IAF to Buy 83 more Tejas fighters from HAL instead of foreign jets, CDS Rawat says

[crankthatskunk]

will really compliment the "Fantastic Tea" we provide, pun intended!

You mean to say Abhi would be in one. lolz
No pun intended.

 

[Trailer23]

[Bus ho gaya! Lag gaey - khich-khich kay.]

Making the excuse for Covid-19 is now getting old.

Someone outta ask Lockheed Martin what are they planning on doing with the F-21 Program now? They spent a lotta money on that Simulator.

Getting all these Defense Contractors (Nations) excited only to settle for a domestically built jet. Hmmmm.

 

[nomi007]

Is MMRCA 2.0 Deal dead?
if yes then its
Good for PAF. Road to F-16 bk-70/72 has been clear.
also remaining 76 f-16s will get viper upgrade.

 

[ziaulislam]

U still didn't answer my question
Ranting is one thing
Kindly mention what is Pakistan's contribution to JF 17
Which part was actually designed in Pakistan

Btw Tejas is in combat service since 2017

We have the first squadron ready with 18 aircrafts and the second squadron is under induction
IAF will induct 83 units of Mk1A
Which improves the Radar, EW suite, and adds mid air refueling

Wings were designed in pakistan ..
Now give me proof that it wasnt lol

You probably need to go to school and leaen meaning of joint venture ..

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

https://theprint.in/defence/iaf-to-...nstead-of-foreign-jets-cds-rawat-says/421827/

The induction of Tejas will help India emerge as a key defence exporter due to its ‘relatively low price’, Rawat says.
SUDHI RANJAN SEN 14 May, 2020 7:54 pm IST

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New Delhi: India plans to switch to locally-made fighter jets, two years after asking global companies to submit proposals to supply 114 combat aircraft in the world’s biggest warplane contract.

The country’s air force is finalizing plans to induct indigenously made Light Combat Aircraft, Tejas to boost the capability of its aging combat aircraft fleet, Chief of Defence Staff Bipin Rawat said in an interview in New Delhi. It will buy an additional 83 jets, apart from an earlier deal for 40 aircraft, for $6 billion, he said.


“The Indian Air Force is switching that to the LCA,” Rawat said, when asked about the global tender for jets. “The IAF is saying, I would rather take the indigenous fighter, it is good.”


The decision is a set back for the likes of Boeing Co., Lockheed Martin Corp. and Saab AB who were in the race for the $15 billion order and another sign that India is abandoning costly foreign defense purchases which have been plagued by bureaucratic delays and a funding crunch. Prime Minister Narendra Modi this week stressed the need to buy locally made products to boost an economy battered by the Covid-19 outbreak.

“Since it has been decided to go the indigenous route, the Ministry of Defence must ensure ramping up” capacity at Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., the builder of the jet, said Manmohan Bahadur, additional director general at the New Delhi-based Centre for Airpower Studies. “The IAF, like the other services, has to maintain the required edge over our adversaries — emotions have to be eschewed.”


The induction of jets will help India emerge as a key defense exporter due to its “relatively low price,” Rawat said in his office in New Delhi. Several countries may be interested in purchasing the aircraft once they see them in operation with the airforce.


The process to buy fighter jets started more than a decade ago. India scrapped a long-awaited order with Dassault Aviation for 126 Rafales worth $11 billion in 2015, but has since bought 36 of the planes to speed replacement of older aircraft.

In April 2018, India floated a global tender seeking responses from global manufacturers to purchase 114 jets. The deal attracted initial offers from global giants like Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Sweden’s Saab AB and the Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30Mki and Su-35. At least 85% of production was to be in India, according to the initial document.


While New Delhi is the world’s third-biggest military spender, its air force, navy and the army are still equipped with weapons that are largely obsolete.

Local Production
The move to indigenous fighters marks a shift to start using locally made weaponry, Rawat said. The defense forces will be using a lot more domestically produced goods, and there is an understanding there may be some quality issues in the beginning, but these will be improved, he said.

“The artillery guns, air defense systems and radars will all be indigenous systems as well. We are doing well with artillery guns and in air defense systems,” he added. “We are also looking at ammunition manufacturing in our country in a very big way.”


Modi had made clear his intention of reducing India’s dependence on foreign made weapons platforms soon after taking over as leader in 2014 but the progress hasn’t been remarkable.

India desperately needs new aircraft to replace aging Soviet-era jets. It needs about 42 squadrons of fighters to defend its western and northern borders simultaneously but is making do with about 31 squadrons only. By 2022, it is likely to add on two more squadrons of the Rafale fighter.

While the IAF is backing the indigenous fighter program, there are several glitches, including faster delivery schedules and quality issues that still need to be ironed out. As per plans, the 123 Tejas fighters are to be followed by the Mark-II variant which are medium weight fighters. The test flight for the next generation Tejas aircraft is likely in 2022.


U.S., China and India were the world’s three biggest military spenders in 2019, followed by Russia and Saudi Arabia. The two Asian countries made it to the top three for the first time according to a recent report of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. For the fiscal 2020-21 India has earmarked $ 66.9 billion for defense but budget cuts are imminent because of CoVID-19 pandemic. – Bloomberg

India was planning to get

• 40 Tejas Mk1
• 83 Tejas Mk1A
• 110 MMRCA 2.0
• 36 Rafale

Now they are replacing that with

• 40 Tejas Mk1
• 83 Tejas Mk1A
• 36 Rafale

I can see several explanations for this.

1. The journalist got it wrong
2. The Chief of Defense got it wrong
3. The Chief of Defense lied to score a point

Indias need for fighters has not suddenly disappeared.
It may be that the Indian Government has come to the conclusion that they cannot afford MMRCA 2.0 but that would be too embarrassing to admit so they say that they replace foreign fighters by buying (83 Tejas Mk1A) instead of (83 Tejas Mk1A and 110 MMRCA 2.0).

NUMBERS DON’T ADD UP.

 

[MayaBazar]

Wow. We are fcuked. Only have hopes from army and navy now.

Easy. MMRCA 2.0 is being cancelled to make way for G2G with the US on F-35.

India was planning to get

• 40 Tejas Mk1
• 83 Tejas Mk1A
• 110 MMRCA 2.0
• 36 Rafale

Now they are replacing that with

• 40 Tejas Mk1
• 83 Tejas Mk1A
• 36 Rafale

I can see several explanations for this.

1. The journalist got it wrong
2. The Chief of Defense got it wrong
3. The Chief of Defense lied to score a point

Indias need for fighters has not suddenly disappeared.
It may be that the Indian Government has come to the conclusion that they cannot afford MMRCA 2.0 but that would be too embarrassing to admit so they say that they replace foreign fighters by buying (83 Tejas Mk1A) instead of (83 Tejas Mk1A and 110 MMRCA 2.0).

NUMBERS DON’T ADD UP.

It is simple.

MMRCA deal is being cancelled to go with a G2G deal with the US for F-35+THAAD.

Cancellation of S-400 will also be announced shortly.

 

[xeuss]

Easy. MMRCA 2.0 is being cancelled to make way for G2G with the US on F-35.


It is simple.

MMRCA deal is being cancelled to go with a G2G deal with the US for F-35+THAAD.

Cancellation of S-400 will also be announced shortly.

Is this speculation or are you basing it on something concrete?

 

[Metal 0-1]

So they fly?

 

[MayaBazar]

Is this speculation or are you basing it on something concrete?

That's what I heard from one of my friend in government service.

We will know by end of this year if it is true or false.

 

[xeuss]

That's what I heard from one of my friend in government service.

We will know by end of this year if it is true or false.

Might be one of those ideas being thrown around. Defense procurement is quite a long process, so hard to believe anything until it shows up at your door.

Thanks for the feedback though

 

[graphican]

Easy. MMRCA 2.0 is being cancelled to make way for G2G with the US on F-35.


It is simple.

MMRCA deal is being cancelled to go with a G2G deal with the US for F-35+THAAD.

The cancellation of S-400 will also be announced shortly.

You cannot opt-out of such deals because of change of mind and besides India has already paid $800 million for the procurement of the S-400 system as an advance payment. And even if India could back out of it - what do you think Russia would do to Indians for fondling with them and going to rival instead? India's defense hardware is primarily Russian.

 

[MayaBazar]

Might be one of those ideas being thrown around. Defense procurement is quite a long process, so hard to believe anything until it shows up at your door.

Thanks for the feedback though

I agree. It could be information or disinformation but I have strong reasons to believe that this is going to be true.

The grape wine is that India & US have already made the deal during this meeting

 

[xeuss]

I agree. It could be information or disinformation but I have strong reasons to believe that this is going to be true.

The grape wine is that India & US have already made the deal during this meeting

Well the S-400 would have to canceled first. So that would be a reliable indicator of things to come.

Would love to know whose getting the kickbacks. That always is interesting.

 

[MayaBazar]

Well the S-400 would have to canceled first. So that would be a reliable indicator of things to come.

Would love to know whose getting the kickbacks. That always is interesting.

Crony capitalism is a very refined form of corruption. It would be very hard to detect.

Well the S-400 would have to canceled first. So that would be a reliable indicator of things to come.

Would love to know whose getting the kickbacks. That always is interesting.

I hear that French are very unhappy. I foresee Rafale going the Scorpene way.

 

[xeuss]

Crony capitalism is a very refined form of corruption. It would be very hard to detect.

Glad some one is talking about it. Most posters here are oblivious to this part of the BJP government.

I hear that French are very unhappy. I foresee Rafale going the Scorpene way.

So they are going to scrap the remaining Rafales? Or will the 36 still come?