IAF fighters makes first staging visit to KSA!o

[Gufi]

@Armstrong @Gufi. Here is another story;

thank you both of you...
i did not have it in me to respond to any more trolls or weirdos...

 

[ayesha.a]

Yes this was a quote of me talking to him. What about my mentality are you trying to talk about?

Sorry, I didn't mean you in particular. I was referring in general to the difference in mentality between Iranians and (many) Pakistanis on this forum, regarding foreign bases on their soil. Iranians are outraged at such a suggestion, while many Pakistanis are desperately wishing for that.

you seem to have problems with comprehension, there are a difference between access and having bases.

Or they understood that a submarine deal was eminent

actually it is your mentality which sees everything in the worst light, yes we want Gwadar to be built by the Chinese and have their help running it. Their experience and investments are appreciated and will help us as a country.
Show me one link of a military base being run by PLAN in Pakistan, ships make visits all the time, PLAN visited Indian harbours some time ago... wonder what you make of that then... If PLAN needs a base to dock and resupply it will feel easier doing it with an ally who they can trust.

try reading more than what you want to read.

another stupid assumption of yours...

Where did I ever mention a naval base

Again: My post had nothing to do with you, or your post. I was referring to many Pakistanis who have expressed their desire for a PLAN base in Pak.

Haha, you sound like a clown right now.

OK, if you say so.

Only if you stop posting nonsense .. Instead of getting embarassed every single time ... With your pathetic and baseless statements ..?

I cannot counter such a perspicacious and incisive response. Bravo!

 

[JonAsad]

I'd love to see those KSA-loving Pakistanis who are bashing Iran 24/7 solely for having economic relations with India, this is getting very interesting. Of course, I'm sure you can't usually find them in threads like this. Now I see your 'true' friend, the one who has always 'helped you in hard times', is hosting Indian Air force in order to, as stated in article, give the Indo-Saudi relations a boost.

@OTTOMAN @Zarvan @rockstar08 @Akheilos and others whom I may have forgot. I remember your posts very well about how Iran has 'back-stabbed' Pakistan. Now it's time to wake up to this harsh reality, Iran will be your least of concerns.

Saudis were good to Pakistan as long as Pakistan followed 'their interests'. Now the immediate signs of refusing to be their paid army in Yemen are starting to show off.

@Horus, what's your take on this?

let us call iranian tomcats for exercise -

 

[ayesha.a]

And most of this nonsense comes from old but retarded posters like capt Popeye and the other indian troll just follow the suite... This ayesha woman is an example... She hardly talks sense ... and shamelessly sticks with her concocted tales..

Yes, I can see how much you have contributed to the discussion so far. Have you ever tried a substantial rebuttal, instead of these juvenile personal attacks? Unless you come up with something tangible and relevant, I don't see the point in responding to you anymore. Some people discuss ideas, other people talk about people.

In the 80s this "respectable" country also let CIA establish a spying station on their "soil" to eavesdrop on China.. You can google this one.."Spies on the roof of the world"..
The batteries of that particular device were made of plutonium .. One was lost and they were shittin bricks that it may explode or turn the water or area into radioactive wasteland ..
[/URL]

I'm pretty sure India had enough scientific knowledge to know that Plutonium is not a chemical explosive like TNT, and will not suddenly go "BANG". That's not how radioactively unstable atoms behave. Batteries turning an area into a nuclear wasteland, really?

@Armstrong @Gufi. Here is another story;

U.S. planes used Indian airbase to snoop on China: The Hindu - Mobile edition

At least we didn't lease out our bases to USA to bomb our own people, did we? Ridiculous for Pakistanis to talk about such trivialities, when for the past decade and more, they have been fighting America's war and paying the consequences.

And I'm guessing that you've been privy to what the highest circles of Pakistan's military and civilian executive have been deciding for the past few decades to know whether they've got a 'another country XYZ fighting for us' as a trump card up their sleeve ?



Aaaahh well guess the secret is out...init ? But pray tell me did the Air and Naval Chiefs themselves sent you a memo to that effect or did you use your admirable powers of omniscience to divine that ?

And you've seen statements on this forum by random Pakistanis talking about what ? Increased Sino-Pak cooperation - What the devil is wrong with that ? Basing PLAN here, KSA's Euro-fighters and launching furious attacks from Gwadar Port and so on as you go on - Might I suggest that when that self-righteousness of yours has piped down you might consider that this forum is frequented by tens of thousands of Pakistanis in a country of nearly 200 million of them - None of whom speak for the Government or any of the Institutions of Pakistan !

If I had a dime for everytime some ludicrous nonsense had come out of the mouth of an Indian on this forum - I'd have given Mittal a run for his money....so please spare us these anecdotal 'some of them', 'statements on this forum from Pakistanis' and 'some of them are ecstatic' !

And if basing foreign personnel on one's soil is such a heinous crime for a respectable nation as your continued self-righteous drivel contents; might I suggest that you pass that message on to the Australians to shut down their Pine Gap station, the Israelis for letting the US 6th fleet stay in Haifa, the Japanese for letting the US 7th fleet stay in Okinawa, the Singaporeans for letting the US use the Paya Lebar air base and a whole host of other countries. And while you're at it remember to send your Government a memo to ask the Singaporeans to empty the Kalaikonda air base in West Bengal, including residential block and stores.



And I am sure you must be sitting on some insiders meeting somewhere where the Pakistani Air Chief and his Foreign Counterpart were, after a long and fruitful exercise, making plans on jointly raiding Indian Air Fields ?

Be sensible - Don't let your Hate for Pakistan and Pakistanis blind you so much that you utter such incontrovertible nonsense that its not even funny !

I have made it very clear, in all my posts, that I was talking about Pakistani PDF members. Not about the "highest echelons" of blah blah. Your entire post is therefore futile, and misdirected.

BTW there are loads of miscomparisons to other countries in your post. For example, Singapore does not have an airbase in Kalaikunda - they have a detachment there for training and exercising. India benefits by training against F-16s, and Singapore against Flankers - these are the two types each country's adversary possesses.

 

[Armstrong]

I have made it very clear, in all my posts, that I was talking about Pakistani PDF members. Not about the "highest echelons" of blah blah. Your entire post is therefore futile, and misdirected.

Ain't that convenient; like I said if we start giving credence to whatever comes out of the mouth of every Indian on PDF we'd have lovely anecdotes of our own to extrapolate over an entire Nation.

BTW there are loads of miscomparisons to other countries in your post. For example, Singapore does not have an airbase in Kalaikunda - they have a detachment there for training and exercising. India benefits by training against F-16s, and Singapore against Flankers - these are the two types each country's adversary possesses.

I did not say that Singapore has an airbase in Kalaikonda I said that if basing foreign personnel on one's own soil is so reprehensible for a respectable nation than you should ask your Government to ask the Singaporeans to empty that base (along with the construction they've done over there).

If Pakistan allows any foreign personnel on Pakistani soil (in Gwadar, Shamshi or anywhere) they wouldn't be there for playing Polo either but to benefit us as well just as India benefits from the training.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Muharram is close by, save your weeping and chest beating for that month.

I'd love to see those KSA-loving Pakistanis who are bashing Iran 24/7 solely for having economic relations with India, this is getting very interesting. Of course, I'm sure you can't usually find them in threads like this. Now I see your 'true' friend, the one who has always 'helped you in hard times', is hosting Indian Air force in order to, as stated in article, give the Indo-Saudi relations a boost.

@OTTOMAN @Zarvan @rockstar08 @Akheilos and others whom I may have forgot. I remember your posts very well about how Iran has 'back-stabbed' Pakistan. Now it's time to wake up to this harsh reality, Iran will be your least of concerns.

Saudis were good to Pakistan as long as Pakistan followed 'their interests'. Now the immediate signs of refusing to be their paid army in Yemen are starting to show off.

@Horus, what's your take on this?

 

[ayesha.a]

Ain't that convenient;

It also happens to be true. I have only mocked the attitude and posts of PDF members regarding a foreign base.

Yes I know that the posts of PDF members do not become national policy. But then, neither does my calling them out. On a particular forum, can't I discuss the opinions of others in the forum, whether or not they represent their country's official positions?

I did not say that Singapore has an airbase in Kalaikonda I said that if basing foreign personnel on one's own soil is so reprehensible for a respectable nation than you should ask your Government to ask the Singaporeans to empty that base (along with the construction they've done over there).

If Pakistan allows any foreign personnel on Pakistani soil (in Gwadar, Shamshi or anywhere) they wouldn't be there for playing Polo either but to benefit us as well just as India benefits from the training.

If "basing foreign personnel" on their own soil is what I was talking about, I would already have pointed out the large PLA presence in Pakistani Kashmir, for example. That has already happened. I was only talking about hosting foreign military bases in the hope that that would deter the enemy. Many on PDF have stated that, and that is what I was talking about.

 

[Kaniska]

More and more, I read your comical responses, more I get to understand the psychi of extremist, who almost destroyed Pakistan to please Arabs.

Do not blame him...Just to add a pointer...Zarvan has got the max positive rating than any other even Pakistan posters...That means, even in PDF there are Pakistan posters who follow him and his ideology where shamelessly he puts Arabs are more supreme than even your own nation..

 

[Armstrong]

It also happens to be true. I have only mocked the attitude and posts of PDF members regarding a foreign base.

Yes I know that the posts of PDF members do not become national policy. But then, neither does my calling them out. On a particular forum, can't I discuss the opinions of others in the forum, whether or not they represent their country's official positions?

Launch a vitriol against Pakistan and qualify it as 'calling out some members' - That is convenient ! I should try it sometime.

If "basing foreign personnel" on their own soil is what I was talking about, I would already have pointed out the large PLA presence in Pakistani Kashmir, for example. That has already happened. I was only talking about hosting foreign military bases in the hope that that would deter the enemy. Many on PDF have stated that, and that is whom I was talking about.

What large PLA presence in AJK or GB ? For godsake ma'am what are we hiding the Chinese under make-up and mascara that no one has been able to get a whiff of the 'large presence' there ? And please don't retort with 'media black-ought' and whatnot - I was there a few months ago....I saw what passes for the pervading influence of the Army there...unless they've copied Marvel's Ant Man there was nothing of the sort that you guys believe happens in this part of Kashmir - No mass graves, no weekly protests against human rights abuses, no stonepelters, no curfews.....no nothing of the sort !

Besides what do we want the Chinese to do for us here ? Stop an Indian incursion on the LOC ? Seriously ?

 

[waz]

I'd love to see those KSA-loving Pakistanis who are bashing Iran 24/7 solely for having economic relations with India, this is getting very interesting.

Lol....I wish people would just stop seeing in black and white. Just because a neighbour, ally trades, in this case has exercises with, doesn't mean they have forsaken you.

 

[Kaniska]

same thing i was abt to ask, how r u viewing yr friend n ally India boosting its relations with yr arch rival?

Why Iran will be worried what we do with SA?? We are not expecting neither Iran nor SA will stand with us at the time of war??? And we understand it too...So we always prefer to have trade relation with all the nations...Even we are ready to with Pakistan too..So that does not mean you will be our ally if you do trade with us...Same rule is applicable for Iran, SA, Israel..

 

[ayesha.a]

Launch a vitriol against Pakistan and qualify it as 'calling out some members' - That is convenient ! I should try it sometime.

As I said, convenient or not, it is certainly true. Pretty much every post of mine makes that clear. These are from the two posts in which (as you think) I launched a vitriol against Pakistan:

I'm not sure how clearer I could be, that I was talking about posts on PDF, and not about the doctrine of GHQ. You are tilting at windmills.

If I was interested in a petty my-country-versus-yours fight, I would have insisted that it is Pakistan's national trait, instead of clarifying that I only meant posters on PDF.

 

[Kaniska]

Young man I've been here longer than you have; this isn't the first time I've heard self-righteous nonsense being spewed by Indians and it won't be the last. But what else can you expect from a people who've got a pathological hatred for all things Pakistan and Pakistani ?

So far as the topic is concerned - Our relationship with the rest of the world ought to be talk to, work with and learn from EVERYONE.....trust, comprise for and believe - NO ONE !

Read his posts man..Your friend Gufi is insulted by your own people...Why to blame Indian only???

 

[Serpentine]

Lol....I wish people would just stop seeing in black and white. Just because a neighbour, ally trades, in this case has exercises with, doesn't mean they have forsaken you.

That is absolutely my point bro, I think you got it all wrong.

I am lashing out at those Pakistanis who repeat Iran has 'backstabbed Pakistan' 24/7 like a record, only because Iran and India have trades. Now you won't find them in threads like this, saying 'Saudis have backstabbed Pakistan' for whatever stupid reason they think. I know a simple joint exercise doesn't mean anything serious has changed, and that's the whole point, to expose those hypocrites who tend to act selective when it comes to Iran and rest of 'Muslim Ummah' in regards to India.

Muharram is close by, save your weeping and chest beating for that month.

No, you keep the weeping for the 'honeymoon' in Indo-Saudi relations. I don't give a flying mouse what India and Saudis do with each other, don't you get the whole point yet? I just showed true face of some hypocrites who weep all day about Iran-India relations and are nowhere to be found in threads like this.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes, I can see how much you have contributed to the discussion so far. Have you ever tried a substantial rebuttal, instead of these juvenile personal attacks? Unless you come up with something tangible and relevant, I don't see the point in responding to you anymore. Some people discuss ideas, other people talk about peopl

Not juvenile insult speaking the truth... Seems i hit a nerve ... Your pathetic claims have ben busted a billion times but you are literally shame proof an tend to stick to your false statements !

I'm pretty sure India had enough scientific knowledge to know that Plutonium is not a chemical explosive like TNT, and will not suddenly go "BANG". That's not how radioactively unstable atoms behave. Batteries turning an area into a nuclear wasteland, really?

im sure weapons plutonium is a radio active element and If exposed to human can result in dangerous consequences .. Even retarded babies .. .. Which was why the tried to do it but couldn't ! And planted a second one.

Mayb the "self respecting" nation had forgotten "shame" and left the CIA to plant and establish a spyin center ? No shame when you do that ain't it right!

At least we didn't lease out our bases to USA to bomb our own people, did we? Ridiculous for Pakistanis to talk about such trivialities, when for the past decade and more, they have been fighting America's war and paying the consequences.

First you claim we support taliban than you claim we aren't fighting them.. Than you claim we are fighting Americas war ? Well babes apparently we are fighting our own war .. With elements you support ... And US didn't station its aircraft on shamsi but drones which were used to target Pakistans most wanted terrorists.. With help from ISI .. Win win for us ... but was evacuated by govt under public pressure (negative your precious nonsensical claims about Pak mentality).


What about you ? You are pathetic.. I wonder how you even ave the gal to talk about giving bases to Foriegn countries to let them use your soil to station their aircraft .. Put your people in danger to spy on China ... Publically call you "bastards" and weak ... And your leaders as bitxhes or witches ?

You have your ab to Singaporean aswell
Seems you are nothing but a shameless nation of biggot and hypocrites ... ??

Have some shame! Before pointing at others looking into the mirror .. Pathetic as always!

Lol....I wish people would just stop seeing in black and white. Just because a neighbour, ally trades, in this case has exercises with, doesn't mean they have forsaken you.

Funny thing is there is no exercise .. But a stay in KSA on the way to india from UK... Even our jets have "stayed" in india for refuelling...