IAF deploys fighters near Pak border

[Cent4]

You are mixing 2 different issues.
First one, India is buying Trillions of dollors of weapon, because it has money to spend and it has its futuristic requirements. India is not only surrounded by Pakistan, there are many more borders it has to protect. And India has to incrase its fire power to counter other adversaries as well.
If India has to induct over 250 advanced jet, should they ask neighbours countries, that where should we deploy them ?? where you donot have any problems?
Or should India wait for these jets deployment on borders, till its old adversory is also equipped with something in same category that is deployed on border?

Second one for peace. Pls check the history who started wars, which happened after Independance, in past with neighbour country ? Who always started peace talk with neighbour country and what they got in response ??? As long as protest is concerned, Other countries can also try the same way when India is inducting something in its arsenal. If protest can add 1% in scrapping some contract or even delaying that contract, its a win win condition. But someone should be in condition to do that, thats a requirement for protest.

would you mind telling me more about this statement.
do you even know how much a trillion is.

 

[deckingraj]

Good to hear the Agni II is operational. Anyways you also keep dreaming because we might be going towards future projects of our missiles.

In fact I still believe we don't need these missiles to hit IAF bases. Our MRL's will do the job for us.

You are absolutely right..Even rockets launched by your soldiers from their shoulders can do the job....

 

[Indian-Devil]

would you mind telling me more about this statement.
do you even know how much a trillion is.

Putting Trillion was my bad, I meant billions. I replied to the post.

Originally Posted by Super Falcon
wel no f 16 has stationed near indian border even our new F 16 are going in jacomabad base well and than indian says that pakistan is a one who is creating probleums in region when india buys trilllions of dollars of weapons they dont have any probleum when pakistan buys even a bullet whole indian govt and media cries so it is a fact india never want to have a peace with pakistan and this peace is just a drama

 

[Areesh]

You are absolutely right..Even rockets launched by your soldiers from their shoulders can do the job....

Or might be a stone thrown by our soldiers will do the job.

Anyways that was a stupid joke.

 

[ROSH]

Hi,

Thanks for asking---if you had read pAF air chiefs article why pak purchased F 16 in the 80's would answer what I stated.

If india would have chosen to destroy pak's nuclear capabilities----pak had no way of stopping that to happen by intercepting the intruders---only for ground to air missiles---the only response was tit for tat.

Now india has reversed the scenario and given pak and easy target---.

In pak india scenario here what happens many a time----an indian plane will be coming from the opposite side---the pak technicians are looking at it at the radar----people are getting extremely nervous---then at the very last moment it make a 90 degree turn and go parallel to the border---paf would supposedly do the same as well---.

Now if the planes decide to fly right across the border over lahore---it is just a flick of an eye---coming from kasmir towards islamabad is hardly two minutes to strike.

In this time neither can my pilots nor can your pilots tighten up their laces---put on the helmets get to an air plane strap them up start the engines and take off---it all takes time---.

Now being so close to the border-----the paf does not need to sacrifice any of its hig end whatevr planes----they can use the F 7 pg's---the A 5 if still in existence and the Mirages---.

Specially planes like the su 30 who have very long legs---ie that they can fly for a long time---there is no reason for them to be a shoe throwing distance away from the opponent and same is true for the mig 29's---At 150 to 200 miles within their borders they can do the same job very well----keep their integrity and keep the enemy from attacking them---it is the critical time when the enemy aircraft can cross over your border to the target that is of utmost importance.

Pakistan has no choice---because it has no depth as compared to india---iaf has all the choices---regardless of what measures you take---any base within 30 to 50 miles will be devasted in the first strikes---.

Now pre-emtive and cold start can work both ways in this case---. Regardless of what the defences are like----the lack of reaction time is the biggest enemy over here.

Pakistan already a target---no ifs and buts about it----but with these bases----india has given pakistan a very juicy option---the have deployed the pride of their air force within a spitting distance and if something happens, they can't cry foul.

Bottomline---not the best choice---why make your top birds vulnerable to enemy strike.

Bhai - IAF has kept only few birds on forward bases - both against China and Paksitan.

As more and more Birds join the IAF, it will be progressively deployed at both forward and defence base...

......you are most welcome to come and stike out all the bases.....this will settle the question of which force is superior and planes / pilots better.

 

[deckingraj]

Hi,

Thanks for asking---if you had read pAF air chiefs article why pak purchased F 16 in the 80's would answer what I stated.

If india would have chosen to destroy pak's nuclear capabilities----pak had no way of stopping that to happen by intercepting the intruders---only for ground to air missiles---the only response was tit for tat.

Now india has reversed the scenario and given pak and easy target---.

In pak india scenario here what happens many a time----an indian plane will be coming from the opposite side---the pak technicians are looking at it at the radar----people are getting extremely nervous---then at the very last moment it make a 90 degree turn and go parallel to the border---paf would supposedly do the same as well---.

Now if the planes decide to fly right across the border over lahore---it is just a flick of an eye---coming from kasmir towards islamabad is hardly two minutes to strike.

In this time neither can my pilots nor can your pilots tighten up their laces---put on the helmets get to an air plane strap them up start the engines and take off---it all takes time---.

Now being so close to the border-----the paf does not need to sacrifice any of its hig end whatevr planes----they can use the F 7 pg's---the A 5 if still in existence and the Mirages---.

Specially planes like the su 30 who have very long legs---ie that they can fly for a long time---there is no reason for them to be a shoe throwing distance away from the opponent and same is true for the mig 29's---At 150 to 200 miles within their borders they can do the same job very well----keep their integrity and keep the enemy from attacking them---it is the critical time when the enemy aircraft can cross over your border to the target that is of utmost importance.

Pakistan has no choice---because it has no depth as compared to india---iaf has all the choices---regardless of what measures you take---any base within 30 to 50 miles will be devasted in the first strikes---.

Now pre-emtive and cold start can work both ways in this case---. Regardless of what the defences are like----the lack of reaction time is the biggest enemy over here.

Pakistan already a target---no ifs and buts about it----but with these bases----india has given pakistan a very juicy option---the have deployed the pride of their air force within a spitting distance and if something happens, they can't cry foul.

Bottomline---not the best choice---why make your top birds vulnerable to enemy strike.

However sir don't you think this so called vulnerability will add when IAF is launching lets say per-emtive strikes in PAK??? The same way these basis are only limited to SAM's till interceptors can be launched PAF basis will also be limited to same...Don't you think a MKI or Mig-29 flowing from 200 miles will give you more time to prepare vs someone at stone throw distance???....Secondly don't you think that we have these fighters in good numbers and if we put few close to border it increases our capabilities to cause maximum damage if we do manage to surprise our enemies??? So in essence all i need to ensure is that i should be able to survive any per-emptive strike by my adversary(in case they manage to surprise us) and then my response is going to be very swift and punitive...

Do you think that this move is in synch with cold war doctorine and is would IAF be able to cause lot of damage if they manage to surprise you?? or you think that this move is plane stupid???

 

[deckingraj]

Or might be a stone thrown by our soldiers will do the job.

Anyways that was a stupid joke.

I just wanted to join you...Was thinking who can come up with more stupid jokes...

 

[deckingraj]

Putting Trillion was my bad, I meant billions. I replied to the post.

Originally Posted by Super Falcon
wel no f 16 has stationed near indian border even our new F 16 are going in jacomabad base well and than indian says that pakistan is a one who is creating probleums in region when india buys trilllions of dollars of weapons they dont have any probleum when pakistan buys even a bullet whole indian govt and media cries so it is a fact india never want to have a peace with pakistan and this peace is just a drama

If you have not then edit your post...people will respond without knowing you have corrected yourself...

 

[notorious_eagle]

do your homework first ...

brahmos can not stopped by any known SAM in the world

Yes indeed, please accept my apologies for questioning the great Brahmos Supersonic Missile. It can never be shot down, afterall its being used by the Martian Indian Army and Air Force. Just like the Su30MKI cannot be shot down by any other plane, the Super Duper Brahmos can also not be shot down. How dare i question its capabilities and spread propaganda that it has a very high heat signature. Just the sort of reply i expected from a fanboy , so i will reply at your intellectual level.

 

[gurjot]

Yes indeed, please accept my apologies for questioning the great Brahmos Supersonic Missile. It can never be shot down, afterall its being used by the Martian Indian Army and Air Force. Just like the Su30MKI cannot be shot down by any other plane, the Super Duper Brahmos can also not be shot down. How dare i question its capabilities and spread propaganda that it has a very high heat signature. Just the sort of reply i expected from a fanboy , so i will reply at your intellectual level.

mogambo khush hua

 

[Indian-Devil]

If you have not then edit your post...people will respond without knowing you have corrected yourself...

Already updated. Thanks for reminding me Buddy.

 

[Super Falcon]

india hamesha doodh ka dhulla hota hai humara indian doston ke liya

 

[Areesh]

Yes indeed, please accept my apologies for questioning the great Brahmos Supersonic Missile. It can never be shot down, afterall its being used by the Martian Indian Army and Air Force. Just like the Su30MKI cannot be shot down by any other plane, the Super Duper Brahmos can also not be shot down. How dare i question its capabilities and spread propaganda that it has a very high heat signature. Just the sort of reply i expected from a fanboy , so i will reply at your intellectual level.

We can not even shoot down Mirage 2000, Mig 29 or even Mig 27 since they are used by Super IAF. How dare you think of countering these invincible weapons.

 

[gurjot]

We can not even shoot down Mirage 2000, Mig 29 or even Mig 27 since they are used by Super IAF. How dare you think of countering these invincible weapons.

read post 86

 

[gurjot]

india hamesha doodh ka dhulla hota hai humara indian doston ke liya

itni taariff mat karo yaar,dil karta hai aaj mar jaun,aaj doston ne paigaam bheja hai