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If India supports freedom in Crimea, why not in Kashmir?

Don't lump your apple with our orange. Kashmir was an independent state neither belong to India nor Pakistan. Where as Tibet has been part of china for over 400 yrs, (it's independent attempt was not recognized by League of Nations back then. Even British Raj recognized Tibet is china.) Uyghur never had their own country. Xinjiang always been part of Chinese empire. There's no ground for any referendum, totally different from the case of Kashmir dispute.

Wrong,tibet has historically been seperate entity.Its culture too is totally diff from han chinese.China holds tibet due to its military strength,and that is what we have been accused of doing in this thread -not wholly unjustified but not wholly justified claim either.Because kashmir valley maynot like india,but jammu and leh/ladakh do.
 
If India supports freedom in Crimea, why not in Kashmir?

By Muhammad Faysal

The Express Tribune - March 29, 2014


Over the past week after the Russian annexation of Crimea, global politics have completely changed. The annexation which took place after a controversial ‘referendum’ shows that the aspirations of people are more powerful than politically drawn borders.
Yet, many political observers see the Russian backing of the referendum as damage control after Moscow lost its ally in former Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych after many weeks of protests.
India which is an important and old time ally of Russia, faces a new predicament and a new set of worries after the Crimean annexation, the dilemma being, do they back Russia – their oldest friend – or oppose it? Whichever decision it makes, India will be forced to confront the reality of secessionist movements in the northeast and a Kashmiri movement for independence.
For India, holding on to Kashmir has meant dismissing the calls of referendum by the people of Kashmir, at times even using disproportionate force which resulted in massacres and crackdown on protesters including minors. Ironically, it was India that brought the case of Kashmir to the United Nations in 1949 after which the UN called for a plebiscite in Kashmir, both in Indian Kashmir and Pakistani Kashmir.
India’s political stalwart and first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, promised the people of Kashmir a plebiscite in a broadcast from New Delhi in November 1948,

“We have declared that the fate of Kashmir is ultimately to be decided by the people. That pledge we have given, and the Maharaja has supported it, not only to the people of Kashmir but to the world. We will not, and cannot back out of it. We are prepared when peace and law and order have been established to have a referendum held under international auspices like the United Nations. We want it to be a fair and just reference to the people and we shall accept their verdict. I can imagine no fairer and more just offer.”

But India backed out after making this promise to the people of Kashmir and signing the UN resolution calling for a plebiscite in Kashmir. And now the official line is ‘Kashmir is an integral part of India’.Interestingly, they deny the war crimes committed in Kashmir by the Indian armed forces which sure doesn’t happen in any ‘integral part’. Just like the absolute mockery of justice in open and shut cases of rapes, massacres and enforced-disappearances, this claim of an ‘integral part’ is as hollow as its claim of ‘peace in Kashmir’ – peace which perhaps can be found in the pause between deaths of Kashmiris.
With the US calling for sanctions on Russia, it remains to be seen which side India will choose to be on. Will it choose to side with the west and lose a key ally in Russia – a long-term setback or side with its long-time ally Russia, essentially making it an international hypocrite?
Crimea has quite literally thrown a spanner in geo-politics. It is akin to the cold war where either you are with a country or against them. India chose to be non-aligned during the cold war but with its military progress and the possibility of becoming an economic superpower, this is no longer a choice that India has which further pushes it against the wall.
It is strange that the referendum happened in Crimea without any blood being spilled unlike Kashmir which has bled enough to give legitimacy to the calls of referendum and secession in the international polity. It is also ironic how India voted against Sri Lanka in a UN resolution indicting the island country for war crimes in Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) strongholds while India commits the same war crimes in Kashmir, with rampant impunity and with laws such as the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act which gives its troops the licence to kill.
Referendum remains a national dream for Kashmiris. They have been waiting for it since the promise made by India and Pakistan and guaranteed by the UN in 1949.
In 2008 and 2010, Kashmiris stepped out by the hundreds and thousands in peaceful rallies to call for a referendum. But it was met with brute force. Later, the Indian backed government jailed the freedom leadership, killed over 120 Kashmiri protestors most of whom were teenagers, banned SMS services and local media.
Is India, one of the largest democracies of the world, afraid that its ‘integral part’ will vote to be independent if it holds a referendum?
Vladimir Putin thanked India for its position on Crimea in his speech after signing the treaty to accede Crimea into Russia. In his speech, he also questioned the US for supporting freedom but not in Crimea.
I would ask India the same question – if it supports freedom elsewhere, why not in Kashmir?
With the developments in Crimea and the NATO pull-out in Afghanistan, geo-politics may change into another cold war. But it still remains to be seen whether Kashmir will feature in these changes or whether the Kashmiri people will have to wait a little longer for freedom.
If only Kashmir had oil, things would have changed a long time back.

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/21597/if-india-supports-freedom-in-crimea-why-not-in-kashmir/

For more on India's hegemonic and expansionist foreign policy read The India Doctrine -

The India Doctrine (1947-2007) | Mohammad Munshi - Academia.edu
Because we can
 
Same reason why jamaatis and pakistani support freedom in kashmir but not in tibet, balochistan or east pakistan.

Besides, each case is different. I'd like to know from the twats who post such anti india rants daily, has india acknowledged Crimea as part of Russia?


So there was a conspiracy hatched by the British and India to annex Kashmir ....

Are you 3 years old to make such ridiculous repartee and present it as some kind of argument?
 
I agree it is just the Indian pretense of being high and moral that pisses everyone off. Kashmir is a foreign policy issue because it involves mass violations of human rights.
I want you to answer one question,its offtopic-Do you want BD to be a purely Islamic country i.e. no Hindus and only Islam and what is the first thing will you do if you become Pm of BD??
 
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I want to answer onw question,its offtopic-Do you want BD to be a purely Islamic country i.e. no Hindus and only Islam and what is the first thing will you do if you become Pm of BD??

No I do not want Bangladesh become a purely Islamic country according to the definition provided by you. If I were to become the PM of Bangladesh the first thing I would do is remove all the Indian dalals from all sectors of Bangladesh and send them back to India and punish the AL for treason and committing crimes against humanity.
 
@cheekybird I disagree with you,who is trolling here?? I cant find a single troll post except yours.

No I do not want Bangladesh become a purely Islamic country according to the definition provided by you. If I were to become the PM of Bangladesh the first thing I would do is remove all the Indian dalals from all sectors of Bangladesh and send them back to India and punish the AL for treason and committing crimes against humanity.
Ok Do you support BD relations with India if India assures no interference in BD's internal matters?? Do you also support reunification of BD with Pakistan??
 
Wrong,tibet has historically been seperate entity.Its culture too is totally diff from han chinese.China holds tibet due to its military strength,and that is what we have been accused of doing in this thread -not wholly unjustified but not wholly justified claim either.Because kashmir valley maynot like india,but jammu and leh/ladakh do.

The difference is that no country on Earth recognizes Tibet as a disputed territory. Neither then or now.

Even your own country considers Tibet to be a part of China. Even the Dalai Lama himself says that Tibet is a part of China.

Kashmir on the other hand is internationally recognized as a disputed territory, even by the UN itself.
 
I agree it is just the Indian pretense of being high and moral that pisses everyone off. Kashmir is a foreign policy issue because it involves mass violations of human rights.

You are reading the wrong book about India mate so dont blame you.
and yes, last time I checked UNHRC opened an office in Kashmir, and demanded GOI to stop the abuse... or face the wrath of GOD.
 
Only answer to you Guyz: Kashmir is an Integral Part of India, Come, get it , if you CAN... Period. :bunny:
 
@cheekybird I disagree with you,who is trolling here?? I cant find a single troll post except yours.


Ok Do you support BD relations with India if India assures no interference in BD's internal matters?? Do you also support reunification of BD with Pakistan??

I support normalization of relations with India provided it takes credible measures not to interfere in BD's internal affairs. No I do not support reunification of BD with Pakistan. That is a closed chapter.
 
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