IAF fighters makes first staging visit to KSA!o

[Gufi]

You see, they are already accusing us of 'letting India build a military base in Chabahar to attack Pakistan' from there. Do you see how ridiculous this sounds? In this very thread, I was discussing the issue with @Gufi and he said it, and I believe he is not alone in this.

actually was talking in general.. did not discuss only the port.. please show me otherwise or where you got that impression. We were talking about regional relationships and I was clear that any economic relationships we hope the best for Iran and any defence pacts directly affecting Pakistan is the only sticking point that may stop an otherwise very promising relationship whose foundations are being laid.

 

[IceCold]

Saudis were always warmed up to Indians, just look at the work force these gulf countries import from India. In UAE Indians are more respected than any Pakistani, yet we the stupid bunch feel proud in having Al-Bakistan number plates on our vehicles instead of Pakistan.
I dont see or expect any reaction from Slave Sharif on this. Obviously he cant bite the hand that feeds him and gives him shelter when thrown out like a Garbage that he is. Also we have munafaqat of Diesel and other so called pathetic mullahs as well who will incite violence for the sake of rayals from Saudi Arabia.
By the way whats stopping us from accepting Israel as a country and establishing formal diplomatic ties with them? Lets do that and stop this Ummah BS.

Exactly. This is a great excuse to liberate ourselves from the clutches of Wahabist school of thought. An excellent opportunity to use as a 'marketing leverage' to educate our stupid masses. This can be a great starting point, as Saudi is going to make many more such mistakes, which we should milk, as it comes along.

And who is going to use this excellent opportunity to use as a marketing leverage to educate our stupid masses? Nawaz Sharif and his government lolll.

Acha mazak kerta hain app.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Why Iran will be worried what we do with SA?? We are not expecting neither Iran nor SA will stand with us at the time of war??? And we understand it too...So we always prefer to have trade relation with all the nations...Even we are ready to with Pakistan too..So that does not mean you will be our ally if you do trade with us...Same rule is applicable for Iran, SA, Israel..

u ARE!

 

[Kaniska]

u ARE!

It is your imagination friend...India never expect SA or Iran will stand with India at the time of war with Pakistan because, we know they will follow the ummah rule stand with you...And of course we do not mind with it.We are self sufficient enough to defend us...Rather our approach to Iran and SA is more trade and investment oriented to secure our energy supply lines for us.

Saudis were always warmed up to Indians, just look at the work force these gulf countries import from India. In UAE Indians are more respected than any Pakistani, yet we the stupid bunch feel proud in having Al-Bakistan number plates on our vehicles instead of Pakistan.
I dont see or expect any reaction from Slave Sharif on this. Obviously he cant bite the hand that feeds him and gives him shelter when thrown out like a Garbage that he is. Also we have munafaqat of Diesel and other so called pathetic mullahs as well who will incite violence for the sake of rayals from Saudi Arabia.
By the way whats stopping us from accepting Israel as a country and establishing formal diplomatic ties with them? Lets do that and stop this Ummah BS.



And who is going to use this excellent opportunity to use as a marketing leverage to educate our stupid masses? Nawaz Sharif and his government lolll.

Acha mazak kerta hain app.

I think you are mixing 2 different things...You have to understand that Gulf nations have one good things is that although they see the world through their religion, still then when they do business, they somehow keep religion aside...That means, when anything that impacts them personally, they really don't give a damn about Ummah thing..Which is something we should learn from them..That is why in spite of so much of anti Islam feeling, the citadel of Islamic nation from where radicalism has been started has not been absolutely impacted...The impact of anti Islamic phobia was visible for people from South Asia who are economically and politically poor to go against it...So Pakistan in particular have to face all the heat....

So my point is Gulf people saw the economic benifit in bringing Indian people to their country although Indian are not preferred one than Pakistanis...May be Indian are more educated class who are going to Gulf and also Indian inductry is also investing in a big was in Gulf too...So they basically choose economic benifit for their own people rather than blindly following Ummah rule in the economic relationship with India...So if Pakistan can match to India contributing economic benifit to Gulf nations, then they prefer you too...And that is why they are allies of the West in spite of so much of tough time of Muslim nations with West in particular...So Pakistan should not expect that just because you are a Muslim nation, due to ummah concept, they will prefer you in their trade and investment than other people...This preference will of course happen in political space but apart from political space, they will see their own benifit...

 

[Nilgiri]

By the way whats stopping us from accepting Israel as a country and establishing formal diplomatic ties with them? Lets do that and stop this Ummah BS.

I agree with you. It would be a mature move by Pakistan, but such a proposal will cause a lot of anger within Pakistan for even being contemplated. Emotions about Israel run quite deep, I don't see it being done by any govt in the near future.

As for this whole news about IAF stopping over in KSA, I don't see what the fuss is all about. KSA and Pakistan relationship is certainly not challenged in any way by it.

As for why KSA employs many more Indian labourers than Pakistanis. It is simple supply and demand working. Arabs do not give much preferential treatment to religious "brothers" when money is on the line! Indians,Pakistanis,Nepalese, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans are all the same to them for the most part...whatever name they call god or however much they may hate one another! Sooner everyone understands this, the better.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

It is your imagination friend...India never expect SA or Iran will stand with India at the time of war with Pakistan because, we know they will follow the ummah rule stand with you...And of course we do not mind with it.We are self sufficient enough to defend us...Rather our approach to Iran and SA is more trade and investment oriented to secure our energy supply lines for us.



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thats what u think. Yr research officers of RAW will like to differ. Key is strategic partnership with iran and oil of KSA!

 

[Kaniska]

thats what u think. Yr research officers of RAW will like to differ. Key is strategic partnership with iran and oil of KSA!

And do you think Iran and SA are so fool that they wont understand and they will just play into India...Come on man...It is not what India want or Pakistan want, i am telling you the perspective of what SA or Iran want..Think from their perspective...

 

[Umair Nawaz]

And do you think Iran and SA are so fool that they wont understand and they will just play into India...Come on man...It is not what India want or Pakistan want, i am telling you the perspective of what SA or Iran want..Think from their perspective...

son, its all abt money!

 

[Kaniska]

son, its all abt money!

That is what i am saying...It is all about money..nothing else..

 

[Umair Nawaz]

That is what i am saying...It is all about money..nothing else..

else as well through money!

 

[Skywalker]

The big mouth belongs to someone who thinks everyone is backstabbing them, while it's harming neighbors indirectly itself. How about you man up and face your problem like man once? Instead of making nanny excuses and blaming others.

I don't give a flying damn about India-Saudi relations and it doesn't concern me at all, my whole point is, exposing true face of those Saudi-loving gang who are bad mouthing Iran 24/7 because of having economic relations with India. It's not your business who we are dealing with, the same ways it's not our business if Pakistan has relations with U.S or Saudis.



That's right, countries do what's in their interests, it's up to Pakistan to do the same. You can't tell us what to do and we can't tell you what to do.

The most stupid thing one can do is trying to keep every living thing satisfied. For years, the whole 'Muslim ummah' crap has backstabbed us hundreds of times, so give me one single reason on why we should give a damn what others think anymore? Everyone tries to say 'Iran did this, Iran did that', but if you look at decisions your leaders made in past decades it's 'them' who screwed up Pakistan's security, by messing with Afghan security and also taking Saudi money and closing their eyes and promoting an ideology that is now spread like a virus in region.

Blame us all you want, but at the end, you should wake up to this harsh reality that 'your' leaders made those decisions, not ours and you are responsible for your problems not Iran.

Despite the love and appreciation I hold for common Pakistanis and its founding father and ideals, I won't spare a second to stand up against their argument that Iran is to blame for their problems and closing their eyes on Saudis (and their own leaders) and thousands of Madrassas and equating Iran's role with that of Saudis. I won't accept that.

Please don't take any offense if I'm being straight forward, it would make things easier.

Then tell your mullahs to stop proxy wars in Pakistan before we take this in to your boundary. We never had Shia Sunni issues before but because of your proxies we are going through with this mess, always remember what goes around comes around.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I'd love to see those KSA-loving Pakistanis who are bashing Iran 24/7 solely for having economic relations with India, this is getting very interesting. Of course, I'm sure you can't usually find them in threads like this. Now I see your 'true' friend, the one who has always 'helped you in hard times', is hosting Indian Air force in order to, as stated in article, give the Indo-Saudi relations a boost.

@OTTOMAN @Zarvan @rockstar08 @Akheilos and others whom I may have forgot. I remember your posts very well about how Iran has 'back-stabbed' Pakistan. Now it's time to wake up to this harsh reality, Iran will be your least of concerns.

Saudis were good to Pakistan as long as Pakistan followed 'their interests'. Now the immediate signs of refusing to be their paid army in Yemen are starting to show off.

@Horus, what's your take on this?

I see what you're trying to do here. Anyway, you guys were counting on Pakistani abstinence from taking part in the Decisive Storm Operation, and you got that, you celebrated like it was the ultimate victory for you, but what happened next? The Arab coalition went on and couldn't do any better with or without Pakistan as you clearly see.