If there is a war between China - Viet Nam in SCS

[ChinaToday]

We have to resist the bullying of China for thousands of years, and we were not only survived but also many times killing over 100,000 invaders in every battle, and force you to kneel.

Just because you are "a chicken that lays golden eggs" for them, while we are not.

hahaha ok ok you make a few chinese POW kneel down but the thing is we make your entire nation kneel down for thousands of years even your great grand parents had to kneel down hahaha

Just because you are "a chicken that lays golden eggs" for them, while we are not.

you are right we are rich and powerful and you are poor weak and pathetic thank you for admit it

 

[gpit]

I dont understand why you still dont admit that Mongol Empire conquered and ruled over China.

Have you ever read "Stories of Ah Q" of Lu Xun, a Chinese writer?

I think internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ. Even big mouth Indians are only second to them: because the Indians can still face their history and say yes our history is not complete

How internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ?

Here is how:
1) Vietnamese presumably now rely on handful Chinese language specialists for interpreting their history (all written in Chinese) and distorting their history, and fooling their people by say that Vietnam history is a history of victory against their northern neighbor only. They start to brag their history with only half page in Wiki.

2) Due to their lack of history, when they pump the idea of breaking up China, they do not know that China had been broken up several times in history, and each time it reunited and became bigger, and each time it reunited Vietnam became a province of China or a vassal country of China to less degree. For instance, when Qin broke up, Chinese Zhao Tuo took over Vietnamese tribes and subjected them to his rule, but when Han Dynasty Came and reunited China, Vietnam became long time a province of China. When Ming arose to reunite China from Yuan, majority, if not all, Vietnamese history became part of Chinese history collection. 《越史略》(Việt sử lược) is such a book.

3) Văn Lang (文郎&#22269 issue is one of the typical Vietnamese AQ characters. In fact 《越史略》 (A book finished around 1400AD with unknown author(s), Đại Việt sử lược was still preserved in its original form and was published in the Siku Quanshu (欽定四庫全&#26360 of the Qing Dynasty under the name Việt sử lược, the first character Đại (大, means Great) was left out to suit the Chinese notion of propriety and historical tradition. Dai Viet su luoc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) first talked about this "state" which presumably came into existence around 2879BC! It is still a myth whether the “state” existed ever. A simple question posed by a Vietnamese historian can stymie the AQs easily: 文郎国 had 18 雄王(Hùng Kings) ベトナãƒ*帝王一覧 - Wikipedia, so the average life of each the king would be 150 years! This only indicates that Văn Lang is more legendary than real. Then comes out someone saying well maybe there were many 雄王 share the same name! Ok, ok! But, while this is still in debate, Vietnamese communists AQ can't wait but officially formalize it as standard Veit history.

4) Văn Lang might exist, but the size is more like this:

I.e. 1/4th of bird poo size Korea.

But Vietnamese AQ said it is like this:

see the AQ's post here http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/193123-vietnam-solution-18.html#post3240661

In conclusion, I feel bad for those history-less AQs… In fact history is there, in Chinese, but those from the history abandoned their own history and degrade themselves into laughing stock AQs.

 

[NiceGuy]

In conclusion, I feel bad for those history-less AQs… In fact history is there, in Chinese, but those from the history abandoned their own history and degrade themselves into laughing stock AQs.

Hehe, you can lies about our history from thousand years ago, but you can't lies the history of 1979 when everyone including your boss that time-US agreed that china lost badly in 1979 and you fellows in Laos-Camb-border of Thailand were killed, looted badly, too

PLAAF was just a junk but chinese here still belive that they didn't wanna use PLAAF during that war, how brainwashed they are

 

[EastSea]

I think internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ. Even big mouth Indians are only second to them: because the Indians can still face their history and say yes our history is not complete

How internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ?

Here is how:
1) Vietnamese presumably now rely on handful Chinese language specialists for interpreting their history (all written in Chinese) and distorting their history, and fooling their people by say that Vietnam history is a history of victory against their northern neighbor only. They start to brag their history with only half page in Wiki.

2) Due to their lack of history, when they pump the idea of breaking up China, they do not know that China had been broken up several times in history, and each time it reunited and became bigger, and each time it reunited Vietnam became a province of China or a vassal country of China to less degree. For instance, when Qin broke up, Chinese Zhao Tuo took over Vietnamese tribes and subjected them to his rule, but when Han Dynasty Came and reunited China, Vietnam became long time a province of China. When Ming arose to reunite China from Yuan, majority, if not all, Vietnamese history became part of Chinese history collection. 《越史略》(Việt sử lược) is such a book.

3) Văn Lang (文郎&#22269 issue is one of the typical Vietnamese AQ characters. In fact 《越史略》 (A book finished around 1400AD with unknown author(s), Đại Việt sử lược was still preserved in its original form and was published in the Siku Quanshu (欽定四庫全&#26360 of the Qing Dynasty under the name Việt sử lược, the first character Đại (大, means Great) was left out to suit the Chinese notion of propriety and historical tradition. Dai Viet su luoc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) first talked about this "state" which presumably came into existence around 2879BC! It is still a myth whether the “state” existed ever. A simple question posed by a Vietnamese historian can stymie the AQs easily: 文郎国 had 18 雄王(Hùng Kings) ベトナãƒ*帝王一覧 - Wikipedia, so the average life of each the king would be 150 years! This only indicates that Văn Lang is more legendary than real. Then comes out someone saying well maybe there were many 雄王 share the same name! Ok, ok! But, while this is still in debate, Vietnamese communists AQ can't wait but officially formalize it as standard Veit history.

4) Văn Lang might exist, but the size is more like this:

I.e. 1/4th of bird poo size Korea.

But Vietnamese AQ said it is like this:

see the AQ's post here http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/193123-vietnam-solution-18.html#post3240661

In conclusion, I feel bad for those history-less AQs… In fact history is there, in Chinese, but those from the history abandoned their own history and degrade themselves into laughing stock AQs.

1). Vietnam history is a history of victory against their northern neighbor,. It’s truth. That is explained, why Vietnam is small country but still existed independent state nearby big country like China.
2) 《大越史略》was name of our history book, Chinese has been stolen from Viet, this book found in china. Chinese has been modified, the name became 《越史略》. In the past Chinese invaded into Vietnam many time, Chinese burn all our books, our hand script was lost. Therefore the lack of ancient history books was crime of Chinese invaders.
3) Van Lang and Huaxia was myth in history of both China and Vietnam.
4) Our History book,大越史記全書 is title of our History book "Đại Việt Sử ký toàn thư" or "Great Viet full History" stated from ancient time Van Lang territory's north point of Văn Lang reached to Dongding Lake.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

hahaha ok ok you make a few chinese POW kneel down but the thing is we make your entire nation kneel down for thousands of years even your great grand parents had to kneel down hahaha

Just because you are "a chicken that lays golden eggs" for them, while we are not.

you are right we are rich and powerful and you are poor weak and pathetic thank you for admit it

We never kneel down before the chinese, even had to accept as a vassal state of China for about 1000 years to avoid having to always fight against with tactics "Human Wave" of China year after year. Every time, when China required excessively and has not been accepted by the kings of Vietnam, China to send troops to invade Vietnam, and was defeated.
In each battle, we killed countless Chinese troops, and then a peace come back to the two countries. But when the fear has gone, China continued to seek opportunities to invade Vietnam and the history that such repeated.

Battle of Hanoi

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

I think internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ. Even big mouth Indians are only second to them: because the Indians can still face their history and say yes our history is not complete

How internet Vietnamese are the biggest AQ?

Here is how:
1) Vietnamese presumably now rely on handful Chinese language specialists for interpreting their history (all written in Chinese) and distorting their history, and fooling their people by say that Vietnam history is a history of victory against their northern neighbor only. They start to brag their history with only half page in Wiki.

2) Due to their lack of history, when they pump the idea of breaking up China, they do not know that China had been broken up several times in history, and each time it reunited and became bigger, and each time it reunited Vietnam became a province of China or a vassal country of China to less degree. For instance, when Qin broke up, Chinese Zhao Tuo took over Vietnamese tribes and subjected them to his rule, but when Han Dynasty Came and reunited China, Vietnam became long time a province of China. When Ming arose to reunite China from Yuan, majority, if not all, Vietnamese history became part of Chinese history collection. 《越史略》(Việt sử lược) is such a book.

3) Văn Lang (文郎&#22269 issue is one of the typical Vietnamese AQ characters. In fact 《越史略》 (A book finished around 1400AD with unknown author(s), Đại Việt sử lược was still preserved in its original form and was published in the Siku Quanshu (欽定四庫全&#26360 of the Qing Dynasty under the name Việt sử lược, the first character Đại (大, means Great) was left out to suit the Chinese notion of propriety and historical tradition. Dai Viet su luoc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) first talked about this "state" which presumably came into existence around 2879BC! It is still a myth whether the “state” existed ever. A simple question posed by a Vietnamese historian can stymie the AQs easily: 文郎国 had 18 雄王(Hùng Kings) ベトナãƒ*帝王一覧 - Wikipedia, so the average life of each the king would be 150 years! This only indicates that Văn Lang is more legendary than real. Then comes out someone saying well maybe there were many 雄王 share the same name! Ok, ok! But, while this is still in debate, Vietnamese communists AQ can't wait but officially formalize it as standard Veit history.

4) Văn Lang might exist, but the size is more like this:

I.e. 1/4th of bird poo size Korea.

But Vietnamese AQ said it is like this:

see the AQ's post here http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/193123-vietnam-solution-18.html#post3240661

In conclusion, I feel bad for those history-less AQs… In fact history is there, in Chinese, but those from the history abandoned their own history and degrade themselves into laughing stock AQs.

My Chinaman friend, you do not understand the story of Ah Q.
Ah Q is a guy who always uphold "psychological triumph or spiritual victory" while he always fail in practice.

We have many victories in practice, not in imagination as the Chinese.
Let me view ONE "victory" against the foreign invaders of your "great" China?

 

[asean_2015]

But China is not better than us: China was ruled by Mongolian, Manchuria; was divided by 6 powers like a big cake; was crushed by Japan; was colonized the West until 1997 and 1999; and now still not reunification...

[China was ruled by Mongolian, Manchuria]
This makes no sense at all,
how could "Prussia rules Germany" and "Mugual rules India".

I guess it will be easier to be accepted by Chinese when you said Han Chinese was ruled by Mongols, Manchus.

 

[asean_2015]

My Chinaman friend, you do not understand the story of Ah Q.
Ah Q is a guy who always uphold "psychological triumph or spiritual victory" while he always fail in practice.

We have many victories in practice, not in imagination as the Chinese.
Let me view ONE "victory" against the foreign invaders of your "great" China?

Let's take a simple example to discuss. The war 1979 happened not so long time ago and both China and Vietnam said that they were winners.
Personally I think that if China could invade Vietnam at that time, China would do that and vice versa if Vietnam could take back some historical territories (which belong to China nowadays), Vietnam would do that. The question is that if China was victorious, why Chinese army must withdraw from North of Vietnam. If Vietnam was victorious, why Vietnames army did not try to take back some historical territories.

 

[Snomannen]

I guess it will be easier to be accepted by Chinese when you said Han Chinese was ruled by Mongols, Manchus.

Not 100% correct, since there were even Mongolian slaves in Yuan Dynasty.
You can only say that the ruler were Mongols/ Manchus during the period.

Nowadays the ruler of China is Han, but you cannot say that Mongolian and Manchu people are ruled by Han.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Not 100% correct, since there were even Mongolian slaves in Yuan Dynasty.
You can only say that the ruler were Mongols/ Manchus during the period.

Nowadays the ruler of China is Han, but you cannot say that Mongolian and Manchu people are ruled by Han.

It seems you are always confused between a ethnic and a country.
Today, Mongolians live in China (Mongolian-Chinese) is different from Mongolia country....

This map shows the boundary of 13th century Mongol Empire compared to today's Mongols in Mongolia, Russia, the Central Asian States and China.

Mongol Empire

Mongolia today.

 

[Snomannen]

Let's take a simple example to discuss. The war 1979 happened not so long time ago and both China and Vietnam said that they were winners.
Personally I think that if China could invade Vietnam at that time, China would do that and vice versa if Vietnam could take back some historical territories (which belong to China nowadays), Vietnam would do that. The question is that if China was victorious, why Chinese army must withdraw from North of Vietnam. If Vietnam was victorious, why Vietnames army did not try to take back some historical territories.

Vietname is not a nation that can be defeated easily (most of the time). Since they were divided from China, it has always been the "big guy of the SEAsia".

The CCP said they have already "punished" the "betrayer" (Soviet side).

As for the historical territories, there is no Vietnam's historical territories in China's land at all.

It seems you are always confused between a ethnic and a country.
Today, Mongolians live in China (Mongolian-Chinese) is different from Mongolia country....

Ethnic is ethnic, country is country, no confusion at all.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Let's take a simple example to discuss. The war 1979 happened not so long time ago and both China and Vietnam said that they were winners.
Personally I think that if China could invade Vietnam at that time, China would do that and vice versa if Vietnam could take back some historical territories (which belong to China nowadays), Vietnam would do that. The question is that if China was victorious, why Chinese army must withdraw from North of Vietnam. If Vietnam was victorious, why Vietnames army did not try to take back some historical territories.

Victory or failure which is not based on "said" or "statement" of each side. That must based on actual battlefield, goals achieved, casualties and loss ...

At that time both side had no goal to occupy territories. China wanted to save its allies Khmer Rouge. While regular forces of Vietnam was being in Cambodia.

Vietnam does not claim any "historical territory" on China's mainland.

Currently, only two of Vietnam's territories which are occupied illegally by China, that are Paracels Islands and some parts of Spratlys Islands.

 

[$@rJen]

I don't think PLAN has no air support, but how its will deploy when the distance from Hainan to SCS Islands? It's easy to get Viet Nam Jet Interceptors from the ways its going back to Hainan, nor Air Refuelers will being shots by air-to-air missiles.

If China use missiles to destroy Viet Nam air base, then that will considering declare full scale of war. Viet Nam has no choice to deploy ground force to defense its Air bases.



What if there is no allies due to the economic crisis all over the World. Viet Nam can not lean for something, someone for its independence, and for the freedom of Vietnamese people.

Viet Nam will not that type of luxury thinking.

Well why not all the other countries having problem with the aggressvie china in SCS tieup together, why not fight back together if they come to take your island, infact sooner or later it'll (china taking other's island) take other countries islands once they're succesfull with Vietnam, if all you get together china'll think twice before getting dirty,,,even they've to think about their economy, i don't think they'll risk putting down the economy with fighting wars atleast for now,....
in other hand vietnam should get help from india to improve its fleets and Airforce, and i think their army is strong enough to defend its country, china'll have to think twice befor having a land war if the occssion calls for it.....

 

[$@rJen]

""""Why on Earth would China want a war?

We are the ones gaining the most from the current global status quo. We are adding more to our economy every single year than anyone else in the world. It would be stupid of us to rock the boat when things are going so well.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...tween-china-viet-nam-scs-3.html#ixzz23EeFb85J

you're preparing the Economy just to fight with India and USA in near future..

 

[ChinaToday]

We never kneel down before the chinese, even had to accept as a vassal state of China for about 1000 years to avoid having to always fight against with tactics "Human Wave" of China year after year. Every time, when China required excessively and has not been accepted by the kings of Vietnam, China to send troops to invade Vietnam, and was defeated.
In each battle, we killed countless Chinese troops, and then a peace come back to the two countries. But when the fear has gone, China continued to seek opportunities to invade Vietnam and the history that such repeated.

Battle of Hanoi

Hahaha now you even denied you been colonized by us man gpit is right you viettrolls are worse than indians