If the Generals knew the India role in regime change, could it be stopped, evoking some India centric Ghairat.

[N.Siddiqui]

yes and no... his hands were partially tied up. e.g. the Election commissioner was pressured by the army to be hired.

there was a lot of interference and meddling by Bajwa since day one.

Many educated members in IK team.

Sania nishter starting the ehsaas program is a PhD.

There are many PhDs inducted in health and finance, not known.

The Punjab health minister Yasmin Rashid was very competent.

There are dozens, rather hundreds of capable personal inducted.

A few black sheeps results in more noises.

And the end of the day, economy was doing well, nothing was more important.

Jobs, industry, SME, LSM, textiles, pharma, Auto, construction, you name it, it was growing and booming.

Textile sector due to huge orders couldn't make it was expanding.

you are replying to an idiot who does not even deserve to be here. filth blows filth out of the mouth.

you have to ignore brainless rats.

Just to reply to others, engage with someone else.

Kuch samajh nahi aaya. Khan said don't compromise on principles and still appointed biggest daaku as President of his party. If that is not compromising principles, then what is ? Please write your response in Urdu ( in Roman script) if you can't explain your ideas in English.

Paaji, don't put extra, undue burden on your brain, it might get stunted, if it isn't as yet.

 

[PradoTLC]

Many educated members in IK team.

Sania nishter starting the ehsaas program is a PhD.

There are many PhDs inducted in health and finance, not known.

The Punjab health minister Yasmin Rashid was very competent.

There are dozens, rather hundreds of capable personal inducted.

A few black sheeps results in more noises.

And the end of the day, economy was doing well, nothing was more important.

Jobs, industry, SME, LSM, textiles, pharma, Auto, construction, you name it, it was growing and booming.

Textile sector due to huge orders couldn't make it was expanding.


Just to reply to others, engage with someone else.


Paaji, don't put extra, undue burden on your brain, it might get stunt

I know.. that is my point despite all the legacy issue he had do deal with I personally think he did a remarkable job especially as a first timer.

 

[Paji]

Don't compromise on your principles.

Compromise for your principles.

Just to make it simple, he, IK said this.

Very good. That is exactly what the PMLN , PPP, Pakistani military and the rest of establishment has been doing - compromising for their principles.

Padi

better than being a mass murder as head of state?.. no?

Are you talking about Yahya or Bhutto ?

 

[Ghessan]

Just to reply to others, engage with someone else.

no i'm not, i don't give a shit to them.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Very good. That is exactly what the PMLN , PPP, Pakistani military and the rest of establishment has been doing - compromising for their principles.

Just as Jinnah did to get Pakistan, he compromised with Britishers, with Gandhi, with India, and with Muslims to achieve a bigger goal.

Imran Khan was compromising with the establishment, the elephant in the room, to reach a bigger goal.

 

[PradoTLC]

Are you talking about Yahya or Bhutto ?

modi

 

[VkdIndian]

the very fact you are trying to convince your self Khan was good for india says it all...

Indians have varied opinion on IK. I consider him good for your nation domestically on aspects but bad also in few others. One thing is universal - and that is his poor handling of external affairs.

just as he started to put the heat on india

Heat How? By giving speeches? Or organising protest by civilians in your part of Kashmir? What you all need to understand is that none of his actions or speeches had any impact internationally. Nations decide their plan based on the inputs of their high commissions and diplomats and not by speeches of a PM. It was during his time that Modi went to Saudi and UAE and was given a royal welcome that IK can’t even dream of. You remember him driving around MBS? How stupid was that?

his hands were partially tied up

That is his problem. He decided to get into politics and he was given the vote to rule. He had to find the solutions to all the issues. If he couldn’t, then he has to answer. No crying here and blaming others, can take away the responsibilities that came with the power. He failed miserably by choosing an incompetent team. A team that failed on most fronts.

There was only one good thing in him - It was that he meant well for your nation and wasn’t corrupt. He still remains the best bet for your nation.

As far as India goes - he was inconsequential. A small fry who kept trying to portray himself, what he wasn‘t.

 

[Paji]

Just as Jinnah did to get Pakistan, he compromised with Britishers, with Gandhi, with India, and with Muslims to achieve a bigger goal.

Imran Khan was compromising with the establishment, the elephant in the room, to reach a bigger goal.

And look how Pakistan turned out. East and West Pakistan were at each other's throats within a few years of Jinnah's death. That is what happens when you make unprincipled compromises.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

no i'm not, i don't give a shit to them.

You need to engage with people even to insult them, to debunk them, to don't give a shit.

And to break their propaganda, the media falsehood, which India is an expert.

Just quitting and keeping quiet would be counter productive.

 

[PradoTLC]

One thing is universal and that is his poor handling of external affairs.

Really?..

I believe that was his best part... it had it's costs but there would have been net gain.. think Pakistanis would not suffer massive inflation due to cheap gas and wheat from Russia.. and more importantly we would have been out of USA's clutch forever. A good thing

 

[N.Siddiqui]

And look how Pakistan turned out. East and West Pakistan were at each other's throats within a few years of Jinnah's death. That is what happens when you make unprincipled compromises.

Jinnah had nothing to do with it. It was a Bhutto narcissist thought to rule and establishment idiotic thought that they can do it with force.

A convergence of stupidity.

 

[PradoTLC]

And look how Pakistan turned out. East and West Pakistan were at each other's throats within a few years of Jinnah's death. That is what happens when you make unprincipled compromises.

@ Padi

Jinnah did his job... it was the duffers who later took the mantle screwed up.

 

[Paji]

modi

Lol, Modi is neither a mass murderer nor a head of state. Please don't display your utter ignorance in public.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Lol, Modi is neither a mass murderer nor a head of state. Please don't display your utter ignorance in public.

Why was than he called the Butcher of Gujrat.

That large scale killing of Muslims led Modi to become a Hindutva leader, anti Muslim, and later to become the PM of Bharat.

That Gujrat massacre was his biggest achievement, a political game changer.

 

[Paji]

Jinnah had nothing to do with it. It was a Bhutto narcissist thought to rule and establishment idiotic thought that they can do it with force.

A convergence of stupidity.

Jinnah created an unnatural state that was suspectible to being broken up by the slightest tension. Even if Bhutto had allowed Mujib to take power, the implementation of the six point programme would ultimately have led to separation. It might have been less bloody, but it was inevitable.