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IAF to order 100 modified Tejas aircraft

As per reports Most Advanced F16IN is being offered to India via make in India route at very reasonable cost , this should be considered and made in numbers 200+ to remove all shortcomings of IAF.
The most Advance F16 bird F16IN comes also with the price, more over it fails the MMRCA race in which more than 600 parameters set by Indian Air Force was accessed and in which Rafale came victorious with EF2000 as runnerup.
LCA is the replacement of Mig-21 and not the high end MMRCA, nor India is short of High end Air Superiority fighter like SU30 MKI.
 
India have been working on Aesa for quite long time secretely from 90's. and do have knowledge of know how for aesa but the problem with the airborne Aesa MMR is the compactness which is required. Till now the Uttam prototype is achievement is with 400 modules. For higher modules the components have to be fit/soldered closely to each other. Other than that this type of Radar is more of software.


Janab Tejas abhi cannot fly, so how it is a flying coffin ??????

But you didn't told me how its a JUNK. Pls type ellaborately. Jara khul kar batao Janab and pls point wise.

UTTAM has 800 TR modules...

India have been working on Aesa for quite long time secretely from 90's. and do have knowledge of know how for aesa but the problem with the airborne Aesa MMR is the compactness which is required. Till now the Uttam prototype is achievement is with 400 modules. For higher modules the components have to be fit/soldered closely to each other. Other than that this type of Radar is more of software.


Janab Tejas abhi cannot fly, so how it is a flying coffin ??????

But you didn't told me how its a JUNK. Pls type ellaborately. Jara khul kar batao Janab and pls point wise.

UTTAM has 800 TR modules...
 
The most Advance F16 bird F16IN comes also with the price, more over it fails the MMRCA race in which more than 600 parameters set by Indian Air Force was accessed and in which Rafale came victorious with EF2000 as runnerup.
LCA is the replacement of Mig-21 and not the high end MMRCA, nor India is short of High end Air Superiority fighter like SU30 MKI.
As per reports F16In has been offered with a mouth watering price with make in india option .
 
As per reports F16In has been offered with a mouth watering price with make in india option .
Should china have gone with "mouth watering" offers for some foreign fighter instead of building their own j-6 and j-7 for decades?
Building your own capability is important and despite all the negativity, it's a great fighter consider India had no prior experience of building such an advanced jet. It can hold its own, not an obsolete junk like the j-series produced by china well into the 90s or the joke-17s.

Cost of 2 tejas = 1 f-16in.
Leaving aside the positive impact on r&d and future jet development in India, leave aside the fact that the US are untrustworthy, unscrupulous *******s who could plug support anytime.
Just from a capability perspective I would choose two tejas over one f-16 any day, (just like paf would opt for 4-5 jf-17 over one f-16) especially as it paves the way for the much superior mk2 version in some years.
 
Should china have gone with "mouth watering" offers for some foreign fighter instead of building their own j-6 and j-7 for decades?
Building your own capability is important and despite all the negativity, it's a great fighter consider India had no prior experience of building such an advanced jet. It can hold its own, not an obsolete junk like the j-series produced by china well into the 90s or the joke-17s.

Cost of 2 tejas = 1 f-16in.
Leaving aside the positive impact on r&d and future jet development in India, leave aside the fact that the US are untrustworthy, unscrupulous *******s who could plug support anytime.
Just from a capability perspective I would choose two tejas over one f-16 any day, (just like paf would opt for 4-5 jf-17 over one f-16) especially as it paves the way for the much superior mk2 version in some years.
SO no one in the world can effort tejaz only india can buy it from INDIA A TOFEE FOR JF-17 Thunder
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Lolz, Janab even you cannot tell about your range of doing jogging.
1 If you run fast, you will loose more energy fast and your range will be less.
2. If I loaded you with 20 kg of sandbag on you back your range will be less.
3. On early morning when temp. is favorable you make more distance than the hot afternoon your lange will be less

The above link gives the range but didn't tell us at what altitute, speed, and load.

1 If you run fast, you will loose more energy, you will take LESS time (time =1/speed) to cover the distance between point A and B.

2 Range is measured at full clean configuration and optimum altitude without after burner.

3 those weather conditions are equally applicable to the adversary aircraft. So the chances of night flights are higher if weather and temp does affect the range of a fighter aircraft.

SO no one in the world can effort tejaz only india can buy it from INDIA A TOFEE FOR JF-17 Thunder
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Very nice looking aircraft...

Thats planned not achieve. Till now 400 TR could have been achieved.

According to many article posted on PDF UTTAM has 200 four channel TR modules so in total 800.
DRDO has patent for 8 channel TR module as well.
 
1 If you run fast, you will loose more energy, you will take LESS time (time =1/speed) to cover the distance between point A and B.

2 Range is measured at full clean configuration and optimum altitude without after burner.

3 those weather conditions are equally applicable to the adversary aircraft. So the chances of night flights are higher if weather and temp does affect the range of a fighter aircraft.
1. Check how 100 mt. Bolt would be able to run vs the Marathon runner.

2. That answer is not applicable to my #2nd point which was related to the load, however that is what its advertised range and few OEM give this range with drop tank, thats what confused some readers.

3. How can it be equal, the Engine thrust developed in the Indian hot condition is 10-20% less than what is produced in the the environment of france/sweden.

According to many article posted on PDF UTTAM has 200 four channel TR modules so in total 800.
DRDO has patent for 8 channel TR module as well.

If you want to believe that its 800 TR module target have been achieved you can do that but that whats its been targeted not achieved yet.

Indigenous UTTAM AESA Radar Progressing Well

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INTRODUCTION

An Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) is an active antenna consisting of a large number of radiating elements and is commonly used in today’s radar systems. One of the major advantages with this kind of antenna system is the ability to steer the beam electronically from one direction to another without any mechanical motion.

ADVANTAGES

The inherent advantages of the active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar are the obvious inertia-less scanning and the minimal feeder loss as no lengthy feeder cables are involved. Unlike in the MSA radar, the AESA radar has the impudence to perform even with failure of some of its radiating elements. The AESA radar goes through a graceful degradation with cumulative failures in its battery of transmit-receive modules. The AESA radar helps build substantially compact radar systems resulting in low weight, minimal aerodynamic drag, and relatively smaller radar cross-section (RCS), all of which are of vital importance operationally for the platform aircraft. Besides, the AESA radar provides enhanced beam agility with higher reliability. The latest AESA sensor further helps track air- and sea-targets simultaneously as well as tracks continuously the high performance aircraft, while maintaining the routine scan over the operational area.

INDIGENOUS DEVELOPMENT

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Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE) is developing an indigenous AESA Fire Control Radar called UTTAM. It is being developed for the LCA Mk2 and Mk1 (presumably Mk-1A will be upgraded with the system) and also other aircraft upgrades such as the IAF's Jaguars and MiG-29Ks.

The timeline for the indigenous Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar has been set at 2017, two years from now. At Aero India 2009, it was revealed that the 3D MMR project has been superseded by the new 3D AESA FCR project led by LRDE. This Radar has the capability for Air to Ground mapping and targeting. This "hybrid" MMR has successfully undergone trials, and will be supplied for the initial LCA Tejas fighters of which 2 Squadrons have been ordered.

DEVELOPMENT, TESTING

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Realization and calibration of prototype Active Antenna Array Unit (AAAU) has been completed. The AAAU is configured to compactly house several transmit/receive multi-modules dividers, beam forming units, beam control units, power supply units and related electronic devices including cables and connectors. This has been achieved through an innovative and iterative process to arrive at the AAAU with minimal dimensions and optimum mass properties. A Liquid Circulation System (LCS) has also been developed as AAAU dissipates around 2650 watts of heat during operation and needs to be cooled considering the options available, space and geometry constraints. This cooling systems consists of pump & flow circuits and liquid to air heat exchanger.


Development of the Transmit-Receive Multi-Modules (TRMM) was a significant and high-value indigenous effort as the technology, hitherto available only to a handful of advanced nations, could be, for the first time, engineered successfully to fully meet the needs of the Indian AEW&C system. A unique feature of the indigenous TRMM design is that eight trans-receive modules are combined compactly to form a single TRMM, thus facilitating high density installation of 160 of them in the AAAU to power the surveillance radar. The important fact about the indigenous TRMM is that the quantity required for the Indian AEW&C program could be produced through the industry in the private sector at a cost less than one-fourth of that of its imported equivalent. The realisation of the TRMM is a boost to self-reliance in development of indigenous defence systems.

DRDO currently has completed an Airworthy Radar Processor and Exciter Receiver in Mechanically Scanned Array (MSA) configuration for validation of various algorithms and wave-forms of the fire control radar.

Software development for air-air sub-modes have been completed and DRDO is testing the radar in Air-to-Air mode, and the crucial software block testing which will allow aircraft to carry out air-to-ground modes for high resolution mapping, multiple ground moving target detection/racking, target identification, electronic warfare, and ultra high bandwidth communications.

CAPABILITIES

UTTAM has capabilities like, Identification friend or foe (IFF), electronic and communication support measures, C-band line-of-sight and Ku-band SATCOM datalinks, etc., similar to those on the AWACS and Conformal Airborne Early Warning & Control Systems (CAEW) systems.

The important modes of operation of the UTTAM radar system are the surface surveillance and the air surveillance. The sensor has the abilities to search, track-while-scan, priority tracking, high performance tracking, etc. In priority tracking, the targets will be placed in full track mode even if these cross the primary surveillance area. In high performance tracking, additional measurements are made to improve the tracking accuracy. Utilizing active aperture technology, the radar provides a fast-beam agile system that can operate in several modes concurrently.


FOCUS ON AIRBORNE RADAR FOR TEJAS

Hardware has already been realized for this radar which has a range of 100 km against small fighter sized targets and rooftop testing has been completed. Though the Uttam AESA currently weighs 120 kg which is some 40 kg more than the current MMR, there will be no problem in integrating it with the LCA Mk-II which can easily carry a radar of this weight. It is a 3D radar for fighters, a MMR follow on, the Active Phased Array Radar (APAR) project aims to field a fully fledged operational AESA fire control radar for the expected Mark-2 version of the Tejas.

This will be the second airborne AESA program after the AEW&C project and intends to transfer the success DRDO has achieved in the Ground based radar segment to airborne systems. The overall airborne program aims to prevent this technology gap from developing, with a broad based program to bring DRDO up to par with international developers in airborne systems: both fire control and surveillance. The earlier versions of radars has mechanically moving parts, whose output was painfully slow when compared to the new generation electronic technology. LCA also has a sophisticated fly by wire system and glass cockpit.

AESA in the LCAs will obviously have a lower range, but it will be well integrated within the IAF network, and give a quantum technology jump to IAF’s combat capabilities. Notably, the 36 Rafales being acquired by IAF in the Government-to-Government deal will also have the AESA radar, developed by Thales.

BEL has also developed a RADAR WARNING RECEIVER (RWR) which is designed for fitment on fighter aircrafts and helicopters. It intercepts, detects and identifies all types of ground and air borne emitters (Pulse, CW, ICW, Pulse Doppler, Pulse agile, Frequency agile) and presents them on Cockpit Display Unit with the help of alphanumeric/special colour symbols and audio tones.


It is worthwhile to note that US companies Raytheon and Northrop Grumman have established considerable lead in the AESA development, while in Europe, Thales has its AESA installed on Rafale and Eurofighter aircraft. In fact, AESA was a key requirement for India’s MMRCA (Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft) competition, and the 36 Rafale jets being acquired from France should have both the AESA as well as the Infra Red Search and Track (IRST) system.

AESA COMPOSITION ON TEJAS

Tejas Mk 1 :: GE404 engine, No AESA
Tejas Mk 1.P :: GE404 engine, AESA, No design Change
Tejas Mk 2 :: GE414 is a more powerful engine compared to the earlier GE404, Several design changes and added electronic warfare capabilities


FUTURISTIC 360°-CAPABLE ANTENNA

Preliminary studies have been carried out at Center for Airborne Studies (CABS) for a possible optimal design of a futuristic antenna with the desirable 360°-vision for roles identified under various war situations. The unique aerodynamically-shaped delta radome will blend with the aerodynamics of the platform-aircraft to provide the required radar performance together with better operational economy by virtue of its better aerodynamics, reduced weight, and better or similar electro-magnetics. This radar may be dorsal or conformal fuselage mounted doubts still remain as not much is known about its specifications or configuration.

CONCLUSION

The foregoing summarizes the efforts made by DRDO towards development of the AESA radar for its current and future AEW&C applications as well as for realising essential allied technologies. The necessary core competence to evolve futuristic applications in AESA radar has thus been adequately established.

Source: Indigenous UTTAM AESA Radar Progressing Well
 
3. How can it be equal, the Engine thrust developed in the Indian hot condition is 10-20% less than what is produced in the the environment of france/sweden.
I was specifically talking about F-16 and LCA as both the aircraft uses American engine so the thrust reduction in Indian Western reason shall be same in both the aircraft percentage wise.
 
Yes but what the range you might fight in the public domain is the advertised range or any other characteristic like STR, ITR, P/Wt which is different than the actual rating in Indian Condition.
 
Don't know may be MK-2 should run in parallel. This is the great oppurtunity for India if they could complete MK-2 quickly, An Alternative to Grippen NG in International Market with Aesa and Derby -I
 
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