If the Generals knew the India role in regime change, could it be stopped, evoking some India centric Ghairat.

[VkdIndian]

during his time India's image got tarnished more than time in living memory. Khan was the first one to expose India's hindu Taliban culture with his interview with NYT. then all main stream media started reporting it..

Paksiatnis get carried away by bombastic speeches. Only people getting impressed by IK’s big mouth speeches were Pakistanis.

In international arena, people were not waiting for IK to make speeches, for them to know what is happening in this region. It is same IK who never got a phone call from Biden and it was same IK during whose tenure, Modi was given highest awards by many Muslim countries.
It is same IK who used a Saudi jet to visit US and that jet was withdrawn to show him his place.

Please don’t think that he had become so large an international figure. In fact, he was considered a naive politician by many international publications for opening his mouth a bit too much. He jumped the gun on many issues, a little too early. US bases in Pakistan was a glaring one.

He was good for your nation, since he has a clean image and he meant well. But he failed there too. He chose a team of incapable people who couldn’t do their job well. He gave extension to Bajwa, which was a massive miscalculation.

When 370 was repealed and your awam wanted action, he had apparently asked - “should I attack India? We don’t have leverage on this issue”. Shows how poorly he was advised on the issue. It was later that he woke up and tried to organise black day and closing of trade etc. Even that was a poor decision considering adverse impact on your economy which was already at the edge. He couldn’t keep nations interest above politics while taking that decision.

 

[Paji]

@ Padi

we all know you are standard hendooo bendooo idiot.. who knows as much about geo strategic affairs as much as a Indian tea boy. However you consider your self lucky that a Low calibre clown like you is being educated by some one like me.

now in your next post you need to explain in a cohesive manner how Khan's policy harmed Pakistan.

in the absence of a sensible replay from you would joined in the annals of typical indian idiot that you people are so notorious for.

Lol , I am not going to provide any "replay" to an idiot like you. Continue being a Y-boy.

 

[Jaeger]

I am half convinced you might be on the payroll of our famed ISPR...

By your logic, if a popularly elected leader is removed unconstitutionally by the army, he or she should give up his mandate because if he does not, the public will support him and that will lead to chaos.

Do you see how stupid that sounds or do you need it rephrased to see the absolute folly of your argument even more clearly?

It is not stupid, It is way things work in Pakistan, and have so for 6 decades.

Don't get me wrong, I am all of Imran khan getting out of jail and getting back into power.

 

[Paji]

In fact, he was considered a naive politician by many international publications for opening his mouth a bit too much

Yes, the reason that all the international reporters liked to interview Khan was
1) He was willing to give any and everyone with white skin an interview
2) he could be relied on to say something sensational and contrary to Pakistan's formal diplomatic position and thus provide eyeballs and ratings for the interviewers.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Paksiatnis get carried away by bombastic speeches. Only people getting impressed by IK’s big mouth speeches were Pakistanis.

In international arena, people were no waiting for IK to make speeches for them to know what is happening in this region. It is same IK who never got a phone call from Biden and it was same IK during whose tenure, Modi was given highest awards by many Muslim countries.
It is same IK who used a Saudi jet to visit US and that jet was withdrawn to show him his place.

Please don’t think that he had become so large an international figure. In fact, he was considered a naive politician by many international publications for opening his mouth a bit too much. He jumped the gun on many issues, a little too early.

He was good for your nation, since he has a clean image and he meant well. But he failed there too. He chose a team of incapable people who couldn’t do their job well.

He is not diplomatic, read deceitful, in diplomacy many a times one has to be a hypocrite, a double talker, a shrewd sycophant, Imran Khan had none of these things.

Even some PTI members have said what Imran Khan says in the meetings, he say it in the media, without adding any lies to it, yes not disclosing what need to be confidential.

And the main point was Pakistan was doing economically well under him, in all aspects even during the COVID-19 times.

The economy was growing at 6.1%, that translated to growth in all sectors.

 

[Paji]

He is not diplomatic, read deceitful, in diplomacy many a times one has to be a hypocrite, a double talker, a shrewd sycophant, Imran Khan had none of these things.

Yes, he is so principled that after having called Pervaiz Elahi the biggest daaku of Punjab all his political life, he made him the President of PTI just to get a few votes to dissolve the Punjab assembly.

 

[Cash GK]

Bajwa, the moronic Traitor was against the retaliatory strikes by the PAF on the iconic day of 27th feb, 2019. Bajwa was dead against a reciprocal action and US also directed Army lapdogs not to retaliate.


It's only the pressure and focus from IK and the PAF rising to the occasion that the reciprocal strikes happened, India was not expecting it, US wasn't expecting it and India was petrified, shot down her own MI17 killing six pilots.


The Abhinandon fiasco gave India all the horrendously bad vibes, The thread about 27th Feb, 2019 attacks had more than 600 pages here, there was pride all around.

India just couldn't accept a larger than life, stronger person as Pakistan PM, IK had the guts and the courage, India want a subservient PM like Nawaz, who can be manipulated and controlled.

Even IK has said on many speeches that there were jubilations all around India when IK was disposed and ousted.

IK talking about Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiq was spot on, opened the eyes of the Nation, people waking up to the reality fooled for 75 years is the most precious achievement of Imran Khan.

India didn't have the clout to coerce the Pak military establishment to oust IK, US have it and India used the US pressure indirectly in doing so. And the current reports of India is all for Nawaz Sharf as the PM of Pakistan if the country wants a good relations with India, trade and commerce and all that.

The LONDON plan of Nawaz Sharif with India, RAW or not, and the Pak Establishment falling to/for it, knowingly, unknowingly. It's not just US, India wanted the IK government to go, was more desperate than US.

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27 feb was bad dream for india. Pakistan could have use this day for next 30 years in his diplomacy.. but **** we lost this advantage when we allowed them to remove our pm and put him in prison. Now even they meeting with our constables openly.

Pakistan is breaking up precisely because of Imran khan.

Numerous Pakistani PM have been removed from office before, by its army(for It is in their nature) some multiple times, some even assasinated, but none of them caused as much ruckus in Pakistan as IK did after his ouster.

So, if I wanted chaos in Pakistan, I would definitely want IK to out of jail. His ego is ginormous.

Oh what plesent surprise Indians and asim munier think same

 

[VkdIndian]

he could be relied on to say something sensational and contrary to Pakistan's formal diplomatic position and thus provide eyeballs and ratings for the interviewers.

Yeah. A seasoned politician and diplomat knows when to talk and how much to talk. He thought that giving frank and freewheeling opinion would make him a rock star. He did become one, but only in Paksiatn.

He called out Modi in almost every speech of his. People got carried away and said - see how brave he is? Come on? Being brave in calling another nation? Is that how international affairs happen? Naive and childish behaviour by IK and his followers.

Outside, people were unimpressed.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Yes, the reason that all the international reporters liked to interview Khan was
1) He was willing to give any and everyone with white skin an interview

Can't be more funnier than this, media will interact with someone who will get them the views.

Why Modi didn't gives any interviews to western media, forget it he doesn't gives any interviews to Indian liberal English Media, and to local language Indian media too.

 

[VkdIndian]

He is not diplomatic, read deceitful, in diplomacy many a times one has to be a hypocrite, a double talker, a shrewd sycophant, Imran Khan had none of these things.

Right and wrong.
International affairs are run by usage of all the tact. It is good to be truthful but diplomacy needs much more.
Timing, tact, when to talk, how much to talk, how much to give away and how much to hold are important aspects to run affairs.

Being shrewd doesn’t make one a sycophant. Having tact doesn’t make one a fool or lesser being.

Look around. All nations use all these to the best of their capability.

 

[Cash GK]

Yeah. A seasoned politician and diplomat knows when to talk and how much to talk. He thought that giving frank and freewheeling opinion would make him a rock star. He did become one, but only in Paksiatn.

He called out Modi in almost every speech of his. People got carried away and said - see how brave he is? Come on? Being brave in calling another nation? Is that how international affairs happen? Naive and childish behaviour by IK and his followers.

Outside, people were unimpressed.

There are type of leaders. Some can built hospitals n universities and some burn its own people in streets. Hyderabad killings. Remmber Modi allowed Hyderabad killings for months

 

[N.Siddiqui]

27 feb was bad dream for india. Pakistan could have use this day for next 30 years in his diplomacy.. but **** we lost this advantage when we allowed them to remove our pm and put him in prison. Now even they meeting with our constables openly.

The retaliatory attacks scared the living daylights out of India.

India wasn't expecting it just as earlier with surgical strikes drama to win elections.

That made them, the indian Hindutvadis politicians petrified.

Even now Indian west Bengal CM Mamta Banerjee have disclosed that Modi and Hindutva BJP are planning a fake surgical strike in Pakistan to win elections.

She is a firebrand and a Modi, Hindutva hater. She want India with secular credentials.

 

[VkdIndian]

Hyderabad killings.

???.

Some can built hospitals n universities

Modi hasn’t built any? You know the amount of money spent in India on infra of all kinds?

I say again, IK is good for your nation. But it is not good enough. He has to have the capability to run the affairs of your nation. As a PM he will come across all kinds of challenges which he has to surmount. He wasn’t able to do in his last tenure. Tough luck. He has to man up and face the consequences.

Why did he fail? For his own faults and for being a bad politician and a bad statesman who lacked foresight.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Right and wrong.
International affairs are run in ways that have to use all the tact available. It is good to be truthful but diplomacy needs much more.
Timing, tact, when to talk, how much to talk, how much to give away and how much to hold are important aspects to run affairs.

Being shrewd doesn’t make one a sycophant. Having tact

International affairs could have taken a back seat, and unlike earlier when Pakistan was always looking at approval from others, having a sense of entitlement, always pandering to others, IK with the people of Pakistan at the heart of it, ignored such pandering to some countries and calling it good foreign relations.

 

[Paji]

Can't be more funnier than this, media will interact with someone who will get them the views.

"Funnier" is already in the comparative form, so "more funnier" is redundant. Yes, it is true that media is only interested in views. They don't care if they come from Imran Khan the Kardashians , some **** star or some playboy ( actually that is redundant as well since I already mentioned Imran Khan).

Why Modi didn't gives any interviews to western media, forget it he doesn't gives any interviews to Indian liberal English Media, and to local language Indian media too.

He is busy running the government or trying to strengthen the party. He has no time to give interviews. Unlike Khan, he also wakes up early in the morning, doesn't smoke, drink or do hash and did not spend all his life chasing skirts. So, what is your point?

There are type of leaders. Some can built hospitals n universities and some burn its own people in streets. Hyderabad killings. Remmber Modi allowed Hyderabad killings for months

What Hyderabad killings ? Please get some knowledge of what you are talking about before commenting.

Even now Indian west Bengal CM Mamta Banerjee had disclosed that Modi and Hindutva BJP are planning a fake surgical strike in Pakistan to win elections.

She is a firebrand and a Modi, Hindutva hater. She want India with secular credentials.

Mamta didi is also an opportunistic politician like all others. She used to be in the Congress and now hates them. She was also part of the BJP government under Vajpayee and has now become a Hindutva hater.