Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ;3300357 said:
Mongolian still live in their ancestors lands (Mongolia), just lost some lands to the hands of China, while people in Singapore, Macedonia don't live in their ancestor lands. And Macedonia people today were Thrace-Ilyrian people, then Alexander come and you know.
Luckily we haven't attacked and dominated you in the past or now we will be called "Chinese"
And this is my last words to you:
I don't know why you guys want Mongol Empire to be a part of your history.
That time, Mongolian came from outside of The Great Wall, occupied and dominated your ancestors. Now you call Mongolian as Chinese just because some of their lands are being occupied by you.
You try to save face, but in fact, it means that your people were all cowards so they didn't dare to fight back invaders. Today you recognize your invaders as fathers just to save face. It proves that you Chinese only can bully small nations and run away of bigger nations, unlike Vietnamese who always fight with big bully.
OK, now stop talking about Mongolia, I won't reply you anymore about that.
Now, what is your claim over SCS based on? It's
Pirate Laws.
If you Chinese are human beings, follow the International Laws, prove your claim by real evidences, not invisible evidences, or else stop bullying others and get out of SCS.
Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ;3300357 said:
Mongolian still live in their ancestors lands (Mongolia), just lost some lands to the hands of China, while people in Singapore, Macedonia don't live in their ancestor lands. And Macedonia people today were Thrace-Ilyrian people, then Alexander come and you know.
Luckily we haven't attacked and dominated you in the past or now we will be called "Chinese"
And this is my last words to you:
I don't know why you guys want Mongol Empire to be a part of your history.
That time, Mongolian came from outside of The Great Wall, occupied and dominated your ancestors. Now you call Mongolian as Chinese just because some of their lands are being occupied by you.
You try to save face, but in fact, it means that your people were all cowards so they didn't dare to fight back invaders. Today you recognize your invaders as fathers just to save face. It proves that you Chinese only can bully small nations and run away of bigger nations, unlike Vietnamese who always fight with big bully.
OK, now stop talking about Mongolia, I won't reply you anymore about that.
Now, what is your claim over SCS based on? It's
Pirate Laws.
If you Chinese are human beings, follow the International Laws, prove your claim by real evidences, not invisible evidences, or else stop bullying others and get out of SCS.
And give me a break, according to your stupid logic, the normans are not British and not part of the british history? And at least half of the vietnamese are NOT real viet, they are the descendent of the Khmer empire and other Hinduism kingdoms that Vietnam have invaded, which are about 2/3 of the entire current vietnam, original veitnam are only that tiny little area in the north, so most of the current veit arent even real viet, they just today you recognize your invaders as fathers just to save face. You think nobody knew about your vietnamese history except for your self glorifying history books? lol, what a joke.
The only time you viet ever won a war with china was when China was locked in a civilwar at the same time, and ofc the propaganda about Vietnam won the 1979 war, lol, just go count the battles outcome of each battles and casulty numbers of both side then you know who won. Chinese army despite coming right out of the devastating Culture revolutions took over several vietnamese cities and was right outside of your capital boarder while vietnamese army was either crushed or hiding in cambodja cities, it's not like you were anywhere near a chinese city.
What exact evidence does vietnam got over the SCS islands? When chinese sailors and fleets of gaint ships were sailing over those area, you people were still using small boats that couldnt even leave the sight of the coast! You respect international law first before talking about it with China, otherwise you people really should shut up! Your ultra nationalism doesnt work here!
And aswering to the thread opener's question:
If Vietnam want a war, china wont instigate it but we sure will finish it! Chinese airbase are NOT too far from those island, with airrefueler, chinese airforce's range are about 2200km, from Hainan it can cover about all but the south most few islands, a hit and run tactic means full war with China and chinese missiles can easily take out every air and naval base in entire vietnam, that with the land based ballistic missile alone could do the job, without base no naval ships can operate, big or small, besides, china got about 600 fast attack boats, veitnam only got a few dozen, also china are planning 3-6 aircraft carrier, the trainer varyag not even included, a single AC carries enough aircraft(40-50) to provide airsuperiority together with AWACS(which range can include the entire SCS without refueling from Hainan), should also keep in mind that chinese aircraft can also land and take off from islands in SCSthat have a run way, like Sansha's Yongxin island. And chinese corvette and FAC can also do hit and run tactics, not only Vietnam.
China are not trying to get a bunch of lapdog countries like the imperialist USA so it can create or keep hegemony over the world, WE ARE NOT INSTRESTED! So we DONT need lapdog allies, fake friends, only a few real friends, so diplomaticly, there is only so much a crises can really do to china, the line of shipping was never a problem, china have just as much instrest in keeping the line open as anyone else, but really just a excuse for US to get involved, but if US are willing to fight for the supposed reason, China should have EVEN more reason to fight to secure it, besides what can the US or anybody else do? It's nothing but a bluff, to get some of china's advasaries in the area to get more confident, namely Vietnam and Philipine, but there really arent much they can do, Chinese military can defend itself near 2000km of it's coast, even vs the USN, Within 2000km of chinese coast, China will win vs anybody now already, 10-20 years from now, it will be so even more.
That was all out of the military point of the view, economic and politically, the chance that US or anybody else starting a war with China for either vietnam or Phlipine's territorial claim are slight to none, period, all the instigation and in the end all you will get is verbal support. A big bluff, the so called moving 60% of the naval asset to Asia pascific by 2020 annoncement by the US are a great bluff too, in reality it basicly means that by 2020, only 8 more ships will been moved over, not something that will scare china into sleepless exactly.
But ofc after the recent big bluff by the US china are still getting more concerned, therefore a large wave of naval ship was ordered, 50-60 type056 corvette are planned, at least 7 more type052c destroyers can we already see on shipyards been laid simutainously with probably more coming, at the same time type054 stealth Frigate are still been built nonestop, type 095 and 096 nuclear subs are been double laid according to latest satellit photos, and only haven knows how many conventional Subs china are building to add up on the 60+ existing sub fleet. As I see it, China really got nothing to worry about been able to take and guard the islands in SCS. Even now, the only thing that keep Chinese retaking of those Vietnamese held islands are Chinas benevolence and a wish for continuied peaceful development, but just keep antagonize China like you people have been doing, you might just get what you want one day soon, just not exactly what you hade in mind though.
Have a nice day.
) Then I can claim Han, Tang, Song, Ming ... muahahaha ...
