IAF issues ASR for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA )

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India Develops Requirements For AMCA



India’s Aeronautical Development Agency is evaluating Indian air force requirements for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

The weight of the AMCA will not exceed 25 tons. The twin-engine configured aircraft will have a higher thrust being in the bigger weight category than the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

The Defense Research & Development Organization (DRDO) had announced earlier this year that the AMCA program would be launched in 2010. While unofficially work has started on the design, according to an official, the AMCA will be officially announced in 6-8 months. “There is nothing official about it… It is currently not a sanctioned project from the government. We are looking at the technical requirements submitted by the Indian air force,” the official told Aerospace DAILY.

The AMCA was earlier called the Medium Combat Aircraft. This [AMCA] is very different from the design of the MCA,” an official says.

The Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) that India is currently evaluating bids for is a 4.5-generation aircraft, an official says. “None of the contenders fall in the stealth configuration, which is the most important consideration for the AMCA.”

India hopes to develop stealth technologies indigenously. “We are looking at stealth features even for the LCA,” the official says. “We believe it can be developed here.”

Not having chosen an engine as yet, it is likely that the Kaveri Mk-2 engine presently being developed by Snecma and Gas Turbine Research Establishment will be used for the AMCA.

Kaveri was first conceived as an engine for the LCA developed by ADA. The LCA is currently powered by General Electric-404 engines with technical evaluations ongoing for a bid for 99 engines. The contenders are the F-414 and EJ-200.

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[jha]

IAF issues ASR for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA )

Indian Air Force has issued Air Staff Requirements for the Countries Next Generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) which will be designed and build in India .

Requirements laid down by Air force is

1 ) AMCA will not exceed 25 tons weight .

2 ) Twin engine powered aircraft with higher thrust.

3) AESA Radar

4) Semi – Stealth is not an option , IAF wants it to be fully Stealthy aircraft with low RCS .

5 ) Redesign in its currently proposed air frame design to make it more stealthier

6 ) More of Locally developed technology and less imported technology (Radars,Engines,Avionics)

Aircraft will be completely different then what earlier DRDO and ADE had put forward which was earlier known as Medium combat aircraft (MCA ) with Semi-stealth features , Government of India has not officially sanctioned the project but the ASR issued to DRDO will be studied and then Government will be approached for the funding .

DRDO will approach government in next six to seven months and by 2011 project funding will start with its first flight to be made by 2016-17 period and induction into air force by 2025 . DRDO is confident in developing most of the avionics for the AMCA in house ,while the Engine most probably will be Kaveri-2 which will be a joint venture between India and France , Sources close to idrw.org had indicated that contracts between India and France on development of Kaveri-2 was not signed due to requirements of the engine was not put forward by the air force .

Engine requirements should be 90kn in thrust ,Its almost sure that the first aircraft will not be powered by the Kaveri-2 since it will take more then 5 years to develop this engine for the aircraft and will only power the later developed prototype , mostly likely new engine which will power Tejas MK-2 either Ej-200 or Ge’s F414 will power initial aircraft . DRDO is currently planning three Prototypes of AMCA which will carry out initial test flights .

IAF issues ASR for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA ) idrw.org

 

[Kinetic]

Good to hear that. But they are very slow. Use the time to develop the system but not taking decision.All the best.

 

[gowthamraj]

it would be very nice,if it ready for induction with in 2020

 

[sudhir007]

Good to hear that. But they are very slow. Use the time to develop the system but not taking decision.All the best.

if you see the time frame you will find that new a/c built take time F-22, F-35, Rafale, Euro fighter even pak-fa. so 15yr not unusual yes if they take time like lca then it will be considerable.

 

[Kinetic]

if you see the time frame you will find that new a/c built take time F-22, F-35, Rafale, Euro fighter even pak-fa. so 15yr not unusual yes if they take time like lca then it will be considerable.

They said it will be 15 but did you believed that? The actual development of time to incduction phase may take 15 years but I a sure they will take atleast another six to seven years to sanction the project. Indian Netas and Babus are the best.

 

[Break the Silence]

Well great news to hear, but 2025 is a long time to watch, I hope ,it will not go in tejas way!

 

[Indian_Idol]

IAF issues ASR for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA )

Indian Air Force has issued Air Staff Requirements for the Countries Next Generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) which will be designed and build in India .

Requirements laid down by Air force is

1 ) AMCA will not exceed 25 tons weight .

2 ) Twin engine powered aircraft with higher thrust.

3) AESA Radar

4) Semi – Stealth is not an option , IAF wants it to be fully Stealthy aircraft with low RCS .

5 ) Redesign in its currently proposed air frame design to make it more stealthier

6 ) More of Locally developed technology and less imported technology (Radars,Engines,Avionics)

Aircraft will be completely different then what earlier DRDO and ADE had put forward which was earlier known as Medium combat aircraft (MCA ) with Semi-stealth features , Government of India has not officially sanctioned the project but the ASR issued to DRDO will be studied and then Government will be approached for the funding .

DRDO will approach government in next six to seven months and by 2011 project funding will start with its first flight to be made by 2016-17 period and induction into air force by 2025 . DRDO is confident in developing most of the avionics for the AMCA in house ,while the Engine most probably will be Kaveri-2 which will be a joint venture between India and France , Sources close to idrw.org had indicated that contracts between India and France on development of Kaveri-2 was not signed due to requirements of the engine was not put forward by the air force .

Engine requirements should be 90kn in thrust ,Its almost sure that the first aircraft will not be powered by the Kaveri-2 since it will take more then 5 years to develop this engine for the aircraft and will only power the later developed prototype , mostly likely new engine which will power Tejas MK-2 either Ej-200 or Ge’s F414 will power initial aircraft . DRDO is currently planning three Prototypes of AMCA which will carry out initial test flights .

IAF issues ASR for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA ) idrw.org

this requirement is a real challenge for DRDO.. i hope they will do their best..

Jai Hind

 

[Kompromat]

Good luck with this one !

Is it fully home made or a JV with another nation?

 

[Indian_Idol]

Good luck with this one !

Is it fully home made or a JV with another nation?

i think it will be 85-95% home made but not 100% home made for sure... and its not a JV

 

[Creder]

Well lets see if you guys learned any lessons from Tejas or not, In the end it ended up with a foreign engine, a good chance its gonna end up with a foreign radar..but lessons learned, hopefully kaveri and the radar will mature along with other techs enough so that AMCA doesnt go tejas way

 

[ek_indian]

^^^

You are giving impression as Tejas is a failed project where it is not.
But I agree with rest of post. We should wait and watch.

 

[Gene]

During the development of Tejas which is India’s first indigenously made fighter both DRDO & HAL has learned many things, as they had to develop this fighter from scrap. The delay is mainly due to the development of the technologies for the aircraft, which HAL do not have experience before.

But this new fighter will not take as much time tejas had taken. Now both DRDO & HAL have some expertise in fighter aircraft development...
But take some time as it is a fifth generation with stealth design.

I will wait to see the beast in Indian tricolor...

 

[yashchauhan]

Well great news to hear, but 2025 is a long time to watch, I hope ,it will not go in tejas way!

well a key reason behind tejas's delay was that india directly jumped from a second gen aircraft HAL Marut to a 4.5 gen one......but as now we a enough expertise i don't think much delay will be there and the good news is that Godrej Aerospace-which provided technological support to our chandrayaan mission is also participating....also in the list is Titan Industries (the famous Indian watchmaker of the world)!

 

[amoverlord]

great news........we r going in the right direction............