India already started negotiations fpr second order of Rafale

[c.t.ramesh]

Then another indian air force always incident Russian jets then why we develop own aircraft are airfoil shape because you are useless your brain only pickles like that you didn't maintenance properly so accident also natural. So your side totally weak. Russian weapon greater then any other nation even american weapon also waste Russian only good also less maintenance ,lower cost, quick handle easily suitable for all weather climate. American weapon totally waste even testing M777 howitzer broken. But always insult as Russian weapon. Time on coming that day you will be understand Russ only true friend india. American only business even high cost but totally scrap items sold to third nation. That item purchase lobby as commission based so we all cheaters people money also you kill ordinary and army person this is a real. I hate american national weapons . We develop own or Russian weapon only suitable for indian soil.o ther are waste

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

We dont need mediocre sweetish fighter when Rafael is out there,i don't see any chance for gripen unless some backside payments happened just as in case of Bofors.

The Indian government scrapped the MMRCA and decided to buy a handful only.
The real deal is the single engine project.

The IAF seems to be eagerly awaiting a decision to buy Gripen.

 

[Vergennes]

Rafael are totally waste product even mig 21 better as only political reason india buy this waste scrap item su35 more better then this scrap craft. 3 su35 purchase this amount single piece price. Also engine lower then f4 tom cat.

Learn how to write correctly Rafale before spreading such nonsense nom de Dieu !

 

[TheBlackCoat]

I will believe it when I see it

What do you doubt?

 

[wiseone2]

What do you doubt?

India buying 36 Rafale for $3.2 billion

 

[TheBlackCoat]

India buying 36 Rafale for $3.2 billion

Dassault is building 2 Airbases in India for RAFALEs. Each of those airbases can accommodate 2 squadrons each. So it is logical that India would procure at least another 2 squadrons. Since the earlier deal had already covered the base upgrade, weapons, spares etc. the follow-on deal would only deal with the fighters. Unit cost of RAFALE is ~$100 million.

 

[wiseone2]

Dassault is building 2 Airbases in India for RAFALEs. Each of those airbases can accommodate 2 squadrons each. So it is logical that India would procure at least another 2 squadrons. Since the earlier deal had already covered the base upgrade, weapons, spares etc. the follow-on deal would only deal with the fighters. Unit cost of RAFALE is ~$100 million.

Dassault is not selling India - 36 Rafale for $3.2 billion. They will charge more.
What part of that don't you get ?

 

[TheBlackCoat]

Dassault is not selling India - 36 Rafale for $3.2 billion. They will charge more.
What part of that don't you get ?

This is from your own news report. I did not know that France was jacking up the price for the follow-on order. Makes sense. More opportunity for the US fighters.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-agreement-for-36-Rafales/article14995775.ece

The basic cost of the aircraft is about €91 million or about Rs. 680 crore and little over Rs.1600 crore per aircraft for the whole deal.

 

[wiseone2]

This is from your own news report. I did not know that France was jacking up the price for the follow-on order. Makes sense. More opportunity for the US fighters.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/India-France-ink-€7.87-billion-agreement-for-36-Rafales/article14995775.ece

The basic cost of the aircraft is about €91 million or about Rs. 680 crore and little over Rs.1600 crore per aircraft for the whole deal.

American fighters are not going anywhere
Indian politicians have passed on the idea

 

[TheBlackCoat]

American fighters are not going anywhere
Indian politicians have passed on the idea

What other choices do you have? American fighters are the only realistic options. You should be grateful that we are willing to sell you the fighters.

The Indian government scrapped the MMRCA and decided to buy a handful only.
The real deal is the single engine project.

The IAF seems to be eagerly awaiting a decision to buy Gripen.
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US has already made it clear that the US engines would only be part of the US fighter deal.

 

[wiseone2]

What other choices do you have? American fighters are the only realistic options. You should be grateful that we are willing to sell you the fighters.

Right now it is Rafale and Sukhois

I don't think forty year old F-16s is anything to be grateful about especially the price points

 

[illusion8]

Then another indian air force always incident Russian jets then why we develop own aircraft are airfoil shape because you are useless your brain only pickles like that you didn't maintenance properly so accident also natural. So your side totally weak. Russian weapon greater then any other nation even american weapon also waste Russian only good also less maintenance ,lower cost, quick handle easily suitable for all weather climate. American weapon totally waste even testing M777 howitzer broken. But always insult as Russian weapon. Time on coming that day you will be understand Russ only true friend india. American only business even high cost but totally scrap items sold to third nation. That item purchase lobby as commission based so we all cheaters people money also you kill ordinary and army person this is a real. I hate american national weapons . We develop own or Russian weapon only suitable for indian soil.o ther are waste

Ummm..rafale is a French product.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I will count the chickens when they hatch.

Exactly. Going by Indian track record in regards to the procurement of defense equipment, this was the first thought that came to my mind.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What other choices do you have? American fighters are the only realistic options. You should be grateful that we are willing to sell you the fighters.



US has already made it clear that the US engines would only be part of the US fighter deal.

The US has already approved selling GE-F414 to India for use in Gripen.
GE has already approved building GE-F414 in India as well (with about 60% Indian content)

 

[Zen0]

Yeah same relic thats in the single engine vendor program to replace rafale induction ....height of stupidity

The mig29 is a soviet era fighter , it can barely be considered as a 4th gen fighter. Mig29s twin rd33 is a relic comparison to Rafaels twin m88 engine. At most migs engine is better then f16 , which too is obsolete.

GE engine of 1980s is a not a relic for tejas and gripen but the new upgraded rd 93 and rd 93 ma are relics lol

Tejus's general electric engine can never go head to head with Rafael or su30mki , Tajus is built to replace the obsolete migs in the Indian air force, the GE engines were temporaray necessity till the kavari engine program completed. The program facing slow progress & the need to replace the migs India is interested in the r33 which now has more thrust than the American GE f404 , the Russian deal is purely over cost not performance , as India can still used the US super hornets f414 engine, but costs twice as much.

Thunder and gripen share similar philosophy yet while gripen to indians is 6th gen fighter and thunder a relic

And my great grandfather's moped is faster than kawasaki ninja , because both have 2 wheels and transports people.