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IAF to Buy 83 more Tejas fighters from HAL instead of foreign jets, CDS Rawat says

Generally speaking the plan is for Block IV to make JF-17 as good or better than F-16. I think production of Block II started in late 2013 early 2014.

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Its not about jf 17 thread...

Why? Is Rafael not cutting it for India? After Rafael, will Tejas take IAF to the next levels?

In defense, cost matters when two equally functional products had a price gap. Tejas is not functional (or capable as Rafael) and India going for Tejas because of pricing makes no sense.

It's a old.. Already IAF is buying 83 HAL mk1a.

However, now looking forward we need to to focus on Hal Tejas mk2 because it will be more than enough to protect us since we are not going to flight against with US or Russia or France (they are having better aircraft's).

Rafale should be at China border since they are also have some decent aircrafts.

IAF need's to work on engine, finish job on Astra mk2 with range 150-160 km, uttam Asea radar and hal tejas mk2... Also, su30mki should get missiles with range between 150-200 km

When its done, we will get a buffer time to work on more advance fighters
 
I thought hal waiting for order.
Are you sure about LCH??

The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had cleared the proposal to induct an initial batch of 15 LCHs. Notwithstanding the final orders to formally come, HAL had gone ahead and began the process of manufacturing the limited series production (LSP) platforms.

Of the 15 LSPs, 10 are for the IAF and the remaining five for the Indian Army. There’s an additional projection of 65 LCHs for the IAF and 97 for the Indian Army.
 
Specially L&T they already delivered half order of k9 vajra before time. But TATA also good choice since they are in partnership with LM i think.
HAL should be privatized and acquired by Tata or Mahindra or L&T - firms with excellent engineering pedigree.
 
https://theprint.in/defence/iaf-to-...nstead-of-foreign-jets-cds-rawat-says/421827/

The induction of Tejas will help India emerge as a key defence exporter due to its ‘relatively low price’, Rawat says.
SUDHI RANJAN SEN 14 May, 2020 7:54 pm IST
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New Delhi: India plans to switch to locally-made fighter jets, two years after asking global companies to submit proposals to supply 114 combat aircraft in the world’s biggest warplane contract.

The country’s air force is finalizing plans to induct indigenously made Light Combat Aircraft, Tejas to boost the capability of its aging combat aircraft fleet, Chief of Defence Staff Bipin Rawat said in an interview in New Delhi. It will buy an additional 83 jets, apart from an earlier deal for 40 aircraft, for $6 billion, he said.


“The Indian Air Force is switching that to the LCA,” Rawat said, when asked about the global tender for jets. “The IAF is saying, I would rather take the indigenous fighter, it is good.”


The decision is a set back for the likes of Boeing Co., Lockheed Martin Corp. and Saab AB who were in the race for the $15 billion order and another sign that India is abandoning costly foreign defense purchases which have been plagued by bureaucratic delays and a funding crunch. Prime Minister Narendra Modi this week stressed the need to buy locally made products to boost an economy battered by the Covid-19 outbreak.

“Since it has been decided to go the indigenous route, the Ministry of Defence must ensure ramping up” capacity at Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., the builder of the jet, said Manmohan Bahadur, additional director general at the New Delhi-based Centre for Airpower Studies. “The IAF, like the other services, has to maintain the required edge over our adversaries — emotions have to be eschewed.”


The induction of jets will help India emerge as a key defense exporter due to its “relatively low price,” Rawat said in his office in New Delhi. Several countries may be interested in purchasing the aircraft once they see them in operation with the airforce.


The process to buy fighter jets started more than a decade ago. India scrapped a long-awaited order with Dassault Aviation for 126 Rafales worth $11 billion in 2015, but has since bought 36 of the planes to speed replacement of older aircraft.

In April 2018, India floated a global tender seeking responses from global manufacturers to purchase 114 jets. The deal attracted initial offers from global giants like Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Sweden’s Saab AB and the Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30Mki and Su-35. At least 85% of production was to be in India, according to the initial document.


While New Delhi is the world’s third-biggest military spender, its air force, navy and the army are still equipped with weapons that are largely obsolete.

Local Production
The move to indigenous fighters marks a shift to start using locally made weaponry, Rawat said. The defense forces will be using a lot more domestically produced goods, and there is an understanding there may be some quality issues in the beginning, but these will be improved, he said.

“The artillery guns, air defense systems and radars will all be indigenous systems as well. We are doing well with artillery guns and in air defense systems,” he added. “We are also looking at ammunition manufacturing in our country in a very big way.”


Modi had made clear his intention of reducing India’s dependence on foreign made weapons platforms soon after taking over as leader in 2014 but the progress hasn’t been remarkable.

India desperately needs new aircraft to replace aging Soviet-era jets. It needs about 42 squadrons of fighters to defend its western and northern borders simultaneously but is making do with about 31 squadrons only. By 2022, it is likely to add on two more squadrons of the Rafale fighter.

While the IAF is backing the indigenous fighter program, there are several glitches, including faster delivery schedules and quality issues that still need to be ironed out. As per plans, the 123 Tejas fighters are to be followed by the Mark-II variant which are medium weight fighters. The test flight for the next generation Tejas aircraft is likely in 2022.


U.S., China and India were the world’s three biggest military spenders in 2019, followed by Russia and Saudi Arabia. The two Asian countries made it to the top three for the first time according to a recent report of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. For the fiscal 2020-21 India has earmarked $ 66.9 billion for defense but budget cuts are imminent because of CoVID-19 pandemic. – Bloomberg



What low price?? It costs more than. Sukhoi
 
Main reasons for this mess is
1- After COVID19 heavy economic slowdown on way
2- The first 4 Rafael which should be in india by now are delayed.expected delivery beyond September.
3- 83 Tejas are already on mind of iaf despite Rafael

It's better to grab opportunity to create some jobs for countrymen after all covid 19 kill many jobs
In india.
Job creation over defence of the country. The last indigenous fighter the knat decided to surrender to PAF let see if the Tejas can go one better
 
India create compititions, make companies spend millions for lobying and the end result is india either cancelling the order or just order a small batch.
Soon none of those companies will trust india after such u turns twice in a row.

FYI Just today 24 Mh60 Romeo Helicopter deal confirmed by Lockheed Martin

Wow. We are fcuked. Only have hopes from army and navy now.
What happened?
You don't like Tejas?
 

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