. In fact wish of bringing Bangladesh to its knee is real indian goal. Rest of friendly talk is deceptive suger coat.
 
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india is not handling anything on be half of Bangladesh. India created, sponsored, armed Chakma terrorists. Just like india created LTTE terrorist group.

About bring Bangladesh to its knees, is actually tried by india for last 30 years did not succeed. In fact wish of bringing Bangladesh to its knee is real indian goal. Rest of friendly talk is deceptive suger coat.

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Wait wait!!

There are NO armed Chakma rebels, yet.

They are only in refugee camps scattered around NE India. And whether they stay their or move back to Bangladesh to reclaim :guns: their ancestral lands, totally depends on the Bangladeshi govt., not us.

Remind you there are 3million Bengali illegals too, as an added bonus.
 
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