In Iran nobody follows the line of the Mullahs

[Serpentine]

They are not tired of getting ruled by us and we are not tired of ruling them , today they are a desert with oil while we are a beatiful country visited by 31 million tourists and make modern weapons while their attack helicopter looks like a childrens built toy.

Before opening your mouth and talking nonsense,go read some geography books about Iran.Only 15-20% of Iran's area are deserts,still the rest of non desert areas are twice the size of your country.

Hmmm nice tactics by an armenian who is like a mosquito , your tactics at using iranians are very good against us , but remember there are 30 million azeris which most are not happy with their situation of no rights and if iran backs armenia they will stand with their blood brothers , you left your poor isolated country that begged us to open our border gates?

I do read many books and also travel in my beatiful country , you can come and visit aswell.

Post reported.
Go spit your Pan Turk BS somewhere else.

 

[Grand-Vizier]

When we look at history,Ottomans were always a great danger to Iran more than danger of Iran to Ottomans

.

Shah Ismail ? Does that bring anything to mind? Ottomans never fought persians because it was azeri turks unfortunately we fought against. ( Safavids)

Get over it.Kurds are your problem.Iran has never helped Kurds or PKK

We are not paranoid with iran or hate iran but its known that you supported PKK in the 1990's but we never supported any armed struggle against Iran.

These are just some of the Azeri Turk states

 

[Serpentine]

.

Shah Ismail ? Does that bring anything to mind? Ottomans never fought persians because it was azeri turks unfortunately we fought against. ( Safavids)



We are not paranoid with iran or hate iran but its known that you supported PKK in the 1990's but we never supported any armed struggle against Iran.

These are just some of the Azeri Turk states

How funny,during the Safavid times,Ottomans had most aggression against Iran.But Shah Abbas tought them a lesson that they never dared to impose their expansionist desires to Iran.
Neither in 90s nor in any other year,Iran never helped Kurds or PKK.Bring a proof for your claim.

 

[Grand-Vizier]

How funny,during the Safavid times,Ottomans had most aggression against Iran.But Shah Abbas tought them a lesson that they never dared to impose their expansionist desires to Iran.
Neither in 90s nor in any other year,Iran never helped Kurds or PKK.Bring a proof for your claim.

Im not here to compare two turkic empires , our borders remain since Battle of Chaldiran . We made a mistake fighting against our brothers because they were shia .

There was a video of some type of proof saying iran letting pkk in their land but i couldnt find it .

 

[Surenas]

Grand Vizier is just a clone of Ottoman Turk who's banned. The mods should ban this account also. I'm gonna send the mods a message.

 

[SOHEIL]

Surenas ! none of your wet dreams will happen !

Enjoy your self

 

[TurAr]

Firstly, look at GDP as a whole is stupid. It's better to look at GDP per captia PPP wise. The difference between Turkey and Iran is minimal. However, when ones looks at the HDI. Iran has a higher standard of living than Turkey and Iran would be considered more developed.

The sole reason Turkey even exports weaponry is due to the fact it isn't under sanctions and has access to western technology while Iran doesn't. Even that so, scientifically Iran is more advanced than Turkey and will eclipse Turkey in the coming years.

You cannot fault Iran for having Oil and Gas, even with this blessing. Unlike Turkey, Iran has fought a devastating war against Iraq, had a western imposed dictator and now has been facing sanctions since they choose to oust a dictator. Iran has planted the seed of success with its hard work and will power, while Turkey opted for a short cut which entailed in selling its soul and dignity.

No reason to be mad, all I stated was Turkey in this thread earlier was made out to be much better than Iran which its clearly not

You sound like Turkey hasn't been through any difficulties, everything was fvcking perfect for Turkey but this is all we could do?
Like we haven't spent billions of dollars because of Terrorism. Like we haven't lost thousands of good people because of it. We are struggling with terrorists, or like some Iranians here like to say "freedom fighters", for almost 30 years. I'm not even mentioning political problems that we're dealing with.

You keep saying that "you can't blame Iran for its oil". But you're blaming the whole world because of the sanctions. But noo, Iran is such an angel.
Before starting with "If there was no sanctions, Iran would have surpass Turkey in every field" BS, answer this: What would happen to Iran if there was no oil? Let me answer it instead of you. "if"s are not important. The important thing is "now".

Even all of your claims would be true, even if Iran would be the most wealthy nation on earth. Still, what good would it bring while its citizens can not enjoy their freedom?

Why are you attacking Arabs for? All I stated was Turkey with it's praised atheist ideology and "heroic" father isn't much better Islamic Iran.

You are asking why Turkey is better than Iran? Because we're free, that's why.

Thanks to that great man!

 

[TurAr]

Well said, no country (especially Turkey) or a none Iranian has the right or the moral high ground to dictate to Iran on how they should run their country....who the hell do they think they are....that is an insult. if anything they should learn from Iran's wisdom and stfu.

Any change in Iran must come from within Iran by Iranians if so desired by the Iranians. If other countries want to help all they got to do is to take the peaceful route (instead of warmongering) and open good and sincere relations with Iran, and in time more moderate Iranian leaders will emerge and their won't be any need for hardliners.

So it is an insult when we criticize the regime of Iran. But when you declare Turkish soil as stolen lands it is not an insult?

Why especially Turkey? Is it because you hate us so much?

You Anatolian toork can learn alot from my Iranian Turkish friends.....You live on stolen lands, bask in an illusion of grandeur and proven to be a disgrace to Islam with your god ataturk and you think you can dictate Persians their history.

Toork? You are hurting our feelings

And when you accuse us as being a disgrace to Islam, it is not an insult? So are we the ones here who must stfu? Think again.

And what should we do to not become a disgrace to Islam? Force it on people like in Iran?

 

[Azatavrear]

So it is an insult when we criticize the regime of Iran. But when you declare Turkish soil as stolen lands it is not an insult?

You guys are not making constructive criticism of the Islamic Republic of Iran but what you are dong is dictating your absurd version of the Persian history and telling them what they should do against their government....who you guys think you are.....you don't even know Iranians, I consider that an insult.

Armenia lays no claim on her conquered lands (those are lost long ago) however she does not recognizes the current borders as valid and holds on to the treaty of Sevres which shows the true Armenian borders, however again, they cannot enforce it not to mention even be able to hold it in current condition.

Why especially Turkey? Is it because you hate us so much?

No, because Turkey is a double dealing (East/West/Israel) untrustworthy paranoid country.

And when you accuse us as being a disgrace to Islam, it is not an insult? So are we the ones here who must stfu? Think again.

You can say what you want....but you are in no place to tell my Persian brothers how to run their country.

And what should we do to not become a disgrace to Islam? Force it on people like in Iran?

No, Turks as a collective were never Islamic......however you guys still claim to be the center of Islam. very disrespectful to the true followers, that is If you ask me, but as you know all Armenians are born christian so for whatever is worth.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

You guys are not making constructive criticism of the Islamic Republic of Iran but what you are dong is dictating your absurd version of the Persian history and telling them what they should do against their government....who you guys think you are.....you don't even know Iranians, I consider that an insult.

I am partially proud of Iranian history. Shah Ismail, Nadir Shah, Seljuks, Akkoyunlus, Karakoyunlus, Timurids, they are all part of Turkic history. Iran is part of Turkic world. It is not insult but reality. Get used to it.

Turks and Iranians wont fight over a single issue. You, Armenian, have zero chance to gain anything from playing divide and rule.

 

[TurAr]

You guys are not making constructive criticism of the Islamic Republic of Iran but what you are dong is dictating your absurd version of the Persian history and telling them what they should do against their government....who you guys think you are.....you don't even know Iranians, I consider that an insult.

Armenia lays no claim on her conquered lands (those are lost long ago) however she does not recognizes the current borders as valid and holds on to the treaty of Sevres which shows the true Armenian borders, however again, they cannot enforce it not to mention even be able to hold it in current condition.

No, who do you think you are? You have two comments in this thread, which one of them is constructive? None of them, all you are doing is provoking people.

So an Armenian, whose country's only single job and way of survival is dictating its own version of history on other countries, accusing us with that?

No, because Turkey is a double dealing (East/West/Israel) untrustworthy paranoid country.

Please tell us more.

You can say what you want....but you are in no place to tell my Persian brothers how to run their country.

So you are in place to accuse Turkey as being a disgrace and lots of others, but we've no right to criticize your Persian "brothers"?

Double dealing, untrustworthy, paranoid, are you sure this is not your description?

No, Turks as a collective were never Islamic......however you guys still claim to be the center of Islam. very disrespectful to the true followers, that is If you ask me, but as you know all Armenians are born christian so for whatever is worth.

Well, since i'm not a muslim, i'll leave this to others.

But you haven't answered my question. What do you think about Iranian understanding of Islam? It is perfect right? Police preventing you from drink or eat in public during Ramadan. It is like beacon of tolerance, right?

There are lots of thing worth criticizing in Turkey when it comes to religion. But next time, if you do not want to put yourself in an idiotic position, do not criticize Turkey while defending Iran.

 

[SOHEIL]

I am partially proud of Iranian history. Shah Ismail, Nadir Shah, Seljuks, Akkoyunlus, Karakoyunlus, Timurids, they are all part of Turkic history. Iran is part of Turkic world. It is not insult but reality. Get used to it.

Turks and Iranians wont fight over a single issue. You, Armenian, have zero chance to gain anything from playing divide and rule.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

I am partially proud of Iranian history. Shah Ismail, Nadir Shah, Seljuks, Akkoyunlus, Karakoyunlus, Timurids, they are all part of Turkic history. Iran is part of Turkic world. It is not insult but reality. Get used to it.

Turks and Iranians wont fight over a single issue. You, Armenian, have zero chance to gain anything from playing divide and rule.

The funny thing is you torks are trying to steal Iranian history by creating propaganda that likes of shah ismail and the others were torkish, they were iranic people. I undersatnd that you lowlife mongols who live in stolen lands have no history; that is fine, I have sympathy for you. but please don't try and steal Iranian history in daylight.

Armenia is our iranic brothers and we will always defend them again bunch of mongols.

 

[Serpentine]

I am partially proud of Iranian history. Shah Ismail, Nadir Shah, Seljuks, Akkoyunlus, Karakoyunlus, Timurids, they are all part of Turkic history. Iran is part of Turkic world. It is not insult but reality. Get used to it.

Turks and Iranians wont fight over a single issue. You, Armenian, have zero chance to gain anything from playing divide and rule.

Dude you are delusional,I don't know what is this obsession of Turks and Arabs who are trying to steal others history and heritage.Iran wa here even before Turks migrate to ME from Central Asial and Mongolia.
So if Shah Abbas,Ismael and others were Turkic,why did all of them speak Persian?
If you look at history books,You'll see that Turks have gained the most from Iranian culture and heritage.You guys should be thankful instead of being ungrateful.That's a shame.
Now don't derail the topic with these Pan Turk nonsense anymore.

 

[INDIC]

Dude you are delusional,I don't know what is this obsession of Turks and Arabs who are trying to steal others history and heritage.Iran wa here even before Turks migrate to ME from Central Asial and Mongolia.
So if Shah Abbas,Ismael and others were Turkic,why did all of them speak Persian?
If you look at history books,You'll see that Turks have gained the most from Iranian culture and heritage.You guys should be thankful instead of being ungrateful.That's a shame.
Now don't derail the topic with these Pan Turk nonsense anymore.

The fact is true for my country too. Mughals gave up speaking Chughtai Turkish(got extinct) and started speaking Persian language, started celebrating Nowruz.