in a future conflict with india will pakistans lack of Naval assests cost it defeat?

[Mitro]

I think it's too much for ur small brain
He was talking about sending aircraft towards the target with the help of AWACS .and them using its own radar to launch the attack

I read some genius trying to guide a an ASM through an AWAC . Wasn't it busted before that early warning radar cannot perform a task of guidance radar.

 

[Contrarian]

Yeah do that

 

[danish_vij]

The aircraft carrier looks like nice big target with bulls eye on it

looks can b deceptive

 

[Basel]

We are talking about technological difference between Poseidon and Orions... silly...

This what I m trying to say that purchasing P-3 air frame does not mean that it is equipped with old systems, there is very little difference between both systems and it has been discussed on PDF.

 

[Dem!god]

After spending trillion of dollar with all the modern weapon US was not able to defeat their enemy who ride on donkey.
Indian subs are junk waiting to blow off like time bomb unless scorpion and we know how things work in India .

so, why dont u guys deploy some naval version of donkeys... so that u can easily defeat indian navy and then US navy and become the true blue water navy...sry... its blue donkey navy... which can power project anywhere in world.... with unique swiming donkey power.. ..

 

[Basel]

Basel.
By including Chinease fighters your actually admitting without china you guys stand no chance at sea.

Every country need military equipment to fight war, just like India is purchasing it from around the world Pakistan purchase majority of its equipment from China as we get it cheap as per our requirement and in many cases with TOT, also Chinese flankers come in spot light of PAF after increase of IN air capabilities which will be supported by huge fleet of IAF, due to combat radius and stand off weapons they will allow PAF to go after IN fleet even if they are quite far from our EEZ or international border. This will allow PN to send P-3s in coordination with PAF to hunt subs and ships in far from coast line and will be more trouble for IAF too.

I read some genius trying to guide a an ASM through an AWAC . Wasn't it busted before that early warning radar cannot perform a task of guidance radar.

Its not about guiding in true sense, it is similar to cuing if to the target HMS may be good example to understand what I m trying to say.

So no pressure we are happy with progress , and imporvements in Pakistan Navy

Indians can't digest that in limited resources PN can fulfill the task it is given to it and it is not taking control of sea or hitting enemy harbors it is denying enemy to do a blockade.

 

[danger007]

This what I m trying to say that purchasing P-3 air frame does not mean that it is equipped with old systems, there is very little difference between both systems and it has been discussed on PDF.

oh my god.. you are talking like kid... P3c Orions isn't advanced as P8 I... Poseidon are whole new generation platform. ..

Every country need military equipment to fight war, just like India is purchasing it from around the world Pakistan purchase majority of its equipment from China as we get it cheap as per our requirement and in many cases with TOT, also Chinese flankers come in spot light of PAF after increase of IN air capabilities which will be supported by huge fleet of IAF, due to combat radius and stand off weapons they will allow PAF to go after IN fleet even if they are quite far from our EEZ or international border. This will allow PN to send P-3s in coordination with PAF to hunt subs and ships in far from coast line and will be more trouble for IAF too.



Its not about guiding in true sense, it is similar to cuing if to the target HMS may be good example to understand what I m trying to say.



Indians can't digest that in limited resources PN can fulfill the task it is given to it and it is not taking control of sea or hitting enemy harbors it is denying enemy to do a blockade.

why are you thinking China will get involved in your conflict. .. either your kid or you have zero knowledge ... China is purely business mind... they are yet to develop lot.. do you really think .. they will handover Flankers to Pakistan just like that..
incompetence. .. still you are saying we can't digest... lol

 

[Basel]

Pure speculations these,You should have put some extra masala into the equation..maybe be some J-XX

Its not speculation that PAF will go for Chinese Flankers in case of extreme emergency because they know they need a long range powerful fighter jet to tackle threat at sea, because IN & IAF combined will be big hassle for PN & PAF combined, that is one reason PAF have sent its staff to be trained on Chinese Flankers and they are even flying Su-30s there, PAF don't have these birds so why send staff to be trained on them?? if they want to know Flankers then they continuously exercise against them since few years.

Sukhoi Su-30MKK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Shenyang J-11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oh my god.. you are talking like kid... P3c Orions isn't advanced as P8 I... Poseidon are whole new generation platform. ..

Feel free what you like, but trust me they are so advance (new ones + upgraded ones) that PN have to send staff to US for training as they were not able to perform their job with out training on new equipment.

why are you thinking China will get involved in your conflict. .. either your kid or you have zero knowledge ... China is purely business mind... they are yet to develop lot.. do you really think .. they will handover Flankers to Pakistan just like that..
incompetence. .. still you are saying we can't digest... lol

They will not get involved but they will give us equipment what we need to fight our war, and they have done it before.

 

[danger007]

Its not speculation that PAF will go for Chinese Flankers in case of extreme emergency because they know they need a long range powerful fighter jet to tackle threat at sea, because IN & IAF combined will be big hassle for PN & PAF combined, that is one reason PAF have sent its staff to be trained on Chinese Flankers and they are even flying Su-30s there, PAF don't have these birds so why send staff to be trained on them?? if they want to know Flankers then they continuously exercise against them since few years.

Sukhoi Su-30MKK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Shenyang J-11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Feel free what you like, but trust me they are so advance (new ones + upgraded ones) that PN have to send staff to US for training as they were not able to perform their job with out training on new equipment.

IN and IAF also get trained with USAF and USN. .. your point is.... We got Singapore F 16's stationed in India .. We will use them... and the Rafale...

Its not speculation that PAF will go for Chinese Flankers in case of extreme emergency because they know they need a long range powerful fighter jet to tackle threat at sea, because IN & IAF combined will be big hassle for PN & PAF combined, that is one reason PAF have sent its staff to be trained on Chinese Flankers and they are even flying Su-30s there, PAF don't have these birds so why send staff to be trained on them?? if they want to know Flankers then they continuously exercise against them since few years.

Sukhoi Su-30MKK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.
Shenyang J-11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Feel free what you like, but trust me they are so advance (new ones + upgraded ones) that PN have to send staff to US for training as they were not able to perform their job with out training on new equipment.



They will not get involved but they will give us equipment what we need to fight our war, and they have done it before.

they might supply ammunition and other stuff... but your expectations is beyond the limit... it shows Pak can't survive with China involvement. ..

 

[Basel]

IN and IAF also get trained with USAF and USN. .. your point is.... We got Singapore F 16's stationed in India .. We will use them... and the Rafale..

I did not said what you understand.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Truly a low quality thread and arguments are highly illogical

 

[Basel]

they might supply ammunition and other stuff... but your expectations is beyond the limit... it shows Pak can't survive with China involvement. ..

They will as they have invested heavily in Pakistan and planing to do more, they will not allow IN to disturb their future sea route to Kashgar, thing are quite different now, in next 5 to 10 years blockade of sea lines of Pakistan will be a pipe dream of India, just wait and watch.

 

[danger007]

Truly a low quality thread and arguments are highly illogical

enjoy it bro.. thread started as IN vs PN. . now Chinese flankers arrived into picture...

I did not said what you understand.

you might get trained in flankers but you will not mature that platform with few hours training. .. let me know if PAF get trained with dedicated flankers .... I meant if china spare a flanker fleet for PAF training. .

They will as they have invested heavily in Pakistan and planing to do more, they will not allow IN to disturb their future sea route to Kashgar, thing are quite different now, in next 5 to 10 years blockade of sea lines of Pakistan will be a pipe dream of India, just wait and watch.

they are investing more in India ... planning joint ventures with India in Afghan ..

planning to pour billions of dollars again. . In next 5 to 10 years India will have larger fleet with 2 complete CBG .... along with new subs including nuclear sub... Destroyers ... Corvette ... more number of jets ... more ASW stuff.... Air launched version of Brahmos (miniature version with increased range).... Simply more vessels which is nightmare for PN.

 

[Basel]

you might get trained in flankers but you will not mature that platform with few hours training. .. let me know if PAF get trained with dedicated flankers .... I meant if china spare a flanker fleet for PAF training.

PAF pilots are continuously posted in China and flying PLAAFs planes. F-16.net link was share here in this regard. If I find it will post it.

they are investing more in India ... planning joint ventures with India in Afghan ..
planning to pour billions of dollars again. .

If you think that then why cry on string of pearls??

 

[Informant]

Truly a low quality thread and arguments are highly illogical