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India and Pakistan are united by language and history, divided by commerce

No bt these are conditon for being a pushtoon

IF a pushtoon become kafir then he's no more a pushtoon

so Shahrukh khan at present is nt a muslim.so he's nt a pushtoon

yess Salman khan,aamir khan are pushtoon and muslims too.

Why is that written in Koran?..or GOD personally told you that in your ear?
 
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Funny, you should mention this...

Fearful Muslims adopt Hindu IDs - thestar.com

Analysts say many Muslims from all socio-economic backgrounds are quietly hiding their religious affiliation.
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"Ten years ago, when my house and land in the village was eaten up by a river and I came to Calcutta in search of a job, almost all street shops and restaurants in the city refused to employ me because I was a Muslim," Mollah said.

"Some said their Hindu customers could refuse to eat at their restaurants if a Muslim worked there," he said.

"But I met a Muslim man who worked under a Hindu identity to supply water to restaurants. I followed his advice, picked up a Hindu identity and soon an upper-class Hindu employed me to run a food stall."

Nearly all of Mollah's customers are Hindus and he fears his business would suffer disastrously if his customers found out he is a Muslim.

I agree with this, but this is something rare because in Gujarat if go on Highways, Express ways you will find only Muslim hotels. And BTW, whole those Bharati Hindus go there. Although they would go to those hotels which serve non veg whether its own by Muslim or Bharati Hindu.
 
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What are you always arguing about? And I notice its always Pakistanis that bring up skin tone, for what ever reason.

The first line of the original article written by an Indian and posted by an Indian talks about a skin whitening cream.

I agree with this, but this is something rare because in Gujarat if go on Highways, Express ways you will find only Muslim hotels. And BTW, whole those Bharati Hindus go there. Although they would go to those hotels which serve non veg whether its own by Muslim or Bharati Hindu.

Fair enough. As I noted in the other thread, discrimination against Muslims in India seems to vary widely; some states are better than others. I was merely responding to the HBS guy to show that the same happens in reverse in India.
 
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I just don't get how you can be racist to a member of your own race, because they have a different skin tone. Wouldn't that be "colourist" rather than "racist"?


Yes my friend. Just like there are people in East Asia that like rounder eyes and not too squinty, there are people in S. Asia that have insecurities about their skin tone. But people like to blow this out of proportion and kick dirt to other peoples faces on the internet to make themselves have some more self satisfaction. And build on there small egos over the internet.
 
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Even I am sure Hans are very diverse with many sub divisions, but we still cant tell them a part.

Honestly, I can't tell the difference either. If you put a Cantonese and a Shanghainese person in front of me, put them in the same clothing, etc. Then I wouldn't be able to tell the difference, until they started talking.

(After they start talking of course, it would be very easy to differentiate between the different dialects).

Yes my friend. Just like there are people in East Asia that like rounder eyes and not too squinty, there are people in S. Asia that have insecurities about their skin tone. But people like to blow this out of proportion and kick dirt to other peoples face on the internet to make themselves have some self satisfaction. And build on there small ego over the internet.

Never seen much of an issue with that personally, though I am sure it does exist. I think I've run across some Youtube videos to that effect (Koreans and Japanese bashing each other over the shape of their eyes) but it's quite rare.
 
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Fair enough. As I noted in the other thread, discrimination against Muslims in India seems to vary widely; some states are better than others. I was merely responding to the HBS guy to show that the same happens in reverse in India.

Thats the reason, I agreed with your article otherwise would have asked better source or like Pakistan use to. Acceptance is still better than ignorance.

But you can still not ignore the other aspects of the same article. I live in State and this makes me to believe that this is not the general trend.
 
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Honestly, I can't tell the difference either. If you put a Cantonese and a Shanghainese person in front of me, put them in the same clothing, etc. Then I wouldn't be able to tell the difference, until they started talking.

The Han people named themselves after the Han empire right? Is it like as if Indians just stop calling themselves Punjabi, Tamil, Bengali, etc, etc, etc and just start calling themselves Indians first and nothing else? Wasn't there much diversity from South and North China before the Han empire?

You would think in this empire there would be many diverse groups of people..

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Oh please. Karin Brulliard and Rama Lakshmi are not Pakistani names.

This article is written by non-pakistanis.

I've said before that we cannot account for the nationality of the author or her correspondent, however the source of the article is Lahore, Pakistan from Washington Post's Pakistani correspondent.
 
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I know that, to be honest I find it quite hard to tell East Asians apart as well, unless they start talking their native language, etc. You can take the "All Look Same" test and see for yourself (no email address required, just make up a fake name).

I just don't know how someone can be racist to a member of your own race, because they have a different skin tone. Wouldn't that be "colourist" rather than "racist"?

CD, there is no genetic disparity between south asian population except Tibetans, Parsis, Pashtuns and Baluch. So it's indeed funny when someone claims to be of different race because he/she has lighter tone of skin.
 
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The Han people named themselfs after the Han empire right? Is it like as if Indians just stop calling themselves Punjabi, Tamil, Bengali, etc and just start calling themselves Indians first and nothing else? Wasn't there much diversity from South and North China before the Han empire?

Yes. "Han" is a very fluid concept.

Once upon a time, the modern-day Southerners, Northerners, Easterners etc. were not considered Han. As outsiders started to assimilate into the Han culture, they became known as "Han" as well.

I am from Southern China (Guangdong) with Hakka ancestry. There was a period of time when I would not have been considered "Han Chinese".

Although, there seems to be very little genetic variation between different subgroups of Han. I read that the same applies to India, i.e. there is not much genetic variation between North and South.
 
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People looking for Pakistani names please refer to the Pak tribune article I posted in 2nd or 3rd page.
 
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Aren't race and skin colour two different things though?

Han Chinese for instance, come in a variety of skin tones, from heavily tanned (Picture of Jackie Chan) to very pale (Picture of Zhang Ziyi).

Nobody would ever say that these two are of a "different race" though?

It is a Pakistani video. They are the ones claiming to be "Pure Aryans" and a different race from Indians. So they should answer your question.
 
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