If India does a Surgical strike in Pakistan, how would/should Pakistan respond??

[Bharat Muslim]

This tactic/strategy might not be as cowardly as you think. If my belief is not wrong - agar main galat nahi hoon - there was a time when PCB was bankrupt and was virtually requesting India for a cricket series.

 

[Speak Out]

@GURU DUTT. Everyone has options. Let India exercise its options and let us worry about our response options.

 

[cmpk1]

I would request all my indian friends here to ignore the **** propaganda about indian strike. better not to reply on that.
let them do what they do best spread terrorism for next 15 years and cry about kashmir.

India is the fastest growing major economy .......we have greater things to achieve.

2014 GDP nominal

1 usa 17 trillion
2 china 10.3 trillion
3. japan 4.6 trillion
4 germany 3.8 trillion
5 uk 2.9 trillion
6 france 2.8 trillion
7 brazil 2.3 trillion
8 italy 2.1 trillion
9 india 2.04 trillion
10 russia 1.8 trillion
42 pakistan 25 trillion or 250 billion
8 times bigger than pakistan

Now lets talk about gdp growth

9 india7.40 % ( if modi can implement his policies then it will reach double digit growth)
67 pakistan 4.10 %

Almost 2 times than pakistan

Foreign reserve
India's 355 billion dollar
pakistan's 17 billion dollar

20 times bigger than Pakistan

2030 projection BY IMF India to be third largest economy with 6.5 trillion. Also some are project india will cross 10 trillion mark...

1 United States 24 trillion
2 China 22 trillion
3 India 6.5 trillion
4.japan 6.4 trillion
5 Germany 4.5 trillion
6Brazil 3.9 trillion
7United Kingdom 3.6 trillion
8France 3.3 trillion
9Canada 2.3 trillion
10 Russia 2.2 trillion

sorry no projection about pakistan....
let me project at 4 % growth rate say
around 450 billion probably

Moral of the story.....after 15 years u will need a bina-color to find us...u will be so much behind.

Jeez you gave me fits! laughed so hard

now, a REALITY check

yes, India's economy is way bigger than Pakistan's, BUT, Pakistan has a population of 200 million as opposed to India's mammoth 1.3 Billion, yes BILLION. So, whenever any Indian comes up with this amusing figure of trillion dollar economy they forget the fact that they've got a massive population to feed.

1.3 Billion people, poverty rate of 37% (using $1 PPP), the new standard is $2 PPP, if you use that, over 700 million people are living below the poverty line in India! half of worlds poor live in South Asia, majority living in India. you guys need to keep your growth rate at 10% for next 50 years to be anywhere near China.

So, kid, next time come prepared before you quote this "trillion dollar economy" crap.

 

[Not So Good]

We are muslims and not afraid of anything. We will give a suicide jacket or a car loaded with explosive to one of our countrymen along with a mobile and then boom. We are known as a failed state for a reason.

relaxe brother we are certified cowards so no need to do anything

 

[India rules]

Jeez you gave me fits! laughed so hard

now, a REALITY check

yes, India's economy is way bigger than Pakistan's, BUT, Pakistan has a population of 200 million as opposed to India's mammoth 1.3 Billion, yes BILLION. So, whenever any Indian comes up with this amusing figure of trillion dollar economy they forget the fact that they've got a massive population to feed.

1.3 Billion people, poverty rate of 37% (using $1 PPP), the new standard is $2 PPP, if you use that, over 700 million people are living below the poverty line in India! half of worlds poor live in South Asia, majority living in India. you guys need to keep your growth rate at 10% for next 50 years to be anywhere near China.

So, kid, next time come prepared before you quote this "trillion dollar economy" crap.

You should realize that the numbers i have written above is nominal gdp if u consider ppp gdp of india is already in 3rd position after china and usa. india's ppp is 7.5 trillion.
Yes we are a big country with mammoth population . india is the largest IT exporter ,we are doing very good in bio technology , our manufacturing sector got very good boost under make in india initiative. We have reached mars, our space program is doing awesome. Countries around the world respect India. All foreign countries are investing in India. We are not communist like china we are a democracy and unfortunately in democracy things move slowly.Poverty rate has decreased in india significantly in the last decade. even china has 25% poverty rate. India has already emerged as a global power and if it continue to grow for next 15 years things will change drastically.

well there is no comparison between between India and Pakistan. I am glad that u understood it. That what I was trying to Say.

we are a bigger nation, bigger economy, bigger army.....and etc etc

tell me one good thing pakistan has done in last 70 years.

No body in this world cares about pakistan.
Pakistan's identity is a unstable democracy with full of terrorists , obsessed with India and kashmir and of course Modi. one of the most dangerous place in earth. more than 50k people killed in pakistan due to terrorist activity in the last decade itself, an economy which has no prospect.

So what I meant igonre Pakistan and move ahead. We have a identity in the global arena.

So kid don't be jealous ......I know its very hard to represent a big mess

 

[Kaniska]

India wont do it in the 1st place..If at all India will do anything, it will try to weaken Pakistan on the economic and diplomatic front rather than attacking directly..Otherwise, India will support terrorist of Pakistan who can work for us...Why should India attack and take the blame of full scale war unnecesarily??? The surgical strike work can be done by paying some one in Pakistan if India would have wished to do that...

 

[India rules]

India wont do it in the 1st place..If at all India will do anything, it will try to weaken Pakistan on the economic and diplomatic front rather than attacking directly..Otherwise, India will support terrorist of Pakistan who can work for us...Why should India attack and take the blame of full scale war unnecesarily??? The surgical strike work can be done by paying some one in Pakistan if India would have wished to do that...

correct we just need to strenthen our economy, pakistanis itself is capable enough to screw their nation.

Jinnah has done a great favor to us by separating a radicle population from us

 

[Blue Marlin]

A lot of people on this thread showing their true colours. shameful and hypocritical.

 

[Not So Good]

https://www.facebook.com/*****************/photos/a.456389991139857.1073741982.276691342443057/747714468674073/?type=1&theater
You think these people will do a surgical strike on us ?

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Forget about surgical strikes we Indians cant even protect our cetizens inside our own territory from you guys

This tactic/strategy might not be as cowardly as you think. If my belief is not wrong - agar main galat nahi hoon - there was a time when PCB was bankrupt and was virtually requesting India for a cricket series.

believe me brother we are not going to do anything we dont have courage to do so, thats sad reality of our nation

 

[N/A]

It took them 11 hours just to kill 3 Separatists, god help them if they should go up against Pak Fauj.

Your

Modern air war depends on following:

1. Satellite surveillance
2. AWACS
3. Penetration fighter bombers with precision targeting
4. Sheer numbers of fighter planes.

On all these fronts PAF cannot face off an open war with IAF.

We need at least 20 years to catch up and then too will be dependent on Chinese research and development that hopefully will produce good engines.

So if the war starts today (god forbid), IAF will Penetration fighter bombers with precision targeting

 

[Not So Good]

Your

let me remind you wars are fought with the heart not equipment, it's a shame the you don't have confidence in the armed forces of Pakistan


There are 3 points in your statement that are false. One AWACS, Pakistan posses 7 awacs compared to India's 6. In a time of war Pakistan will be able to deploy all 7 aircraft as they only face one enemy. India will be forced to keep aircraft in reserve for China and other threats. 6 aircraft are far to few to patrol the skies of India. Second. As for your Penetration "fighter bombers with precision targeting" statement clearly you don't understand the role of cruise missiles. If you are under the judgment that IAF jets can simply fly into Pakistan and Bomb targets then you are clearly mistaken. Pakistan is not an African nation, we are a nuclear power.

indeed Pakistan is a Proud Nuclear Power wih massive melitary force and inspite of small size and economy giving hard time to its neighbours

 

[Pindi Boy]

There are good number of terrorists within india and they can't punish them...u r asking them about punishing terrorists in another country..?!?
anyways...they don't have the ballz to do that.

You are totally right I agree with u

 

[OTTOMAN]

Pakistani response:

 

[FuturePAF]

First of All, Pakistan should reign in as many lose cannons in any proxy conflicts with india
they are more of a liability then an asset

Economic and Cultural development, International image, and local support (such as the Kashmiris) are the currency to winning disputes with india

india is too large and proud to submit to Pakistan, therefore it must be WoWed (as in the Israelis and the Arabs), and compromised to create, if not a peace but an "Amiable Stalemate" in which both nations can mature, and learn to live with each other (during this de-escalation period, Pakistan can develop economically and culturally, and try to win over the majority of Kashmiris, helping them advocate for their succession from india occupation, in a peaceful way)
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having said that

It depends on if India is able to spin any surgical strike as retaliation for a small false flag attack prior to their strikes
if a Mumbai type event happened, a Modi type government could use the false flag attack as pretext for "surgical strikes" to attack "camps"

counter attacks on Indian military bases would be absorbed. Their most valuable assets are

1. Their international prestige
2. Their Economy
3. Social Harmony inside of their country
4. Their ability to maintain law and order in their separatist regions

(These areas are also vital points for Pakistan)

A fitting response would be strong condemnations by India's Trading Partners that are friends with Pakistan (China, Saudi, Gulf States, and to some extent the western countries) followed by some strategically painful sanctions for sometime; such as shutting off the IRAN-PAKISTAN-INDIA pipeline.

this should be coupled with strikes on a few military targets that can not be repaired easily or replaced and who's effect would be psychologically damaging, and also not a sectarian target (so as to not adversely effect india's people hindu or muslim or sikh or etc.) but a strictly military target

knocking out expensive and critical C4ISR assets/nodes and supporting infrastructure, ammunition dumps of very expensive equipment

if a few Pakistani submarines off the western coast of india could knock out a warship (even a small one) in karwar harbor, and a few cruise missiles could knock out a military C4ISR assets in the mumbai area, like a fuel dump (flames for the camera), visible to their and international media (with minimal loss of any human life) it would do the trick of shaming the indians and showing their inability to prevent it, and force them to become frustrated; these are meant as punitive responses, and to show not only the indian government/people, but the world they have to deal with Pakistan through words not force

a cyber attack on key comunication capabilities will also slow down military coordination and show the risks to their high tech economy could facie in any prolonged conflict

finally adding to this a visible (to western satellites) mobilization of some of the strategic assets including nasr to a few firing positions, would send the message to de-escalate

in order to make this effective Pakistan needs to start now, before any possible attack to build up a strong Azad Kashmir Government that advocates for the rights (in a verbal , political, protesting sort of way) for the people in Indian Occupied Kashmir

Similar to Germany in the Cold War; with Azad Kahmir being West Germany and Indian Occupied Kashmir being the GDR (East Germany) in this comparison

In order to make this more than window dressing, Pakistan needs to stop its political games, and develop a 30 year national economic development plan, that sees economic development the center of government mindset

should 10 years into a track record that pakistan is developing all of its regions including kashmir, and a Indian attack happens on a part of Azad kashmir, the strong regional/provincial government of Azad kashmir could say we are a peaceful people facing unfair indian agression

world opinion in 2015 is against Pakistan if only the surface is scratched, Pakistan needs to develop a stronger layer of economic development as a defense (similar to what china's communist party has done in their country over the last 40 years; people might criticize the chinese government, but considering all the good they have done, and the economic stability they are maintaining in the global world order, it would be too damaging to disturb, so they don't "scratch" too hard)

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Remember, Minimize LOSS of Any Human Life (Civilian and Military) in retaliation, show you are more surgical, more precise, more ethical then the Indian attackers

the goal is to punish them for their attack, not escalate to a war, or cause harm to the muslim community in india (we may lose more muslims in india from mob violence, then could be lost in any surgical strikes done by the indian military)

 

[FaujHistorian]

indeed Pakistan is a Proud Nuclear Power wih massive melitary force and inspite of small size and economy giving hard time to its neighbours

hard time?

This is why Afghanistan peace talks are being held in Islamabad with US and China as observers?

hahahah.


This is why China and Pakistan are building a trade corridor?

Is this why Iran and Pakistan are working on joint pipeline project? Turkmanistan setting up power and gas projects?

Please do not post childish stuff.