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In India, a father serves daughter's rapist dinner and 'justice'

LOL sorry, but there are solutions for everything nowadays.
Think of a different solution, how about teaching good human and moral values to children they will become good citizens who will not do such things when brought up in a good environment.
Pyschological conditioning that is how you get rid of this menace.

Cmon Doc..even you know that you speak of a utopian world where everyone teaches good moral values to their kids...
Ideological changes in society are the sureshot cure to the lack of moral fabric in any culture, but implementing it is a gargantuan task...
Let's at least say that we will do our part in making sure our kids are imparted such values, if not the rest of India/world...

If the movie Clockwork Orange taught us anything, it is that humans can not be classically conditioned!

Yes I am for real or maybe I have been watching too many serial killer drama series lately.....:what:

Come to think of it disposing a bodies is pretty easy as long as a person has watched enough episodes of Dexter, anyone could do it as long as they dont use a ceramic bathtub to store the acid.....:D

On a serious note its sad that the father will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law but rapists buzz around with impunity.....

Mixed Dexter and Breaking Bad did ya?!!! LOL
 
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Cmon Doc..even you know that you speak of a utopian world where everyone teaches good moral values to their kids...
Ideological changes in society are the sureshot cure to the lack of moral fabric in any culture, but implementing it is a gargantuan task...
Let's at least say that we will do our part in making sure our kids are imparted such values, if not the rest of India/world...

If the movie Clockwork Orange taught us anything, it is that humans can not be classically conditioned!



Mixed DexTer and Breaking Bad did ya?!!! LOL
That is what we could do,teach the moral values etc.
But there is another hypothesis here some people are inherently born stone cold killers that comes from the genes passed on.
Conditioning is difficult but it can be done.The 5-10 years stage is the most important that is where you mould their psyche and put the fear or good and bad in them, after that phase they cannot be conditioned.
One way of ensuring that is imparting our cultural and vedic knowledge to kids at young age and they grow up to be fine people.

Breaking bad was out of desperation, and Dexter well thats a different case :D
 
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He must have invited him to dinner to discuss things as he was their medicine supplier i am guessing the father has some medical problems like Diabetes and High blood pressure etc. and the culprit was known to them since he does home deliveries of medicine, The culprit must have thought he subdued the girl by threatening not to speak to anyone and must have thought she didn't tell her father due to fear.
That itself shows the rapist had committed this crime earlier too and the earlier victims most likely never spoke about it to anyone out of fear and shame, so he thought the same would happen here.
Besides when he was being tortured .
Also, during questioning the father said he had asked the supplier why he raped his daughter and the man responded with "offensive language," not showing remorse.
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hows the rapist had a perverted mind and he committed this crime earlier too as only hardened criminals don't show No regret or remorse when confronted.While a Greenhorn will automatically break down and confess to everything that is how police get information in Interrogation.
So what more questions do you need answered before getting a clear picture.
Are you somehow implying that the father was Pimping his own daughter and she got pregnant after multiple intercourses over a period of time?
Because that would be an outrageous accusation.

Hey doc. I agree with you completely that quacks and laymen should not express a medical opinion. Likewise, doctors or surgeons should never express a legal opinion unless they are qualified to do so :D

Your hypotheses on whether the deceased is a rapist is flawed for the following reason in my opinion. The deceased responded with "offensive language" when questioned by the father. Now if he had raped the child, why would he do that? Wouldn't the average person when confronted with an accusation of a crime by the victim or the victim's family want to leave the crime scene as soon as possible and not linger around to be abusive towards the accuser? The only witness to this murder is the father it seems. Dead men tell no tales so the deceased's version is ruled out here. Is it not possible that the deceased being innocent, was so affronted by the accusation that he became abusive when accused of the crime ? If the guy is guilty then he deserved to be punished...but mob justice or vigilantism is a double edged sword. It could result in the death of an innocent person. If people are so aggrieved with the lack of speedy justice then they need to address this with the legislators. Taking the law into their own hands will simply take us back to the stone age days
 
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That is what we could do,teach the moral values etc.
But there is another hypothesis here some people are inherently born stone cold killers that comes from the genes passed on.
Conditioning is difficult but it can be done.The 5-10 years stage is the most important that is where you mould their psyche and put the fear or good and bad in them, after that phase they cannot be conditioned.
One way of ensuring that is imparting our cultural and vedic knowledge to kids at young age and they grow up to be fine people.

Breaking bad was out of desperation, and Dexter well thats a different case :D

Apparently cruelty to animals and helpless creatures is a dead giveaway for a child to grow up to be a criminal/serial killer...
And Im not plagiarizing from Dexter...its actually a fact!
 
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Hey doc. I agree with you completely that quacks and laymen should not express a medical opinion. Likewise, doctors or surgeons should never express a legal opinion unless they are qualified to do so :D

Your hypotheses on whether the deceased is a rapist is flawed for the following reason in my opinion. The deceased responded with "offensive language" when questioned by the father. Now if he had raped the child, why would he do that? Wouldn't the average person when confronted with an accusation of a crime by the victim or the victim's family want to leave the crime scene as soon as possible and not linger around to be abusive towards the accuser? The only witness to this murder is the father it seems. Dead men tell no tales so the deceased's version is ruled out here. Is it not possible that the deceased being innocent, was so affronted by the accusation that he became abusive when accused of the crime ? If the guy is guilty then he deserved to be punished...but mob justice or vigilantism is a double edged sword. It could result in the death of an innocent person. If people are so aggrieved with the lack of speedy justice then they need to address this with the legislators. Taking the law into their own hands will simply take us back to the stone age days

FYI, in medical college we learn Psychology,Forensic Medicine,Penal codes which most of the policemen learn too same as us,so we do know what is legal and what is not, i can tell you a 100 ways to kill a person and make his body disappear as long as no body is found there is no case, just a missing persons report and i will even get a perfect alibi if someone comes investigating. Why do you think the police uses forensics team in a crime scene.The general psychology of a greenhorn culprit is fear and anxiety as you said above,
while hardened criminals and repeat offenders are calm and cool as they know how to walk out of this thing as they did it before.I will give you a simple example in a alley mugging or school yard fight, those who keep looking behind or above your shoulder,anxious,frequently hopping and restless are new to that thing, while the professionals are calm and cool as they know the ropes that itself should tell you to GTFO there.

The confidence, no remorse and the Offensive language show that he has committed this crime earlier too.
I agree Mob justice is no way, but sometimes people do it out of rage and crime committed in a fit of rage will carry lesser punishment than committing a cold blooded murder.
The Indian courts are presently overburdened with cases and it takes lot of time for it to be done, not to mention the social stigma and investigation carried out by the police it will carry.Some fear that this thing getting out in society will spoil the other children's future and they might not get married.
I presume the father must have other children at home as well most probably a girl other than the victim.
Regarding what you said about the culprit not lingering around and rushing away from the scene, most culprits stay in the scene and try to find and glean information out of a crime scene so that they can be sure they covered their tracks and have a perfect alibi.
This is truth in many criminal investigations ,arson etc. as the culprit can be found somewhere in the locality watching and acting as innocent.
 
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FYI, in medical college we learn Psychology,Forensic Medicine,Penal codes which most of the policemen learn too same as us,so we do know what is legal and what is not, i can tell you a 100 ways to kill a person and make his body disappear as long as no body is found there is no case, just a missing persons report and i will even get a perfect alibi if someone comes investigating. Why do you think the police uses forensics team in a crime scene.The general psychology of a greenhorn culprit is fear and anxiety as you said above,
while hardened criminals and repeat offenders are calm and cool as they know how to walk out of this thing as they did it before.I will give you a simple example in a alley mugging or school yard fight, those who keep looking behind or above your shoulder,anxious,frequently hopping and restless are new to that thing, while the professionals are calm and cool as they know the ropes that itself should tell you to GTFO there.

The confidence, no remorse and the Offensive language show that he has committed this crime earlier too.
I agree Mob justice is no way, but sometimes people do it out of rage and crime committed in a fit or rage will carry lesser punishment than committing a cold blooded murder.
The Indian courts are presently overburdened with cases and it takes lot of time for it to be done, not to mention the social stigma and investigation carried out by the police it will carry.Some fear that this thing getting out in society will spoil the other children's future and they might not get married.
I presume the father must have other children at home as well most probably a girl other than the victim.

Point noted doc. As I mentioned earlier though, vigilantism is a double edged sword. Our sympathy for the victim must not let us disregard the law to the extent that we start taking the law into our own hands or else we may end up like Pakistan
 
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Yes I am for real or maybe I have been watching too many serial killer drama series lately.....:what:

Come to think of it disposing a bodies is pretty easy as long as a person has watched enough episodes of Dexter, anyone could do it as long as they dont use a ceramic bathtub to store the acid.....:D

On a serious note its sad that the father will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law but rapists buzz around with impunity.....
Yeah Dexter was super. Your last statement is also true, but he will get leniency - that's for sure. May be a smaller sentence. But the damage is done. Imagine living life as a daughter of a killer father. People won't remember the circumstances.
 
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How is that justice? May be the girl got knocked up by her boyfriend or some one else and concocted the story about rape?
 
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