If India supports freedom in Crimea, why not in Kashmir?

[foxbat]

It becomes a subject of foreign interest when India violates human rights on a massive scale and thus invites external intervention ....

You are just going all over the place. Even by your argument (which is ill informed at best and nonsense at worst), it may become a point of foreign policy of another country, but not India.

Please stick to one line of discussion and if you do not have any logical point to make, please move on.

 

[Fattyacids]

Wrong,tibet has historically been seperate entity.Its culture too is totally diff from han chinese.China holds tibet due to its military strength,and that is what we have been accused of doing in this thread -not wholly unjustified but not wholly justified claim either.Because kashmir valley maynot like india,but jammu and leh/ladakh do.

Spare me your ridiculous rhetoric. Culture does not define sovereignty!
The 13th Lama attempt to go independent, when China was going thru civil war and Japan invasion, was not recognized by League of Nation and British Raj. Ditto post 1947 India. There was no dispute about it back then. Equally today, UN and even Dalai Lama recognized Tibet is part of China.
Kashmir and Jammu was an independent state formed in 1947, same time as India. It neither belong to India nor Pakistan. The tussle over it has been well documented, Kashmir and Jammu is designated as disputed territory by UN.
There's no parallel to be drawn with Tibet.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

If we r a little clever we can take this argument internationally in UN.
@Aeronaut. Principally this is true. If India supports Crimea then it must support Kashmir cause too.
U cant have a two faced foreign Policy. Based on discrimination.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

But still Pakistan have the right to hand over Part of Kashmir to china,and still be champions of kashmir.

His points are credibe.Pakistan has actually lost most of the ground on Kashmir after transferring some lamd to China.What do you want to know about Aksai Chin?? Our positin is that it is iilegally occupied by China.

hum ne nahi diya bhai , who log pehle se hi wohan per kabza karchuke the aur hume do option diya
pit ke do ! , ya izzat se do, tab 62 ki tumhari jang uske saath, chal rahi thi, aur aksai chin aur demchok tumhare haath se jaa chooka tha , who dekh ker hum ne izzat se use dene ka faisla kardiya , koi bhi apni zameen kisi ko apni khushi se nahi deta hai bhai, diye toh tum ne bhi, aur hum ne bhi bas dene ka tareeka alag alag tha

 

[waz]

We support freedom in Kashmir, but are occupied in building the economy. When we achieve the economic goals, Pak occupied Kashmir Will be freed and united to motherland India.

You wish, you dream, it will never happen.

 

[Aka123]

KASHMIR isn't the part of india . it is a disputed territory between PAKISTAN and India ..

Lol Pakistani! We don't care what you think, but Kashmir is India and it'll always be India.

You enjoy ownership of Kashmir in online forum, while we enjoy the ownership in reality, now figure out who's the fool here.

The statement 'Kashmir not a part of India' is as true as the statement, ' Pakistan is a part of India'.

 

[Chronos]

You wish, you dream, it will never happen.

LOL at the guys username you replied to.

This is why I never participate in Kashmir debate threads. Too much acrimony on both sides.

And getting my butt kicked by Pakistani posters here

 

[Jaanbaz]

India like Russia and many other nations looks out for its interests. It has been a Russian ally for a long time so its natural for India to side with Russia.

 

[IndoUS]

So when is Pakistan filing the resolution to get back the piece of Kashmir they gave/lost to China?

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Kashmir is a disputed territory .... The whole world (including India) admits this fact

agreed bro, but to be honest, U.N resolutions are not a realistic option , India would not agree to that,so the best option would be to some how settle it bilaterally on a give & take option , & on the basis of some thing is better then nothing
say if a give & take, like we agree to make the L.O.C as an international border but with some compromises from India
& we give India direct land access to Central Asia, Afghanistan etc's in return , in that way we might get some land from them, & they can get their land transit from us , so it will be a win-win situation for both the sides

 

[Skies]

India will leave Kashmir someday if enough economical loss, troubles and pressure can be given in daily basis.

I do not think India and other indian states will bear big sufferings, anarchy, and economical loss for Kashimr for long timem if can be given.

agreed bro, but to be honest, U.N resolutions are not a realistic option , India would not agree to that,so the best option would be to some how settle it bilaterally on give & take option , & on the basis of some thing is better then nothing
say if a give & take, like we agree to make the L.O.C as an international border but with some compromises from India
& we give India direct land access to Central Asia, Afghanistan etc's in return , in that way we might get some land from them, & they can get their land transit from us , so it will be a win-win situation for both the sides

your this idea opposes the idea of "what Kashmiris themselves want", your idea is like trade between Pk and India, not the willingless of Kashmiris.

 

[PoKeMon]

India will leave Kashmir someday if enough economical loss, troubles and pressure can be given in daily basis.

I do not think India and other indian states will bear more sufferings, anarchy, and economical loss for Kashimr for long time.

And who will give us these unwanted goodies without getting much more in return?

 

[Skies]

And who will give us these unwanted goodies without getting much more in return?

who India spends billions on defence for yearly?

 

[PoKeMon]

who India spends billions on defence for yearly?

China.

 

[Skies]

China.

then china will assist PK to wreak India secretly or indirectly