I was, am, will remain Afghan: Asfand

[Hell hound]

It is fact , these politicians fool people time after time to stay in politics. But , this leader of ANP who's mother was active in politics few years ago, blame son for failure and giving bad name to her political party....now Asfand singing new Afghan song......what a shame.......and then complaint about freedom of speech. ANP rule province for 5 good years without any opposition. But achievement is zero.

all politicians are same one way or another.

 

[HAIDER]

After MQM, these scums are going to kiss dust.

Asfand, If you are Afghan, go f! do your politics in Afghanistan. Leave this country to people who own it and want to stand for it.

This guy failed at ballot box and see no future . Now he is testing something new.

 

[Hell hound]

Facts really? Ok let me address your so called facts
Fact #1 people like Achakzai Asfand who think Pakistan belong to Afghans and are on record, people like MQM who say Pakistan murdabaad are allies of none other than NS.
Fact #2 Do you know who supports militant groups like Lashkara Jangvi?? Go figure
Fact #3 This one i told you before that when IK wanted to talk with taliban so did every other party including PML N. Heck even Kayani did not wanted to start an operation and wanted dialogue. After APS attack all parties shifted their stance and so did IK.
Fact #4 You mentioned how venomous Zia policies were, Do you know who nourished under Zia? Right it wasnt Imran Khan but NS.
You bring IK into every thread and than you say these are not rants? Please!

achakzai and asfand are nobody now their politics is dead they will never have the influence imran have over pakistan's policies.hence imran should be more careful than these guys.these guys can go to hell no one will even ask where they went but same is not the case with imran he has following.
i know how control those groups and that why i am a vocal advocate of operation in punjab.let me be clear before i cause any confusion i know LEJ is dangerous and should be rooted out but it is not as dangerous as ttp is.
IK still have the soft corner for them and tries to take their side whenever he can and that my only problem with the guy.look at madrasa funding fiasco.
ZIA was islamist thank god our current government as much corrupt as they are it is still not islamist.
let's clear something here bro i will prefer a corrupt pakistan over islamists or taliban dominated pakistan any day.but it doesn't mean i support corruption.the day we get rid of TTP problem i will divert all my energies toward corruption problem.but for now we should all join hand to root TTP out while keep fighting against the corruption in background and switch it to the most powerful gear the day TTP is dead.
i am a politically neutral guy for me pakistan comes first i do and will keep criticising everyone who is danger to it.

 

[karakoram]

He is talking about ancesters afghans. We all pakhtoons are afghans but that does not mean we are afghanistan. We was we are we will be Pakistani pakhtoon insha Allah.

 

[Kabira]

Its about time Pakistanis stop giving attention to ANP/Azhakzai trolls, they know most Pakistanis are not aware of Afghan mean Pashtun so they take advantage of this to get reactions. I also wonder what other ethnic groups of Afghanistan think of this, no wonder they can't get along and there is no end in sight for civil war.

Ameer Sirajul Haq of JI also said he's Afghan but no one payed attention. Kasuri who's from punjab identified as Afghan on Indian tv channel recently when he was taking class of Ram Lal Bugti. So why give attention to Achakzai when he says he's Afghan?

 

[Super Falcon]

Show this basterd middle finger go to Afghanistan than if you are not Pakistani this is why I condemn Pak Constitution people like then who feel shame to call themselves Pakistani yet eat Pakistani people taxes and swallow garbage

 

[IceCold]

achakzai and asfand are nobody now their politics is dead they will never have the influence imran have over pakistan's policies.hence imran should be more careful than these guys.these guys can go to hell no one will even ask where they went but same is not the case with imran he has following.
i know how control those groups and that why i am a vocal advocate of operation in punjab.let me be clear before i cause any confusion i know LEJ is dangerous and should be rooted out but it is not as dangerous as ttp is.
IK still have the soft corner for them and tries to take their side whenever he can and that my only problem with the guy.look at madrasa funding fiasco.
ZIA was islamist thank god our current government as much corrupt as they are it is still not islamist.
let's clear something here bro i will prefer a corrupt pakistan over islamists or taliban dominated pakistan any day.but it doesn't mean i support corruption.the day we get rid of TTP problem i will divert all my energies toward corruption problem.but for now we should all join hand to root TTP out while keep fighting against the corruption in background and switch it to the most powerful gear the day TTP is dead.
i am a politically neutral guy for me pakistan comes first i do and will keep criticising everyone who is danger to it.

Again you are distorting facts here. I don't know what's your agenda here so I will be short. No Imran khan does not support TTP or the Taliban. This is baseless and absolute lie. Yes he favoured talks in the past but so did the government at the time with complete backing of army. Remember that committee led by Mulana burka and fazul Rahman that went to negotiate with Taliban? Implementation of Sharia law in Swat? Remember that statement of Shahbaz Sharif where be said Taliban and our point of view is the same? And he asked them to spare Punjab? You are selective in your criticism. Blaming IK while the government of N league is in bed with all Punjab based militants.
So don't distort facts to suit your flavor and blame IK when he was a nobody.

 

[mikkix]

You are presenting a hypothetical situation, but real situation is that Indian with Hindutwa and Akhand Bharat ideology is heading India, and majority of Hindu Indians share his mentality. Their eyes are not just on Punjab but in their minds the whole Pakistan is their territory.
Asfandyar and Mahmood are not just claiming Afghan ethnicity they were and are more than that.
Now look at Afghan population, when Karzai, Ghani and Dostam eating dollars from India and living with lavish lifestyles, where stand the poor Afghans with their miserable lives ?

Among Afghan refugees there might be one or two out of hundreds can NDS or RAW agents but how to scan them out ? Had President Ghani or VP Dostum thought about these refugees when they were building network of agents among these refugees ?

Your enemies are getting one, and you are encouraged to get divided and you people are not getting it.
They are not the enemies from outside who are more hazardous, but traitors from inside.
And that was always been problem with Muslims in whole history.





I would say rather combine under flag of Islam for which you created Pakistan. Pakistan is nothing without Islam.

Bro can you differentiate akhand bharat with ghazwa hind?
Ghazwa hind also talks about united india so all in all United India will be the future but the question is how it happen and who will lead it.
I think we will be wrong when we go against afghan because you ultimately helping Indians to make afghans closer to them. If we look at the history of afghans they had the habit to declare war on india so why so you helping indians by allowing them to push afghans to declare war on pakistan. It must be US strategy to check China with India and India with Pakistan and Now Pakistan with Afghans so whoever leading this strategy of anti-afghan movement in decision making are not loyal to Pakistan but more loyal to US and we knows we have many western agents in our establishment and 70 years of history is the proof.
So be cool and smart.
Afghan and pushtun are same, they have two names of one ethnicity, secondly Pakistan is a new name and Afghan is an old historical name compared to Pakistan similarly Sindh is very Old name so you need to understand geography and history.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

What is wrong in this Statment... Please tell me so I can give you answers... One thing is I don't understand that A pashtun can't even demand safety for his life..?? Iltaf hussain Humiliated Pakistan several time but no one cared... and is till Insulting but hey who cares ... Lets deport Achakzai and Asfandyar... Grow up.. is there anyone sensible in this form... ALLAMA iqbal said if there is no Peace in Afghanistan there will o peace in ASIA, wasn't he right..? look up some history before giving foolish statments... Kal ko kaho ge sara pashtun ko afghanistan wapas bhejdo. ! wake up

I'm a pashtun and i do agree with your statement tell your phir baba to go live in exile and bark from their a least he will say i have the right to bark outside

 

[haviZsultan]

he's proud Afghan and he's afghan and will remain afghan !! i think he's confusing afghan with ethnicity and Afghan can be anyone from Afghanistan i.e tajik,farsibans,uzbeks + Afghan pakhtuns but the question is why don't he go back to afghanistan and start politics there ?? get an afghanistan nationality and there you can remain proud afghan forever...ANP is on suicidal mode, forget winning the upcoming election you will not win any election in next 20 years....

Pakistan should revoke his citizenship plus add Mehmood Achakzai in the list...

I have repeated this constantly. Afghan in the ethnic sense and national sense are far different. Afghan nationals try to blackmail us with making them the same. Khushal Khan Khattak's sayings which were for a different time and age also contribute to the confusion.

The problem is Afghan national pashtuns are not willing to abandon Tajiks Uzbeks and Hazaras but hypocritically want our pashtuns to fight with other ethnic groups. Afghan in the national sense can include Tajiks and others. In the ethnic sense it means pashtun. It has to be decided in which sense he is Afghan.

Also though promotion of pashtun language and culture is all very good it should not be used to divide the nation like ANP and its brother organizations like MQM try to do.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

He probably want to be buried in Afghnaistan just like khan abdul ghaffar

Asfandyar said, “My origin is Afghan.
I was Afghan, I am still an Afghan and I will remain Afghan in future as well.”
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and i will keep getting humiliated by Afghans and will hugs them even if they sponsor terrorism and kill our children in school and universities

 

[!eon]

Bro can you differentiate akhand bharat with ghazwa hind?
Ghazwa hind also talks about united india so all in all United India will be the future but the question is how it happen and who will lead it.
I think we will be wrong when we go against afghan because you ultimately helping Indians to make afghans closer to them. If we look at the history of afghans they had the habit to declare war on india so why so you helping indians by allowing them to push afghans to declare war on pakistan. It must be US strategy to check China with India and India with Pakistan and Now Pakistan with Afghans so whoever leading this strategy of anti-afghan movement in decision making are not loyal to Pakistan but more loyal to US and we knows we have many western agents in our establishment and 70 years of history is the proof.
So be cool and smart.
Afghan and pushtun are same, they have two names of one ethnicity, secondly Pakistan is a new name and Afghan is an old historical name compared to Pakistan similarly Sindh is very Old name so you need to understand geography and history.

Afghan and Pashtun are not same. We used to write tribe name, then came invention of qaoum Afghan by bacha khan and people started writing Afghan instead of tribe names. It was all to collect vote bank in name of people speaking single language.
Similarly there is no qaoum as Sindhi, most of Sindh inhabitant are so called outsiders. How can for example a Syed be Sindhi nationalist ? and yet you find these examples. It's all to make people fool and use them for own purpose.
When I sit with any ANP leaders they are always abusing Punjab and Punjabis, and on the other side they are best allies of Nawaz shreef. So they can both loot well in their areas.

I least care about this qaoum type stuff. Sub continent and specially Pakistan is stuck one century back. World on our both sides, east and west has move a lot forward. And so does I want to move with the world where I live now.
Kindly you can continue discussing this stuff with other fellow members. I don't want to write any more about it here. Thanks.

 

[weqi]

Perhaps he is referring to his ancestral relationship with Afghans and not based on the country of Afghanistan...

what about Urdu Speakings in Karachi

 

[Yasir khan Afridi]

My forefather entered India with Sultan Mahmood Gaznavi, my tribe still owns land give by Sultan. Am I Afghan national today ? No I am not !
No one is sending Pushtuns back. Grow up now. Don't be fooled by Hundu bania and his paid agents. Learn lesson from poor Afghans and their sufferings. Just blindly following Congressi leaders like Asfand yar and Mehmood Achakzi, If you lost your country to bania, your conditions would be worse than Afghan refugees.

Dear Brother Have you checked you CNIC ..? we are Registered as Afghans in Nadra,Police station and Land revenue departments, Afghan is a race a ethnicity which no body loses.. the Russians in Ukraine aren't called Ukrainian but still called Russians so i request everybody on this Forum not to twist words and facts... A single pashtun can not speak for his rights because he is called afghan and traitor... .. And please study history how Afghanistan was destroyed.. Don't blame AChakzai and Asfandyar.... I hope you don't blame them for separation of Bangladesh too.. ..

 

[salarsikander]

So, No operation against him ? Banning his party and office. He said on record