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India: a global hub for warship building

could you please stop day dreaming? everything about your lovely vikrant AC is on paper ONLY. the "global hub for warship building" still couldn't build any sonar/radar/engine for warships?

let me tell you the truth -- india even could not build the fire control computer on those warships, the main gun is also another issue, not to mention the 710 style gun used on 054a/052c.

show me something that you have on hand, or please just walk away.



Larsen & Toubro (L&T) is an active enabler of India's indigenisation drive for defence equipment and systems. Its track record in the design, development and manufacture of integrated multi-disciplinary defence systems has led to its acceptance as a partner to the Indian armed forces and the Defence Research & Development Organization.

The government of India has granted L&T industrial licences for the design, development and manufacture of systems and sub-systems associated with:

* Warships, submarines and weapon platforms
* Electronic warfare systems, radar and sonar
* Combat vehicles
* Arms and armaments
* Airborne assemblies, UAVs and helicopters

L&T is geared to supply defence equipment and systems to international companies who secure large defence contracts, thereby enabling them meet their offset requirements.

Ship-based weapon launcher systems

L&T's product range, built through in-house R&D, includes ship-based weapon launcher and fire-control systems, including:

* Triple and twin-tube launchers for light and heavy-weight torpedoes
* Naval multi-barrel rocket launcher systems with stabilised platform

* Anti-ship missile launch systems

The salient features of the launch platform systems, designed and developed by L&T, include modular launch systems capable of azimuth and elevation movements, silent-mode operation, auto-leveling, all terrain operability, all-electric and electro-hydraulic servo drives, advanced electronic controls and ergonomic man-machine interfaces.

Naval engineering systems and supplies:yahoo:

L&T supplies a range of naval systems, including:

* Controllable pitch propeller systems
* Steering gears for warships
* Fin stabilisers for warships
* Helicopter landing grid and traversing systems
* Winch and handling systems for active / passive towed array sonar
* Anti-torpedo decoy sonar systems with customised handling systems
* Wet end integration and installation
* Specialised hull fabrication


Radar systems

L&T supplies radar systems for defence applications, including::victory:

* High-power tracking radar systems (C&S band) for tracking of satellite launch and sounding rockets
* Radar subsystems such as antennas and pedestals with control system; high-voltage transmitters with pulse coding, digital receivers and signal processing; radar consoles and displays; and associated software

L&T has a unique ship-motion simulation test facility for naval systems such as radar antennas and have supplied mobile platforms for ground-based radars and ship motion (roll and pitch) stabilised platform for naval radar antennas.

Defence electronics systems

L&T designs and develops various defence electronics systems, including fire control systems, servo drives, embedded systems, man-machine interfaces, high-availability systems, custom-built electronic products for defence applications, and large, complex and multi-disciplinary integrated systems. We also design and manufacture quality avionics products for military aircraft.

Land-based weapon launch systems

L&T also manufactures land-based weapon launch systems including:

* Multi-mode universal missile launcher
* Multi-barrel rocket launcher
* Anti-tank guided missile carrier
* Quick reaction surface-to-air missile launcher
* Tactical battlefield missile launchers


L&T supplies missile systems and sub-systems, refurbishment / upgrade, ground support systems and testing of missiles. The metallic systems and subsystems are manufactured in exotic metals, including titanium, aluminum alloys, aluminum magnesium alloys, 15CdV6, AB2 and maraging steel. The composite systems and sub-systems are made using in-house facilities for design and development of advanced composites, backed-up by computer-aided simulation of multi-layered composite structures, characterisation of reinforcements and matrices, coupon testing, design and development of tooling, prototype manufacture, advanced nondestructive testing.

L&T manufactures composite air frames, missile transport launch canisters, nozzle liners and radome sections.
:taz:

Shipbuilding and repair

L&T is currently executing major orders for heavy lift cargo vessels at its ship building facility located at its state-of-the-art integrated manufacturing complex at Hazira Works on India’s west coast. In addition, a shipbuilding and ship-repair yard is being set up near Ennore on India’s east coast for large tonnage vessels of up to 300,000dwt.

L&T plans to venture into construction of warships for the Navy, as well as the Coast Guard.

About L&T

Larsen & Toubro is a $7 billion technology, engineering, manufacturing and construction company with global operations. Its heavy engineering division is recognised as one of the top five heavy-equipment manufacturing organisations in the world.:bounce:

Advanced engineering capabilities are backed by state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in India and the Middle East. Its reputation for reliable performance and timely execution has led to strong international links with customers, process licensors and long-term collaboration partners.

Gets your facts right shchinese stop trooling and ranting.:chilli::chilli:
 
I didn't read your long and colorful post.

you can actually just provide the photos of those indian made radar/sonar/engines that have already been in active service on warships.

if there is none, then how about stop calling yourself "a global hub"?
 
three global hubs for warship building :U.S,s.korea ,japan.
two global hubs for civilship building :s.korea,china
 
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I didn't read your long and colorful post.

you can actually just provide the photos of those indian made radar/sonar/engines that have already been in active service on warships.

if there is none, then how about stop calling yourself "a global hub"?

Stop BS man...


INS Dunagiri Frigate also fitted with HUMSA NG sonar.
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I didn't read your long and colorful post.

you can actually just provide the photos of those indian made radar/sonar/engines that have already been in active service on warships.

if there is none, then how about stop calling yourself "a global hub"?


Don't take it otherwise, there is a famous English proverb "Yellow, yellow dirty fellow". The colors are there so we can highlight the points and members can go through them easily and saves time in lengthy reading.
First you trolls, as always i proves you wrong you make ****** excuses. Now you are asking for pictures, tomorrow you will ask for video after sometime you will ask me to show it to you at your place. Why should i care if you are not ready to listen. get real men stop ranting and trolling. :bounce:

BTW, this post is not colorful. :chilli::victory::victory:
 
But for the benefit of serious members:

HUMSA


The state-of-art ship-borne sonar HUMSA, designed and developed by Naval Physical and Oceanographic Laboratory (NPOL), Kochi and productionised by Bharat Electronics Ltd., Bangalore is a standard fit for naval ships. Twelve systems have been productionised.

Indian designed and built systems the HUMSA-NG (Hull Mounted Sonar Array – new generation)



LRDE has a variety of radar systems in production as well as development. The publicly known projects include:

1. Indra series (2D radars):

Over 36 Indra-1 and Indra-2 gapfilling and 2D radars for air surveillance in service with the Indian Army & Air Force. 90 Km range vs. small fighter target & over 100 target TWS in latest version ie Indra - 2 PC (Pulse Compression).

2. 3D CAR- Central Acquisition Radar, 150-200 km range against fighter target, 150 targets TWS, over 9 ordered by Indian Air Force & Navy. More orders likely from both services. Initial orders, 7 from the IAF (Rohini) and 2 from the Navy (Revati). First Rohini handed over in 2008.

3. BFSR-SR - Battlefield Surveillance Radar Short Range - over 1100 ordered and already delivered to the Indian Army. Several units exported as well. Latest variant integrated with Thermal imager developed by allied laboratory, for passive surveillance.

4.Battery Location Radar - BLR- Rajendra. Fire control radar for Akash SAM system. 3D radar, can TWS 20-64 targets, 85 km range (against small fighter target), Passive Phased Array System. Eight have been ordered for 2 squadrons of the Akash SAM by the IAF. Several more orders likely from the IAF and IA.

5. Weapon Locating Radar: Rajendra derivative, for locating and tracking mortars, rockets and artillery shells. Considered to be superior to AN/TPQ-37. 40 km range. 28 ordered by the Indian Army.

6. Medium range BFSR- Medium range version for battlefield surveillance & Arty correction. In development.

7. Multi Function radar: MFCR- developed in cooperation with Thales, an AESA system for the Ballistic Missile system's fire control. Range 400- 500 km against small targets. In development, to be fielded by 2010-2012.

8. Medium Power radar. An AESA system being developed for the IAF, will be able to detect small targets at ranges > 300 Km. Several systems required by IAF.

9. Aslesha 3D Low Level Light Weight Radar: 50 Km, ranged, light weight semi active radar developed for the IAF, for mountainous terrain. 20 being delivered to the IAF. First prototype publicly displayed in 2008. Production to commence 2009-2010.

10. Bharani Low Level Light Weight Radar: 40 Km, 2D, 100 target TWS radar developed for gap filling for the IAF and IA. Several units on order.

11. Long Range Tracking Radar: LRTR is the primary AESA sensor for the Ballistic Missile Defence System. Able to track missiles at ranges from 500 km upwards and at speeds from 4-5 Km/S, the LRTR is an advanced Indo-Israeli derivative of the GreenPine radar, and to be manufactured in India.

12.AESA FCR: Active Array system for the Light Combat Aircraft & possible future applications. Currently in development.

13. SAR/ISAR radars: SAR and ISAR radars for unmanned aerial vehicles. Currently in trials.

14. SV-2000 Naval surveillance radar: Slotted Array radar system developed for naval applications for Ka-31 and DO-228 usage. Over a dozen units on order from Bharat Electronics Limited.

15. 3 Primary radars & IFF for 3 AEW &C: Primary S-Band AESA radar for the DRDO Airborne Surveillance project. Range of around 200-300 km (dependent on mode) vs. small size manouevering fighter target. To be productionized by 2012. Medium range systens (6-8) to follow.

Several other projects have been delivered including LCA subsystems and radar C3I for the IAF.



The BEL RASHMI (Radar Aid for InSHore and Harbor Manoeuvring in I-band)
The BEL RANI (Radar Aid for Navigation in I-band)
 
Stop BS man...


INS Dunagiri Frigate also fitted with HUMSA NG sonar.
c36d6d64f1094ac3d69d06981c3f4c16.jpg

this is a 1960s era warship, fitted with a 1960s era radar. good for you.

when we say "radar" in the context of modern navy, it means "active phased array radar system", today is 18th Dec. 2009, not 1969.

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 AM ----------

btw, I will be happy to eat my keyboard if india can develop and deploy it own active phased array radar system in the next 10 years.

:rofl::rofl:
 
this is a 1960s era warship, fitted with a 1960s era radar. good for you.

when we say "radar" in the context of modern navy, it means "active phased array radar system", today is 18th Dec. 2009, not 1969.

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 AM ----------

btw, I will be happy to eat my keyboard if india can develop and deploy it own active phased array radar system in the next 10 years.

:rofl::rofl:

Start eating your keyboard now. Go and read up on India's AAD and PAD missile programmes which were developed and tested in India. Take little bites at a time and if your keyboard was made in China please check for contamination. We wouldn't want you to be spitting poisonous crap on this forum. Just your usual crap suffices for now :coffee:
 
this is a 1960s era warship, fitted with a 1960s era radar. good for you.

when we say "radar" in the context of modern navy, it means "active phased array radar system", today is 18th Dec. 2009, not 1969.

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 AM ----------

btw, I will be happy to eat my keyboard if india can develop and deploy it own active phased array radar system in the next 10 years.

:rofl::rofl:

India can do it if it purchase the blue print from the US. Once India has purchase the technology, than it can build it. It doesn't matter if you develop it from scratch, steal it, reverse engineering, or buy the blue print, as long as you have it and can build more, you can develop and deploy.
 
this is a 1960s era warship, fitted with a 1960s era radar. good for you.

when we say "radar" in the context of modern navy, it means "active phased array radar system", today is 18th Dec. 2009, not 1969.

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 AM ----------

btw, I will be happy to eat my keyboard if india can develop and deploy it own active phased array radar system in the next 10 years.

:rofl::rofl:

u r 1 such big fool.do u know wat an aesa is..a radar with a no of modern TR modules is known as aesa radar...revathi employs TR modules and it is being tested on old ships before goin into the navys cutting edge p-28 stealth asw corvettes which are going to enter service by 2012 so it is not aold one.

The Indian variant is the 3D CAR, a medium range surveillance radar for Akash at Group level, intended to provide high mobility and comprehensive high and low level coverage. The Polish versions, are the TRS series of S Band mobile radars such as the TRS-17 and TRS-19.

India has further developed its 3D CAR into all new locally produced ROHINI & REVATHI variants. The ROHINI is the Indian Air Force specific variant whereas the REVATHI is for the Indian Navy. These replace the original joint development items such as the planar array antenna with new locally developed ones which are more capable than the original design.

he Central Acquisition Radar (CAR) is a medium range high-resolution 3-dimensional surveillance radar. The Central Acquisition Radar has been designed by LRDE, a DRDO laboratory, and is produced by a joint venture between BEL, Larsen & Toubro and Astra Microwave. The radar employs a planar array antenna and provides simultaneous multi-beam coverage. It can handle 150 targets in track while scan mode.

Whereas 2 REVATHI variants were ordered by the Indian Navy for their P-28 Corvette program. Given that the Indian Navy intends to have up to 4-6 P-28 Corvettes, further orders are likely from the Navy as well.

Central Acquisition Radar (3D-CAR) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and multi beams are possible with large no of TR modules.
 
when indian feel shamed for lacking the ability to design and build aesa, they start the old personal attacking.

shame on you guys. :disagree::disagree:

if you are unhappy with the truth, then work harder and get the aesa done.
 
when indian feel shamed for lacking the ability to design and build aesa, they start the old personal attacking.

shame on you guys. :disagree::disagree:

if you are unhappy with the truth, then work harder and get the aesa done.

Go read the posts above. I suggest that you get it translated in whatever language you speak. I don't know whether google has a gibberish translator just yet. Now take your spanked butt and go and find some credible info to attack India with. Until then go play with your marbles little man :cheers:
 
Go read the posts above. I suggest that you get it translated in whatever language you speak. I don't know whether google has a gibberish translator just yet. Now take your spanked butt and go and find some credible info to attack India with. Until then go play with your marbles little man :cheers:

No matter which language you or your fellow indian use, india still can not design and build such radar. This is a well known facts which have been discussed on this forum for long.

Maybe, there are some projects running in your labs, it is fine, but that is not something you have on hand.

currently, india do not have the ability to build and deploy such radar on its own.
 
No matter which language you or your fellow indian use, india still can not design and build such radar. This is a well known facts which have been discussed on this forum for long.

Maybe, there are some projects running in your labs, it is fine, but that is not something you have on hand.

currently, india do not have the ability to build and deploy such radar on its own.

And what is your source for this pray tell? Or is it something you found in your fortune cookie last night? Again I suggest that you read the last few posts before striking (or eating) your keyboard :no:
 
Larsen & Toubro (L&T) is an active enabler of India's indigenisation drive for defence equipment and systems. Its track record in the design, development and manufacture of integrated multi-disciplinary defence systems has led to its acceptance as a partner to the Indian armed forces and the Defence Research & Development Organization.

The government of India has granted L&T industrial licences for the design, development and manufacture of systems and sub-systems associated with:

* Warships, submarines and weapon platforms
* Electronic warfare systems, radar and sonar
* Combat vehicles
* Arms and armaments
* Airborne assemblies, UAVs and helicopters

L&T is geared to supply defence equipment and systems to international companies who secure large defence contracts, thereby enabling them meet their offset requirements.

Ship-based weapon launcher systems

L&T's product range, built through in-house R&D, includes ship-based weapon launcher and fire-control systems, including:

* Triple and twin-tube launchers for light and heavy-weight torpedoes
* Naval multi-barrel rocket launcher systems with stabilised platform

* Anti-ship missile launch systems

The salient features of the launch platform systems, designed and developed by L&T, include modular launch systems capable of azimuth and elevation movements, silent-mode operation, auto-leveling, all terrain operability, all-electric and electro-hydraulic servo drives, advanced electronic controls and ergonomic man-machine interfaces.

Naval engineering systems and supplies:yahoo:

L&T supplies a range of naval systems, including:

* Controllable pitch propeller systems
* Steering gears for warships
* Fin stabilisers for warships
* Helicopter landing grid and traversing systems
* Winch and handling systems for active / passive towed array sonar
* Anti-torpedo decoy sonar systems with customised handling systems
* Wet end integration and installation
* Specialised hull fabrication


Radar systems

L&T supplies radar systems for defence applications, including::victory:

* High-power tracking radar systems (C&S band) for tracking of satellite launch and sounding rockets
* Radar subsystems such as antennas and pedestals with control system; high-voltage transmitters with pulse coding, digital receivers and signal processing; radar consoles and displays; and associated software

L&T has a unique ship-motion simulation test facility for naval systems such as radar antennas and have supplied mobile platforms for ground-based radars and ship motion (roll and pitch) stabilised platform for naval radar antennas.

Defence electronics systems

L&T designs and develops various defence electronics systems, including fire control systems, servo drives, embedded systems, man-machine interfaces, high-availability systems, custom-built electronic products for defence applications, and large, complex and multi-disciplinary integrated systems. We also design and manufacture quality avionics products for military aircraft.

Land-based weapon launch systems

L&T also manufactures land-based weapon launch systems including:

* Multi-mode universal missile launcher
* Multi-barrel rocket launcher
* Anti-tank guided missile carrier
* Quick reaction surface-to-air missile launcher
* Tactical battlefield missile launchers


L&T supplies missile systems and sub-systems, refurbishment / upgrade, ground support systems and testing of missiles. The metallic systems and subsystems are manufactured in exotic metals, including titanium, aluminum alloys, aluminum magnesium alloys, 15CdV6, AB2 and maraging steel. The composite systems and sub-systems are made using in-house facilities for design and development of advanced composites, backed-up by computer-aided simulation of multi-layered composite structures, characterisation of reinforcements and matrices, coupon testing, design and development of tooling, prototype manufacture, advanced nondestructive testing.

L&T manufactures composite air frames, missile transport launch canisters, nozzle liners and radome sections.
:taz:

Shipbuilding and repair

L&T is currently executing major orders for heavy lift cargo vessels at its ship building facility located at its state-of-the-art integrated manufacturing complex at Hazira Works on India’s west coast. In addition, a shipbuilding and ship-repair yard is being set up near Ennore on India’s east coast for large tonnage vessels of up to 300,000dwt.

L&T plans to venture into construction of warships for the Navy, as well as the Coast Guard.

About L&T

Larsen & Toubro is a $7 billion technology, engineering, manufacturing and construction company with global operations. Its heavy engineering division is recognised as one of the top five heavy-equipment manufacturing organisations in the world.:bounce:

Advanced engineering capabilities are backed by state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in India and the Middle East. Its reputation for reliable performance and timely execution has led to strong international links with customers, process licensors and long-term collaboration partners.

Gets your facts right shchinese stop trooling and ranting.:chilli::chilli:


Don't try to mislead others with your so-called future paper plans,

Source ? LINK ? please.

Tell me if thats the case as you stated, why India still need to import

over 70% defence weapons and equipments ?


Defence R&D: What India needs to do February 12, 2009

Speaking at the inaugural seminar of Aero-India 2009 in Bangalore, Defence Minister A K Antony expressed disappointment at the slow pace of indigenisation of defence production. He lamented the fact that even after six decades of Independence, India was continuing to import over 70 per cent of its defence equipment. He said the growth was 'very, very slow.'

The defence R&D and defence production model that India had adopted, did not encourage the participation of private industry, while the government sector came up short of expectations.

Among the major failures are the Main Battle Tank Arjun that has not met some critical general staff requirements of the Indian Army [Images] despite time and cost overruns and the Light Combat Aircraft that still appears to be light years away from operational induction into the Indian Air Force. However, to DRDO's credit, it worked under extremely restrictive technology denial regimes and with a rather low indigenous technology base.

Consequently, the policy of self reliance did not yield substantial gains as India continued to import almost 70 per cent of its defence equipment for over four decades, primarily from the Soviet Union and, later, Russia [Images]. And, if some MiG-21 aircraft and other weapons systems were produced in India, these were manufactured under license and no technology was ever transferred to India, with the result that even though India spent large sums of money on defence imports, the technology base remained where it was.

At present the DRDO is in the process of deliberating upon and implementing the report of the P Rama Rao Committee report that asked DRDO to identify eight to 10 critical areas which best fit its existing human resource, technical capability and established capacity to take up new projects.

Will India's plans for defence modernisation lead to a substantive upgradation of India's defence technology base and manufacturing prowess, or will the country's defence procurement remain mired in disadvantageous buyer-seller, patron-client relationships?

India is likely to spend over $50 billion (about Rs 250,000 crore) on defence acquisitions over the next five years. Among the weapons systems and equipment to be acquired, the big ticket items will include the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya (the Admiral Gorshkov), 126 multi-mission, medium-range combat aircraft, six C-130J Hercules transport aircraft for the Special Forces, eight maritime patrol, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft -- possibly the Boeing 737 P-8I, six Scorpene submarines, and a large number of main battle tanks, 155mm towed and self-propelled artillery howitzers, plus equipment for counter-insurgency operations.

One of the major spin-offs of the Indo-US nuclear agreement is that it has sounded the death knell of the era of defence technology apartheid practiced against India by the US and many of its partners in the West. It will still be a decade or more before the ghosts of technology denial regimes are finally buried. The deeply entrenched bureaucracies in the departments of state, defence and commerce in Washington will take quite some time to they finally accept India as a co-equal partner with whom dual-use technologies can be shared to mutual advantage. US MNCs, which have always taken their bearings from their government's foreign policy leanings, will surely lead the charge and make a beeline for India.

Meanwhile, India too has some growing up of its own to do as the country sheds its suspicions of the past and gradually moves away from the rather overzealous chanting of the mantra of self-reliance towards joint ventures.

While the government continues to retain its monopoly on defence research and development, it is slowly moving away from relying primarily on the public sector for defence production. The revised Defence Procurement Procedure 2008, announced recently, continues to emphasise public-private partnerships and encourages the private sector to enter into defence production -- either on its own or through joint ventures with multi-national defence corporations, which may bring in up to 26 per cent FDI.
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Defence R&D: What India needs to do
 
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