Include Bangladesh into G20: Yunus to Sarkozy

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Before shooting the mouth read the previous posts.

In India poverty has increased because we have adopted a new definition for a person being BPL.

While in other countries the BPL is defined only as the access to Food, in India the new definition emphasizes on Food,Education and Healthcare expenditures.

If we had taken into account only food expenditures, our poverty would have been much less compare to Bangladesh.

Moreover in industries like Garments and leather Bangladeshi tradders get preferential treatment because they are a "Least Developed Country" while Indian Traders dont. So the same poor in your country have an unfair advantage over the same poor in our country.



I can imagine the condition in your $hithole of a country when illegal migrants try to cross over into the same latrine-less country and are even ready to face bullets for that.

I have been trying to be civil here irrespective of the chest thumping of you kids and trying patiently to educate you all. Dont make me show my rough side.

Do not just kept on barking. In every country the measure of poverty is how much they are earning. In bangladesh anyone earn less then 1.25 dollar is considered as poor. Just come up with figure how many is earning less then that. In bangladesh this figure is now 30%. Whatever food, education and health you kept on barking I do believe there are more percentage of people then 37% who earn less then 1.25 dollar a day.

Or come up with a data what is the amount you so called big mouth country considered as poor. Do not forget tendulkar report said that 77% of the indian earn less then .5 dollar a day.

 

[z9-ec]

Read article before posting crap. Dr. younus asked to include 5 developing country including bangladesh and asked to make G20 ... G25.

At present scenario bangladesh has better prospect then pakistan. This year pakistan has been excluded from the next 11 emerging country by citi bank. Literacy rate in bangladesh is better then pakistan. Bangladesh is emerging as the leading RMG makers, pharmaceuticals products maker to shilp builders, to it and software developer and to manufacture other light industry products. Whats about pakistan... almost nothing even its gdp has slow down to 2%. Whereas gdp of bd is expected to grow 8% by 2013 and 10% by 2017. Bd is a diserving candidate for G20 along with nigeria, vietnam, egypt and pakistan/ phillipines.

Yes, Pakistan's growth has slowed down to 2%. Nevertheless, you have no means or basis to predict Pakistan's GDP will not keep on growing. What proof do you have that Pakistan growth will stay at 2%? do you have any guarantees that BD will achieve 8% or even 10% growth? completely ridiculous to keep on bickering about it without sufficient proof. Pakistan on the other hand had managed to achieve 7% growth not so long ago even with the on going WOT. Bad governance along with corruption lead to slow growth with several other factors contributing as hurdles.

In conclusion, Pakistan will not live in a state of oblivion while others seemingly prosper. In no way do I argue that BD is not prospering but to argue that Pakistan will remain as is and you will achieve all the glorious objectives is completely foolish. A wise notion would be for Yunus to consider or suggest BD to join G20 developing bloc not the other one.

 

[Bhairava]

Do not just kept on barking. In every country the measure of poverty is how much they are earning. In bangladesh anyone earn less then 1.25 dollar is considered as poor. Just come up with figure how many is earning less then that. In bangladesh this figure is now 30%. Whatever food, education and health you kept on barking I do believe there are more percentage of people then 37% who earn less then 1.25 dollar a day.

Or come up with a data what is the amount you so called big mouth country considered as poor. Do not forget tendulkar report said that 77% of the indian earn less then .5 dollar a day.

I believe you are an alien with green blood. Show me your blood samples or buzz off

 

[shashank]

This report falls in line 37% of the indian live below poverty line ... and this report has not been validated and it has assumed many if... and should have.

N those who were in the lower income family has also many children... so the poor people might have been more then 37%.

In india 77% of the people live with less then .5 dollar a day... that means in a 5 member family they earn around 36000 rupee a year...10 member family earn 72000 rupee but which is much below poverty line... but still considered as middle income family in the report...so nothing special here...

in bd 30% people live below poverty line with less then 1.5 dollar a day... i think the figure would be much less for .5 dollar a day people.

Oh man. I have seen some of your posts in the cricket thread. I think you are the same guy who did all the calculation about how Bangladesh is going to keep India out of quarterfinals. You came up with lot of theories and calculations the same way you are doing in this thread.
BTW, I have never seen a single post of you in Cricket thread after BD lost. Hope it will not be the case here.

I admire your patriotism, but sometimes it's toomuch.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Umm ok Pakistan is failing??? Yet there are millions of illegal Bangladeshis in Karachi alone. Just a few weeks ago BSF shot down an illegal Bangladeshi trying to sneak into Pakistan. Your GDP growth is increasing but so is Afghanistan's that doesn't make it the next big economic power though. You have to understand that Bangladesh is not important on the international stage yet. You guys are still considered an under developed country with a very low HDI ranking.

I wonder why so many Bangladeshis choose to leave the economic power Bangladesh and sneak into India, which according to you is worse then Bangladesh.

Lol you are considering the biharis as illegal bangladeshis... LMAO.. it is just showing your bigotry and irrationality and is the main reason why bangladeshis kicked the in 1971 and probably baluchis are gonna do the same soon.

What you are kept on barking. I told earlier bangladesh's economy of 2010 is equivalent of pakistan's 2005. But this 5 year difference is quite recoverable. Just look at the literacy rate of pakistan and bangladesh... just see how manufacturing boom is happening and about to happen in bangladesh... what is happening in pakistan... nothing..

N you are talking about importance... you are just ripped of by USA for its strategic goals and as USA needs route to central asia. Other then that what is importance to pakistan. By utilizing that importance your country is causing more damage to the economy then getting any benefit.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Oh man. I have seen some of your posts in the cricket thread. I think you are the same guy who did all the calculation about how Bangladesh is going to keep India out of quarterfinals. You came up with lot of theories and calculations the same way you are doing in this thread.
BTW, I have never seen a single post of you in Cricket thread after BD lost. Hope it will not be the case here.

I admire your patriotism, but sometimes it's toomuch.

Here none of these is my own word but based on tendulkar report. go and see it what is written there.

 

[desioptimist]

Guys, funny that this thread is going on so long. Leave that poor guy. He was kicked out of his own company by his own govt.
In any case It is an opinion of a (eminent) person, not bangladesh govt. They are happy being with LDC and enjoying the low tariff.

But some of the things bd posters have written about bangladesh is damn funny(e.g. being a donor country soon, having more influence than India etc).
Without that, this could have been a more civil debate.

BD GDP is 57th now, thank you, come again.

 

[Bhairava]

Let me try this for the last time with these ostriches who love to bury their head in the sand ;

From the Worldd bank source which takes only Food expendditures into account - Indian Poverty is around 26%. Link

But it is the Revised BPL definition that caused Indian poverty to rise to 37 %.

 

[Bhairava]

Here none of these is my own word but based on tendulkar report. go and see it what is written there.

Why am I sensing that you are just a fanboi with no regard for facts ? According to the WB ( a neutral source) the poverty is 26%.

But Tendulkar committe definitions is specific to India.

God knows what will the poverty rate if the same is applied to Bangladesh.

 

[z9-ec]

Thats dosen't explain why Pakistan is going downhill and Bangladesh is going up?
As Pakistan has apparently got a lot of resources HA. why is pakistan not as rich as saudi arabia or uae?
And Bangladesh is doing better and fact is Pakistan is becoming a failed nation so good luck with that m8..

The bitter truth is that Pakistan along with Bangladesh have not achieved their true potential thus being termed as "Developing" countries.

Bangladesh may well be able to achieve 6% growth this year. However, the argument here is that if you achieve good growth one year does not account to as acceleration of growth every year it is difficult to maintain such growth as has been the case with Pakistan.

Growth requires sufficient infrastructure, energy and other resources in billions of USD to maintain or accelerate growth beyond current levels.

 

[Karachiite]

Lol you are considering the biharis as illegal bangladeshis... LMAO.. it is just showing your bigotry and irrationality and is the main reason why bangladeshis kicked the in 1971 and probably baluchis are gonna do the same soon.

What you are kept on barking. I told earlier bangladesh's economy of 2010 is equivalent of pakistan's 2005. But this 5 year difference is quite recoverable. Just look at the literacy rate of pakistan and bangladesh... just see how manufacturing boom is happening and about to happen in bangladesh... what is happening in pakistan... nothing..

N you are talking about importance... you are just ripped of by USA for its strategic goals and as USA needs route to central asia. Other then that what is importance to pakistan. By utilizing that importance your country is causing more damage to the economy then getting any benefit.

I am talking about Bangladeshis that came illegally to Pakistan way after 1971. They are mostly under 40 years of age. These millions of illegal Bangladeshis work as mostly maids, cooks, fishermen and commit petty crime. They are legit Bangladeshi bengalis and usually live in their Bengali colonies.

And please do not compare yourself with Pakistan or any other country that is not considered a least developed country with massive poverty and is not low on the HDI.

Bangladesh has done better in education, but what really matters is the quality of university graduates, which again we have in droves, and lets face it, no institute in Bangladesh has the quality of labs and research with institutes like NUST, GIK, LUMS and Quaid-e-Azam uni do.
As for the economy, our population are pretty similar but yet Bangladesh has a very tiny GDP. Not to mention a very low GDP Per Capita. I hope Bangladesh continues to prosper but it is laughable how you guys are going wild.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Yes, Pakistan's growth has slowed down to 2%. Nevertheless, you have no means or basis to predict Pakistan's GDP will not keep on growing. What proof do you have that Pakistan growth will stay at 2%? do you have any guarantees that BD will achieve 8% or even 10% growth? completely ridiculous to keep on bickering about it without sufficient proof. Pakistan on the other hand had managed to achieve 7% growth not so long ago even with the on going WOT. Bad governance along with corruption lead to slow growth with several other factors contributing as hurdles.

In conclusion, Pakistan will not live in a state of oblivion while others seemingly prosper. In no way do I argue that BD is not prospering but to argue that Pakistan will remain as is and you will achieve all the glorious objectives is completely foolish. A wise notion would be for Yunus to consider or suggest BD to join G20 developing bloc not the other one.

Who said that pakistan is gonna remain at 2% all the time... but with present scenario and as long as pakistan will remain at the so called WOT it will not sustain higher growth for sure. The way it is going in the coming years so called wot will be more intense and do more damage to pakistan's economy. That is why citi bank excluded pakistan from the next emerging 11 country list.

For bangladesh it is already expected 6.7% this only based on garments and foreign remittance. Just add more manufacturing base with that ... it will surely pass 8% and 10% with 7-8 years. Just look at the amount RMG is going to earn this year ... 18 billion from 14 billion last year... in next 2 year it will be 30 billion. Pharmaceuticals will help earn bangladesh around 10 billion dollar within a decades. Ship building and car manufacturing business is also emerging in bangladesh along with prospect of getting majority of the diversified toy and plastic manufacturing business from china. Only the biggest prob is power shortage. Otherwise bd would achieve 8-10% gdp growth long ago.

But for a better prediction of pakistan it needs to do well 1, 2 or 3 year consecutively... but that is not in sight.

 

[integra]

Let me ask a few questions,
Its not about GDP of Bangladesh,India or Pakistan as
none of you ignorants seem to actually read the article properly.
Most of the time BD has to lead many countries
which doesn have proper resources for demanding
their terms in global councils and summits, such as
coppenhegen summit last year. Several African nations themselves
recommended us for leading the terms. Now lets say India and Pakistan
are super duper rich countries but how much do they represent
the smaller countries in summits?
Bangladesh lies in the threshold point therefore the
recommendation, not because we are wannabe Super Powaaaah!

 

[true_indian]

Who said that pakistan is gonna remain at 2% all the time... but with present scenario and as long as pakistan will remain at the so called WOT it will not sustain higher growth for sure. The way it is going in the coming years so called wot will be more intense and do more damage to pakistan's economy. That is why citi bank excluded pakistan from the next emerging 11 country list.

For bangladesh it is already expected 6.7% this only based on garments and foreign remittance. Just add more manufacturing base with that ... it will surely pass 8% and 10% with 7-8 years. Just look at the amount RMG is going to earn this year ... 18 billion from 14 billion last year... in next 2 year it will be 30 billion. Pharmaceuticals will help earn bangladesh around 10 billion dollar within a decades. Ship building and car manufacturing business is also emerging in bangladesh along with prospect of getting majority of the diversified toy and plastic manufacturing business from china. Only the biggest prob is power shortage. Otherwise bd would achieve 8-10% gdp growth long ago.

But for a better prediction of pakistan it needs to do well 1, 2 or 3 year consecutively... but that is not in sight.

I think you are assuming too much. We are talking about present. Younus is not asking for membership in G20 in 10 years from now right?

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Let me ask a few questions,
Its not about GDP of Bangladesh,India or Pakistan as
none of you ignorants seem to actually read the article properly.
Most of the time BD has to lead many countries
which doesn have proper resources for demanding
their terms in global councils and summits, such as
coppenhegen summit last year. Several African nations themselves
recommended us for leading the terms. Now lets say India and Pakistan
are super duper rich countries but how much do they represent
the smaller countries in summits?
Bangladesh lies in the threshold point therefore the
recommendation, not because we are wannabe Super Powaaaah!

When did African countries ask you for anything? Also we are not talking about UN here. We are talking about G20 which is an economic forum, get it?

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

I am talking about Bangladeshis that came illegally to Pakistan way after 1971. They are mostly under 40 years of age. These millions of illegal Bangladeshis work as mostly maids, cooks, fishermen and commit petty crime.

And please do not compare yourself with Pakistan or any other country that is not considered a least developed country with massive poverty and is not low on the HDI.

Bangladesh has done better in education, but what really matters is the quality of university graduates, which again we have in droves, and lets face it, no institute in Bangladesh has the quality of labs and research which institutes like NUST, GIK, LUMS and Quaid-e-Azam uni do.
As for the economy, our population are pretty similar but yet Bangladesh has a very tiny GDP. Not to mention a very low GDP Per Capita. I hope Bangladesh continues to prosper but it is laughable how you guys are going wild.

pretty big stuffs and talk like the bhartis... bangladesh has started to do well in literacy it is also going to be reflected in number of graduate production rate. By 2030 bangladesh will produce 1.5 times more graduates then pakistan despite of having 70% of the population of pakistan...

N regarding quality of education... majority of the pakistni here in my uni only pass through plagiarism. None other countries student do that and come here to study without funding. But majority of the bangladeshi come here with funding.

N as I said before bangldesh's economy is 5 years legging then pakistn... so do you consider pakistan was so backward and LDC level country 5 years back???

Just see the table and compere [ as of 2010 bangladesh has a gdp of around 110 billion usd]..

World Development Indicators (subset) - Google Public Data Explorer


N regarding many other HDI bd is ahead of both pakistan and india and it will kept on improving in the coming years.