In Pakistan now Fashion&Drama are having things not respectable in Islam

[Baby Leone]

That doesn't make models posing half nude a alright thing just because it "benefits" the economy. Thailand is known for its sex tourism and the Thai economy makes more than $4.3 billion annually from the prostitution industry, does that make it a good thing therefore Pakistan should also do it? No!


And i never said there was nudity in Pakistani dramas.


And i never said i didn't like music.



Of course they do, nothing wrong with watching dramas.


I never said i didn't like dramas, i just don't watch them, i'm more into action, horror, and suspense films.


Then in that case there is no point in debating anything, this forum should be closed then.

soo point is clear when u dont watch dramas than why the hell u r complaining & am sure those "suspense" or "horror" u watch doesn't have girls in shalwar kamiz right? than why u watch "them"?

 

[Desert Fox]

bt fashion industry does needs to get out of the country to make more profits

Then why don't they get out of the country and use foreign models??

Thing is, if they are modeling in Pakistan (or on behalf o Pakistan abroad) they should represent Pakistani culture which includes Pakistani clothes/dresses, not foreign styles.

 

[JonAsad]

Link me up with a visa to nanga land. I might go there in the summer.

So according to you it's bad to have dramas and fashion shows in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but it's perfectly ok to have people blowing themselves up, mullahs at madrassahs torturing kids, men throwing acid at the faces of innocent women etc.
I never hear people crying about that happening in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but non hurtful things like Dramas and Fashion shows are what breaks the straw on the camel's back.

wow- why do every counter argument of a liberal "fascist" go to the example/ comparison with some mullah and their sick teachings-
No i dont agree with such mullah with some personal agendas nor i agree with such open exposure of nudity and westernization-
Where a son feels the shame while watching a drama or an event with his mother- which is supposed to be a family show- this is where i disagree-

In other words- if some extremist mullah- rapes a kid in madrassah- prepares young suicide bomers or some retards throw acid on women face- this doesn't mean the liberals can preach nudity and vulgarity in name of tolerance and acceptance on the other side of spectrum-

No- i need balance- there should always be a balance- extremism goes both ways- you just cannot quote on wrong doing to propagate your beliefs- which if measured on the same scale leads to same extremism-

 

[SHAMK9]

So according to you it's bad to have dramas and fashion shows in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but it's perfectly ok to have people blowing themselves up, mullahs at madrassahs torturing kids, men throwing acid at the faces of innocent women etc.
I never hear people crying about that happening in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but non hurtful things like Dramas and Fashion shows are what breaks the straw on the camel's back.

well said, its a sad truth

 

[Desert Fox]

soo point is clear when u dont watch dramas than why the hell u r complaining

I was never complaining about Pakistani dramas, point that out in my posts instead of accusing me of complaining!

& am sure those "suspense" or "horror" u watch doesn't have girls in shalwar kamiz right?

Of course they don't, at least not all of them, but neither do they have half nude models claiming "well, its ok since its benefiting the economy", or "if you don't like it move to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan", or "its western culture, time to move on from 1800's".

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wow- why do every counter argument of a liberal "fascist" go to the example/ comparison with some mullah and their sick teachings-
No i dont agree with such mullah with some personal agendas nor i agree with such open exposure of nudity and westernization-
Where a son feels the shame while watching a drama or an event with his mother- which is supposed to be a family show- this is where i disagree-

In other words- if some extremist mullah- rapes a kid in madrassah- prepares young suicide bomers or some retards throw acid on women face- this doesn't mean the liberals can preach nudity and vulgarity in name of tolerance and acceptance on the other side of spectrum-

No- i need balance- there should always be a balance- extremism goes both ways- you just cannot quote on wrong doing to propagate your beliefs- which if measured on the same scale leads to same extremism-

well said, its a sad truth- As quoted from SHAMK9's post.

 

[SHAMK9]

Then why don't they get out of the country and use foreign models??

Thing is, if they are modeling in Pakistan (or on behalf o Pakistan abroad) they should represent Pakistani culture which includes Pakistani clothes/dresses, not foreign styles.

they will use both whether u like it or not, fashion pakistan weeks hav blend of both pakistani and western designs and bridal couture weeks hav cultural dulhan dresses.

 

[Desert Fox]

wow- why do every counter argument of a liberal "fascist" go to the example/ comparison with some mullah and their sick teachings-
No i dont agree with such mullah with some personal agendas nor i agree with such open exposure of nudity and westernization-
Where a son feels the shame while watching a drama or an event with his mother- which is supposed to be a family show- this is where i disagree-

In other words- if some extremist mullah- rapes a kid in madrassah- prepares young suicide bomers or some retards throw acid on women face- this doesn't mean the liberals can preach nudity and vulgarity in name of tolerance and acceptance on the other side of spectrum-

No- i need balance- there should always be a balance- extremism goes both ways- you just cannot quote on wrong doing to propagate your beliefs- which if measured on the same scale leads to same extremism-

You know, i noticed something on this forum since i've been here, the Liberal Fascists brand anyone who wants to preserve Pakistani traditions as a "Taliban sympathizer", a "mullah", "madrassah educated", lolz, height of hypocrisy and ignorance.

 

[Baby Leone]

I was never complaining about Pakistani dramas, point that out in my posts instead of accusing me of complaining!



Of course they don't, at least not all of them, but neither do they have half nude models claiming "well, its ok since its benefiting the economy", or "if you don't like it move to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan", or "its western culture, time to move on from 1800's".

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well said, its a sad truth- As quoted from SHAM9's post.

buddy sorry but u seems to be a confused soul...u dont even know wht to do or wht not on one hand u like movies from hollywood (suspense actions etc...) & on the other u r complaining abt half nudity

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You know, i noticed something on this forum since i've been here, the Liberal Fascists brand anyone who wants to preserve Pakistani traditions as a "Taliban sympathizer", a "mullah", "madrassah educated", lolz, height of hypocrisy and ignorance.

Buddy can u tell me in ur views wht Pakistani Tradition or culture really is? if thosel dramas are nt showinng real culture

 

[Desert Fox]

buddy sorry but u seems to be a confused soul...

Lolz, says the confused person himself.

u dont even know wht to do or wht not on one hand u like movies from hollywood (suspense actions etc...) & on the other u r complaining abt half nudity

Is hollywood the only film industry in the world that produces films? Does every horror, suspense, and action/adventure film have to have nudity in it?

Nice, so you can post smileys? So can i: , see?

 

[Karachiite]

wow- why do every counter argument of a liberal "fascist" go to the example/ comparison with some mullah and their sick teachings-
No i dont agree with such mullah with some personal agendas nor i agree with such open exposure of nudity and westernization-
Where a son feels the shame while watching a drama or an event with his mother- which is supposed to be a family show- this is where i disagree-

In other words- if some extremist mullah- rapes a kid in madrassah- prepares young suicide bomers or some retards throw acid on women face- this doesn't mean the liberals can preach nudity and vulgarity in name of tolerance and acceptance on the other side of spectrum-

No- i need balance- there should always be a balance- extremism goes both ways- you just cannot quote on wrong doing to propagate your beliefs- which if measured on the same scale leads to same extremism-

Why does every mulli counters an argument by shouting liberal fascist?

I have yet to see a drama where which is not suitable to watch with a family. And if there are any dramas like that then there should be advisories at the beginning of the show. Like pg 13, 18+ etc.
First of all where has any Pakistani liberal ever preached nudity? Last time I checked all actresses and models were wearing clothes. Please don't add words like vulgarity and nudity to make your argument more dramatic.

 

[Desert Fox]

Buddy can u tell me in ur views wht Pakistani Tradition or culture really is? if thoselture dramas are nt showinng reall cu

"Buddy", can you first tell me in your view if your school teacher use to walking across the classroom half nude saying "its ok since it's benefiting the economy, and if any of you object to it then you are mullah educated in a madrassah" And therefore for this reason you deem it as Pakistan culture?

Or if any close female relative of yours walked on a cat walk half nude saying "its ok since its benefiting the economy and if any of you say otherwise you should move to Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia" and for this reason also do you deem it as Pakistani culture and part of our society?

 

[JonAsad]

You know, i noticed something on this forum since i've been here, the Liberal Fascists brand anyone who wants to preserve Pakistani traditions as a "Taliban sympathizer", a "mullah", "madrassah educated", lolz, height of hypocrisy and ignorance.

I agree-
the mullah extremist breed- and the ultra liberal fascists
i put them on the same scale but on opposite ends- both are bad for society-

if we argue even to save our traditional values we are branded as taliban/ mullah sympathizers-
thats just pure hypocritical nonsense-

and as a nation thats the mess we are in right now- no one wants to find a middle way-

 

[Karachiite]

Move on in improving education? Yes!, move on in providing minorities as well as women rights? Yes! Move on in eradicating poverty and extremism? Yes! But move on in importing materialistic western culture? No! That is not considered "moving on" in in this context.

Again what is materialistic western culture? And what is Pakistani culture? Because what I see in Pakistan is intolerance, religious extremism, lack of education and lot of other sad things. Is this Pakistani culture? Is it Pakistani culture to bomb a whole fckin school? I rather have this materialistic culture where atleast I am not sh-t scared of getting bombed.

There's no problem with that, as long as nudity is not involved.

What nudity? Send me a link to a fashion show or drama that showed nudity? Seeing is believing you know.

move on from the 1800's? are you implying that i'm suggesting Pakistan should be in the 1800's? And yes it is 2012, but how does that justify incorporating materialistic nude western culture into Pakistani culture?

Only a person from the 1800s can call a clothed fashion show nudity or vulgar. You know the Islamic Republic of Pakistan tops searches for all types of ****. There is a lack of sex in Pakistan, its a sex starved country. Thats why you have people having sex with corpses in Pakistan, thats why you have massive rape problems. Don`t blame western culture for that too.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

You know, i noticed something on this forum since i've been here, the Liberal Fascists brand anyone who wants to preserve Pakistani traditions as a "Taliban sympathizer", a "mullah", "madrassah educated", lolz, height of hypocrisy and ignorance.

I have friend which is molvi, but he goes with me on chaklas houses. Infact these days 500 is enough for 1 shot and 2000 for night. He also teaches Quran to children for 600Rs per person. He also goes in Jamat e islamic ijtamaas. I said him many time Leave these activities of chaklas. But he said, "i can't" do this. I reply, Ok.

And your Post of teacher, You reminded me Intermediate days of my female teacher.

Fashion is not bad thing. Depends on eyes what you see, Clothes or.....................................

 

[Donatello]

We call ourselves Muslims but see how we treat other human beings by killing them on the streets of Karachi, by throwing acid in the face of women and by cheating and lying in everyday life...and by playing with people's livelihood.

I'd rather live in a society where all this so called 'Haram' and 'Nanga' stuff is there, as long as human rights are upheld.


Open up your mind, because that is one freakin thing that i can't do for you!