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In China, 'Xi Forever' May Not Be Forever, After All

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In China, 'Xi Forever' May Not Be Forever, After All
It's official, Xi Forever is now the law in China. So the story goes, he is the second coming of Chairman Mao, and will be the ruler of the world's No. 2 economy until his dying day. Democracy is dead. As if China was heading in that direction on a high-speed train.

What's happened with the rules change?

In the near-term, nothing has happened because Xi Jinping was a shoo-in for a second five-year term anyway. That second term began this weekend. The government scrapped term-limits, meaning he can run again in 2023. His premier, the quiet Li Keqiang, stays on for another term, helping set the economic agenda. China has a novel concept of mandatory age limits to hold power. That age limit is 68 years old. Xi would be 69 his last year in office.

There is a rumor among China investors that recently retired corruption czar Wang Qishan will be Xi's new Veep. Wang had to retire because he was over the 68-year-old age limit. He is 69. Scrapping term limits means you scrap the age limit because there is no sense having an age limit if there is no term limit. Qishan can be brought on board and continue his anti-corruption push, helping Xi centralize power in Beijing, and weaken the provincial governments who have had a penchant for oversupply and shadow banking practices. These practices have been two negatives for China for at least a decade.


"Does Xi even need a third term? He really doesn't," says Brendan Ahern, CIO of KraneShares, a China-focused exchange-traded fund company based in New York. "There is a lot of emphasis on Xi Forever, but he already has the people in place that can keep pursuing his agenda and economic reforms without him."

China's constitutional changes were passed by the National People's Congress on March 11. Only two delegates voted against the change and three abstained, with 2,964 votes in favor of abolishing term limits. The country has had a two five-year term policy since the 1990s.


Xi Forever is not Castro's Cuba.

There is an unstoppable culture of capitalism and entrepreneurship in China. Private tech companies have driven much of the new wealth in China. Tencent has over 43,000 well paid, well-educated employees with a net profit margin of 27% as of the third quarter last year. Alibaba has around 50,000 employees today and growing globally.

Billionaire tech founders Jack Ma and Robin Li are revered by the government for what they've accomplished. Warren Buffet and hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio are like rock stars in China, a country full of retail investors who like putting money to work in the stock market as much as they like gambling in Macao and Las Vegas. Mainland equity markets are being institutionalized. The MSCI A Shares inclusion in the massive MSCI Emerging Markets Index is a recognition of that progress. China is still the largest closed-door economy in the world, but it is opening up at its own pace and many U.S. investment banks will reap the benefits of that as China lowers the entry barriers for foreign banks in the mainland.

One of the bigger immediate concerns in China is Washington's push on intellectual property rights. Most of this impacts the privately held telecos like ZTE and Huawei. Huawei has proven to be a serious competitor to Cisco Systems. They are fast developing their own 5G protocols, and so the U.S. considers them a strategic rival in this space.

"I don't see any near-term problems for China with extending term limits," says Andy Rothman, an investment strategist with Matthews Asia in San Francisco. "If he stays on forever it sets a negative precedent because it tells us that the government can change the rules of the game whenever it wants," he says, noting certain legal issues held dear by investors, like property rights. What if those were scrapped someday? Thing is, investors would be hard-pressed to find anyone who thinks something like that is in the cards.

For now, it is all systems go for China. Xi is in his second term, as everyone expected. China is not a Western democracy. It probably never will be, in most of our lifetimes. The next five years of Xi are what matters for investors, and everyone expects Xi to honor his word of slowly opening the economy, within Beijing's limits, and fighting graft. That's where Wang might come in, a man too old to hold office until Sunday's rules change.

"I think Xi is done in five years," says Ahern. "I don't have a crystal ball. But the vision and agenda is already there. It's not necessary for him to stay in power."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...er-may-not-be-forever-after-all/#69d32ac7e83d
 
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BTW, If Xi goes into the third term, will he become a lifetime tyrant / dictator? Maybe. But even before Xi become a lifetime tyrant, Shinzo Abe and Merkel will already become lifetime dictators. If they're not already are.

How long Abe has become the Japanese Prime Minister? Since 2006? Oh yes, he was kicked out before in 2007. But then he was chosen again in 2012, 2014, and 2017. What about Merkel? They have been chosen for more than two times.

So are they lifetime dictator? Maybe.
 
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I hope things turn out as the article stated, that Xi won't seek a third term, the reason for the change of law is to bring his ally Wang back to help him to fight corruption.
 
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For Wang Qishan, it is bullsh!t Completely! I accept that Wang is very capable, also hope he can continue to stay in that position, but don't violate the rule, the age limitation is more unwritten rule.

Changing the Consitution is not for some person only, Maybe even not for Xi. I think CCP High Class officials want to solve some problems which must be solved. Personally I am still against the change of limitation on president term, but can understand!
 
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For Wang Qishan, it is bullsh!t Completely! I accept that Wang is very capable, also hope he can continue to stay in that position, but don't violate the rule, the age limitation is more unwritten rule.

Changing the Consitution is not for some person only, Maybe even not for Xi. I think CCP High Class officials want to solve some problems which must be solved. Personally I am still against the change of limitation on president term, but can understand!
I m also strongly against the change of the constitution I m still hoping things may turn out different from what it seems to be.
 
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I m also strongly against the change of the constitution I m still hoping things may turn out different from what it seems to be.
agree. i do not know why did CCP High Class officials give up the politics tradition. is xi better than deng xiao ping?
i guess xi will have a thrid trem.but i do not think next culture revolution will come. xi is not mao. mao's power is too big to control. mao can punish anyone . xi can not do the same thing.
maybe xi want to be next liguangyao.
 
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BTW, If Xi goes into the third term, will he become a lifetime tyrant / dictator? Maybe. But even before Xi become a lifetime tyrant, Shinzo Abe and Merkel will already become lifetime dictators. If they're not already are.

How long Abe has become the Japanese Prime Minister? Since 2006? Oh yes, he was kicked out before in 2007. But then he was chosen again in 2012, 2014, and 2017. What about Merkel? They have been chosen for more than two times.

So are they lifetime dictator? Maybe.

You're wilfully missing out on the fact that these are democratic countries where the people can vote them out and they can't change the constitution at least without a 2/3 majority in the parliament.

Let's look at Abe since you cited him. He has been wanting to revise the Japanese pacifist Constitution but he still hasn't succeed despite his party holding 2/3 of the seats in the parliament, simply because the majority of Japanese oppose to revise the Constitution.

The draft needs to win two-thirds of the vote in each of the two chambers before being put to a national referendum and it becomes official only if a simple majority votes in favour. However survey after survey has shown that the majority of voters still want to keep the pacifist ideals outlined in Article 9 as they are despite North Korea's provocation. That's how hard it is to change the constitution in Japan.
 
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For Wang Qishan, it is bullsh!t Completely! I accept that Wang is very capable, also hope he can continue to stay in that position, but don't violate the rule, the age limitation is more unwritten rule.

maybe xi want to be next liguangyao.

Lol. Back in 2011, Lee Kuan Yew said that if he was in the CPC, he would keep Wang in power despite the age limit because no one is near him.
 
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Lol. Back in 2011, Lee Kuan Yew said that if he was in the CPC, he would keep Wang in power despite the age limit because no one is near him.
liguangyao is a great leader, he is a legend. i do not mind xi will be president for life if he really do better than liguangyao.
 
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liguangyao is a great leader, he is a legend. i do not mind xi will be president for life if he really do better than liguangyao.

Well, there's a saying 时势造英雄. He himself say he was the product of the times, when Singapore suffered under the Japanese occupation.

When Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia, LKY led a newly independent country which was fragile and vulnerable to surrounding threats. He managed to prove himself in the time of crisis and turn the country around.

But like what his son said before, we mustn't expect another LKY to appear again in Singapore. Even if someone more capable than him appears, he wouldn't achieve as much as him unless Singapore falls into a national survival crisis again.

So Xi can't really be compared with Mao or Deng. China today isn't experiencing the same level of crisis during their times.

Li Guangyao was always an anti-China clown, and most people in China never liked him.

If he was really anti-China, he wouldn't have advised Deng to open up China when he visited Singapore.

Or send his right hand man Goh Keng Swee (the man who set up our sovereign wealth fund https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-...st-sovereign-funds.328675/page-6#post-9356530) to serve as an economic advisor in China.

Or provide administration training for 50,000 Chinese officials, including Xi himself.

Or continued to invest in China despite calls from Western sanctions after the Tiananmen incident.

Or spoke to two members of Bill Clinton's Cabinet and helped to break the impasse between the US and China on the issue of China entering the WTO.

But I guess since China has already become mighty and strong today, Singapore is just a lapdog of the US in the eyes of nationalistic Chinese.
 
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If he was really anti-China, he wouldn't have advised Deng to open up China when he visited Singapore.

Or send his right hand man Goh Keng Swee (the man who set up our sovereign wealth fund https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-...st-sovereign-funds.328675/page-6#post-9356530) to serve as an economic advisor in China.

Or provide administration training for 50,000 Chinese officials, including Xi himself.

Or continued to invest in China despite calls from Western sanctions after the Tiananmen incident.

Or spoke to two members of Bill Clinton's Cabinet and helped to break the impasse between the US and China on the issue of China entering the WTO.

But I guess now China has already become mighty and strong, and Singapore is just a lapdog of the US in the eyes of nationalistic Chinese.

We don't like Deng anymore, he was a corrupt leader, and his family is the most corrupt cartel in China's history.

Xi Jinping is truly draining the swamp, and the downfall of Anbang is just the beginning, and soon it will be the downfall of Deng's mafia family.

That's why all you anti-China clowns are now trembling in fear in front of a truly rising China.
 
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