IAF's Su-30 MKI to go Against France's Rafale Jets During Garuda VI Exercise

[Zapper]

French are installing a tea maker along the ejection seat.

Hostilities aside, this got me mate

 

[crankthatskunk]

Should we expect cancellation of Rafale's order!!

 

[Surya 1]

Rafale will surely win Against Su30 Mki . Russian are no match with western technology.

We have put many state of art elections in MKI. Radar change and putting state of art BVR will make it most lethal.

 

[Ultima Thule]

We have put many state of art elections in MKI. Radar change and putting state of art BVR will make it most lethal.

you Will put I-derby because humiliation of 27 FEB @Surya 1

 

[Surya 1]

you Will put I-derby because humiliation of 27 FEB @Surya 1

More you get kick on your back, more you try to cover it up with fabricated stories. Loosing F 16 to.mig 21 seem to be your achievement.

 

[Ultima Thule]

More you get kick on your back, more you try to cover it up with fabricated stories. Loosing F 16 to.mig 21 seem to be your achievement.

Keep blabbering you troll, we are not fabricating stories like India doing currently if we are doing then what is for pentagon confirmation of our F-16, we already kick on your back, how is the tea sir @Surya 1

 

[SQ8]

If the French do better, the MKI is going to end up being a source of under confidence for its pilots..
If the MKI does better, then what is the point of the Rafale?

Although in reality, the true focus is to check interoperability between the two.
Maybe, they’ll simulate engaging F-16s under jamming - get a win in that scenario and then feel all happy about themselves.
@Hodor @airomerix @Dazzler @JamD

 

[airomerix]

If the French do better, the MKI is going to end up being a source of under confidence for its pilots..
If the MKI does better, then what is the point of the Rafale?

Although in reality, the true focus is to check interoperability between the two.
Maybe, they’ll simulate engaging F-16s under jamming - get a win in that scenario and then feel all happy about themselves.
@Hodor @airomerix @Dazzler @JamD

They can do either.

And if IAF/Indian members exercise a little amount of sanity here. They will not appraise any of the above over another. These two jets can serve a very different role and to IAF's benefit, Rafale can be an omnirole platform while Su remains the premier air dominance fighter.

Its never about Su vs Rafale.

In the hands of IAF pilots with current training. Even Rafale will fall flat.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Two of the best, really? your PM and IAF chief don't think so

Two of Best fighters in service will be pitted against each other. It will be interesting to track the outcome.

 

[GumNaam]

The only true test if the two aircrafts would be when the su30 is piloted by a Russian or Malaysian pilots. as for the indian pilots going up against French pilots? Well, you can put the French pilot in an old school French mystere and he'll still beat down on the indian pilot! Pakistan tossed them like used butt-wipes multiple times including Feb of this month and even the 70s/80s era F-15 beat the living crap out of the indian-flown su30s during red flag many times! just except the truth, indian pilots just suck!

 

[alee92nawaz]

Two of Best fighters in service will be pitted against each other. It will be interesting to track the outcome.

If Rafale uses meteor or amraam then SU is effed... Not sure about close range

 

[SQ8]

They can do either.

And if IAF/Indian members exercise a little amount of sanity here. They will not appraise any of the above over another. These two jets can serve a very different role and to IAF's benefit, Rafale can be an omnirole platform while Su remains the premier air dominance fighter.

Its never about Su vs Rafale.

In the hands of IAF pilots with current training. Even Rafale will fall flat.

Their current training has indirectly their booming economy to blame- their creme left in the 90s to fly for airlines and to this day it continues to happen. We have also suffered but not as severely yet(although Ive heard its starting to hit home a little with our traditionally high pilot to cockpit ratios dropping) while their industry is still growing and taking their aviators; because at the end the IAF isn’t paying as much as an airline will.

Other considerations are there as well including obsolete and disparate equipment along with force size as well.

 

[Surya 1]

If Rafale uses meteor or amraam then SU is effed... Not sure about close range

True for Meteor. For any other missile , Su 30 cancuse IDerby or Astra. Which is planned.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Su 30 cancuse IDerby or Astra.

Will use is the right word @Surya 1

 

[GumNaam]

True for Meteor. For any other missile , Su 30 cancuse IDerby or Astra. Which is planned.

the su30 can use proton torpedos from star trek for all I care, the R77s, the R73s are perfectly good missiles, they are right up their with the astras, derbys, AMRAAMs, you name it. the su30 is not the problem, the su30's missiles are also not the problem...the problem is somewhere between the su30's hud and the su30's ejection seat!

ferrari may bandar bitha nay say bandar koi nascar driver nahi ban jata...bandar baar haal bandar hi rehta hay aur us nay ferrari ko crash hi karna hay!