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IAF grounds Sukhoi till ‘precautionary checks’ over | idrw.org

A frontline Sukhoi-30MKIcrashed near Pune on Tuesday afternoon soon after taking off from the Lohegaon airbase, forcing IAF to temporarily suspend flying of the country’s most potent and advanced fighters till “precautionary checks” are carried out. Fortunately, the two pilots Wing Commander G S Sohal and Flight Lieutenant U Nautiyal managed to eject safely before the “air-superiority” twin-engine fighter went down in an open field at around 1.10 pm.

The pilots ensured the crashing jet would not cause casualties on the ground, said Lohegaon airbase chief, Air Commodore V R Chaudhari.

Added another senior officer, “The Sukhois have not been grounded…But yes, they will undergo some systematic technical checks now before they take to the skies again. The multi-role fighters have had a great safety track-record.”

The Sukhois are not the new MiG-21s, having recorded only three crashes in the last 13 years unlike the latter that go down with alarming regularity, the crash has heightened long-standing concerns about the poor servicing and the maintenance record of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).

HAL is manufacturing under licence the bulk of the 272 Sukhois ordered from Russia in deals worth Rs 55,717 crore. IAF has inducted over 130 Sukhois, with a couple of squadrons even coming up in Tezpur and Chabua airbases in Assam in the last couple of years as “a strategic deterrent” against China.

Though IAF ordered a court of inquiry to ascertain the exact reason behind Tuesday’s crash, what accentuated concerns is that preliminary reports held the mishap was due to “technical problems”, possibly due to the failure of “fly-by-wire (FBW) control system”.

“There was no engine failure or `flame-out’. It seems the pilots lost the controls of the fighter, leaving them with no option but to undertake planned ejection,” said an officer.

The main reason behind one of the two earlier Sukhoi crashes in 2009 was attributed to the FBW system (the other was due to “a fuel leak”), which led to summoning of Russian engineers to probe the crash and the entire Sukhoi fleet being grounded for three weeks.

Later, it emerged that one of the pilots had accidentally switched off the FBW system, located behind him in the cockpit, while trying to change the radar mode from one frequency to another.

“It was a combination of pilot error and a design flaw in the FBW system master-switch. Since then, all Sukhois have been modified to add a safety guard to prevent the accidental switching off of the FBW system,” he said.

The suspicion is again on the FBW system now. If the technical defect is major in terms of system malfunction or design problem, Russian engineers might once again be called to assist HAL and IAF in probing the crash. IAF itself is keen to clear the air soon, with plans already underway to base Sukhoi squadrons in Halwara (Punjab) and Jodhpur (Rajasthan) for the western front.

As reported earlier by TOI, 39.5% of the over 1,000 crashes recorded by IAF since 1970 have been blamed on “technical defects”, with “human error” being the second major reason with 39%. Since 2008, over 30 fighters (16 of them MiG-21s) and 10 helicopters have crashed, killing 26 military personnel and six civilians.
 
At least now consider the privatization of spare parts manufacturing.... It is a competitive world, DRDO should be challenged!
 
That's at least the third time the SU-30s have been grounded,
Previous faults were found in the fan blades and the fuel pumps.
 
That's at least the third time the SU-30s have been grounded,
Previous faults were found in the fan blades and the fuel pumps.

Better be safe than sorry.. thats why just 3 crashes in 13 years of service I guess.
 
That's at least the third time the SU-30s have been grounded,
Previous faults were found in the fan blades and the fuel pumps.

Previous two crashes were attributed to FBW and Fuel leakage causing flame out...Never heard about fan blades
 
the Su30 has an amazing safety record in India . i doubt any other fighter being flown as regularly as this one had only 3 crashes in over a decade. a wise precaution to ground all of them .:tup:
 
Previous two crashes were attributed to FBW and Fuel leakage causing flame out...Never heard about fan blades
Read my post again. !!
Did I say the crashes occurred due to those faults.?? :disagree:
 
Read my post again. !!
Did I say the crashes occurred due to those faults.?? :disagree:

You know, I really do not know what you are getting at :lol:

mmm...you know compared to the F-15, the SU-30 has a good safety record. I am comparing them since both are in the same class.

Let's see, ever since 2001 till now, there have been around 13 class A crashes for the F-15, with a total of 15 F-15s gone. Most of them were US. Few were Saudi, Korean and Japanese. And pilots did often get killed.

And not only that, the F-15 is much older than the SU-30 (although a derivative of the SU-27, the grandfather of all that would be Flankers).

Also, the F-15 is extremely expensive.

Not saying that the F-15 is inferior to the SU-30 or any derivative. The point is that the SU-30 has a better overall safety record till now.
 
You know, I really do not know what you are getting at :lol:

mmm...you know compared to the F-15, the SU-30 has a good safety record. I am comparing them since both are in the same class.

Let's see, ever since 2001 till now, there have been around 13 class A crashes for the F-15, with a total of 15 F-15s gone. Most of them were US. Few were Saudi, Korean and Japanese. And pilots did often get killed.

And not only that, the F-15 is much older than the SU-30 (although a derivative of the SU-27, the grandfather of all that would be Flankers).

Also, the F-15 is extremely expensive.

Not saying that the F-15 is inferior to the SU-30 or any derivative. The point is that the SU-30 has a better overall safety record till now.

Merely said it was grounded twice before.....even before the first crash......that's all.
Perhaps you would also want to take the F-15s combat record record into account no forgetting the hours logged by each respective designated aircraft.
 
Merely said it was grounded twice before.....even before the first crash......that's all.
Perhaps you would also want to take the F-15s combat record record into account no forgetting the hours logged by each respective designated aircraft.

Moreover.. one must take into account that the actual mirror to the Su-30 is the F-15E..
And its record is VERY good.
 
Merely said it was grounded twice before.....even before the first crash......that's all.
Perhaps you would also want to take the F-15s combat record record into account no forgetting the hours logged by each respective designated aircraft.

Of-course, the F-15 is far more combat proven than any Flanker or MiG can ever hope to achieve.

And IAF pilots do fly a healthy number of hours on their Flankers.

I am saying purely from safety record :)
 
the Su30 has an amazing safety record in India . i doubt any other fighter being flown as regularly as this one had only 3 crashes in over a decade. a wise precaution to ground all of them .:tup:

Overall record is good, but recent record is bad and alarming two aircrafts crashed in 2009 and one in 2011 thats 3 crashes in 3 years. Two of them were assembled by HAL and if this trend continues SU-30MKI is future Mig-21.:smokin:

I hope SU-30MKI will remain ground for the period of one month or more until crash investigations complete.
 
Amazing how many expert pilots and engineers Pakistan produces that hang on these forums-unfortunately they are still not able to read an article and comprehend it well. Let me try to explain it to them...

Imagine you have a car and in the car you have a handbrake switch near you elbow. Now imagine that sometimes when to turn your car to the left or right, your elbow hits that switch and it jams the car up.

That's what two out three cashes were attributed to...a design issue that is fixable. It was not because it was a grave issue or because it was made in india. Now the current grounding is a safety protocol used by every modern air force(s), in the world.
 
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