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NEW DELHI: India's largest-ever military deal is likely to bring in big business for the private sector with the French side looking to set up a production centre for the Rafale fighter aircraft as well as a low-cost executive jet in India, besides sharing vital aircraft technology for the indigenous Tejas project.
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Officials familiar with the project have told ETthat major partners for this 'Make in India' project are currently being identified by the French side and are likely to include Anil Ambani's Reliance Defence Systems, Noida-based Samtel and Bharat Electronics. These officials, both Indian and French, spoke on the condition they not be identified.
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Spokespersons of the Anil Ambani-led Reliance Group told ET "there is no development". Officials on the French side told ET, on condition of anonymity, that the agreement between Rafale and an Indian partner will be on the lines of the 2012 agreement between the French company and the Mukesh Ambani-led Reliance Industries.
The NDA government had reformatted the UPA government deal and ordered 36 aircraft, instead of 126. The Rafale fighter deal, which will bring in at least $4.5 billion into 'Make in India' projects as per the contract being negotiated, is set to involve a third production line for the aircraft in India, French officials have told ET.

While two lines for the fighter are currently active in France at the same facility, a third line in India would take care of export orders for the fighters and also possible future orders by the Indian Navy and Air Force. The line would also support the production of a low-cost variant of the 'Falcon' executive jet for the Indian and Asian markets.

"It will not be possible to roll out any of the 36 fighters being acquired by India from the production line as it would take time to set up but future orders, including exports, will be fulfilled with the new line," a person involved in the discussions has told ET. "At most, the final painting of the last ten aircraft to be delivered to India could be carried out at the Indian assembly line. This itself is a very high technology process as the fighter has a special anti-radar coat," the person added.
Besides the joint production facilities in India, the French side is also set to transfer some key technologies to DRDO that would benefit the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project. A complete list of the technology to be transferred is being finalised but would include several systems to make the LCA more effective.
Technology to be transferred includes the air intake system for the fighter, an undercarriage for the naval variant of the LCA, cutting edge radar absorbing painting technology as well as an integrated production line software and management system for the fighter aircraft.
While the main Rafale contract is likely to be signed this financial year, as was reported by ET, a separate contract for armament systems will be signed at a later date with French company MBDA. A partnership for transfer of technology and production could be inked with the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) that specialises in advanced armaments.

Engineer-General Stephane Reb, Director of the International Directorate of the DGA (General Directorate for Armament) of the French Ministry of Defence is in New Delhi this week to finalise the inter-governmental agreement draft that is likely to be signed before January 26 when French President Francois Hollande will visit India as the Chief Guest at the Republic Day Parade.

In boost for 'Make in India', Dassault may manufacture Rafale fighter aircraft in India - The Economic Times
@Abingdonboy @Taygibay @PARIKRAMA
 
Yes, it looks like government is making sincere efforts to bring in private enterprise in defence manufacturing sector and if they succeed, it will be a real posterboy for Make in India campaign


Hope a Reliance-Dassault plant happens.

Already India has a big defence aerospace plant coming up with the TATA-Airbus, C295 order.

And recently, India made it so that it will have another armored manufacturing plant with L&T-Samsung, K9 Thunder order.

The days of HAL and OFB doing everything, and anything is slowly, but surely changing.
 
NEW DELHI: India's largest-ever military deal is likely to bring in big business for the private sector with the French side looking to set up a production centre for the Rafale fighter aircraft as well as a low-cost executive jet in India, besides sharing vital aircraft technology for the indigenous Tejas project.
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Officials familiar with the project have told ETthat major partners for this 'Make in India' project are currently being identified by the French side and are likely to include Anil Ambani's Reliance Defence Systems, Noida-based Samtel and Bharat Electronics. These officials, both Indian and French, spoke on the condition they not be identified.
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Spokespersons of the Anil Ambani-led Reliance Group told ET "there is no development". Officials on the French side told ET, on condition of anonymity, that the agreement between Rafale and an Indian partner will be on the lines of the 2012 agreement between the French company and the Mukesh Ambani-led Reliance Industries.
The NDA government had reformatted the UPA government deal and ordered 36 aircraft, instead of 126. The Rafale fighter deal, which will bring in at least $4.5 billion into 'Make in India' projects as per the contract being negotiated, is set to involve a third production line for the aircraft in India, French officials have told ET.

While two lines for the fighter are currently active in France at the same facility, a third line in India would take care of export orders for the fighters and also possible future orders by the Indian Navy and Air Force. The line would also support the production of a low-cost variant of the 'Falcon' executive jet for the Indian and Asian markets.

"It will not be possible to roll out any of the 36 fighters being acquired by India from the production line as it would take time to set up but future orders, including exports, will be fulfilled with the new line," a person involved in the discussions has told ET. "At most, the final painting of the last ten aircraft to be delivered to India could be carried out at the Indian assembly line. This itself is a very high technology process as the fighter has a special anti-radar coat," the person added.
Besides the joint production facilities in India, the French side is also set to transfer some key technologies to DRDO that would benefit the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project. A complete list of the technology to be transferred is being finalised but would include several systems to make the LCA more effective.
Technology to be transferred includes the air intake system for the fighter, an undercarriage for the naval variant of the LCA, cutting edge radar absorbing painting technology as well as an integrated production line software and management system for the fighter aircraft.
While the main Rafale contract is likely to be signed this financial year, as was reported by ET, a separate contract for armament systems will be signed at a later date with French company MBDA. A partnership for transfer of technology and production could be inked with the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) that specialises in advanced armaments.

Engineer-General Stephane Reb, Director of the International Directorate of the DGA (General Directorate for Armament) of the French Ministry of Defence is in New Delhi this week to finalise the inter-governmental agreement draft that is likely to be signed before January 26 when French President Francois Hollande will visit India as the Chief Guest at the Republic Day Parade.

In boost for 'Make in India', Dassault may manufacture Rafale fighter aircraft in India - The Economic Times
@Abingdonboy @Taygibay @PARIKRAMA
Still it will take 5-6 years to properly setup whole infrastructure in india

My friend is aviation engineer in Airforce deployed in one of Northern command AFS tell me that things are not moving that fast what we are seeing in articles he said that air force bound to fly Migs till 2030.
 
Now we are beginning to see some traction and this seems like a Win Win situation. :taz:

1. 50% of money to be invested back in India and all future Rafale's beyond 36 to be Made in India.

2. Kick starting Aerospace by having production line for Falcon Executive Jet.

3. Tech transfer to assist LCA

4. Possible Rafale for Navy to be built in India.

Hmmm.... did India finally mange to tame the Shrew ? Let us see how this plays out in the end.

Falcon Executive Jet,

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Its better India stick with import Rafale first. I bet the first Made in India Rafale will roll off the line on 2022. Can IAF afford that?
 
So... More than 100 rafales will be made in India through reliance- dassault partnership.
 
Its better India stick with import Rafale first. I bet the first Made in India Rafale will roll off the line on 2022. Can IAF afford that?
O yes we could afford that.......the gap for the time being will be filled by LCA tejas a year from now and 2022 is not that far away , is it ?
Just imagine a force that will operate the best of French(Rafale) and Russian technology(Pak FA) in 2020's...........and i'm not even getting into the current inventory
 
O yes we could afford that.......the gap for the time being will be filled by LCA tejas a year from now and 2022 is not that far away , is it ?
Just imagine a force that will operate the best of French(Rafale) and Russian technology(Pak FA) in 2020's...........and i'm not even getting into the current inventory

I just came :enjoy::partay:
 
Its better India stick with import Rafale first. I bet the first Made in India Rafale will roll off the line on 2022. Can IAF afford that?

Are you asking if the IAF can afford Rafale in 2022 ? :P

Indian GDP will be between 5 - 7 Trillion $ by then.
 
Are you asking if the IAF can afford Rafale in 2022 ? :P

Indian GDP will be between 5 - 7 Trillion $ by then.

It not about money. Basically India lack the sophisticated industries to produce production line to support the whole Rafale production. If you want to be 100% made in India. That will include set up of supplier chain line industries, not just ask Dassault to produce a production line will do. It is something money cannot buy in short time.
 
It not about money. Basically India lack the sophisticated industries to produce production line to support the whole Rafale production. If you want to be 100% made in India. That will include set up of supplier chain line industries, not just ask Dassault to produce a production line will do. It is something money cannot buy in short time.
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