‘I Saved My Country From Nuclear Blackmail’

[Wright]

From what I know scientists from the manhattan project were horrified at what they had created. And they did the real work, not copy others.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

i hope you understand that during "PEACE TIME" there is no army deployed in forward bases! its mostly Rangers for us and BSF for you.

heavy artillery,mechanised infantary and all are stored away. So this point of "without waiting,attacking" is IMPOSSIBLE!

Still there are assets close enough to the border which are capable enough to launch an attack.I hope you know that all your tanks wont be in Islamabad or Lahore,Karachi but some assets including tanks,artillery,infantry would be 300-500 kms from the border.

 

[ice_man]

Still there are assets close enough to the border which are capable enough to launch an attack.I hope you know that all your tanks wont be in Islamabad or Lahore,Karachi but some assets including tanks,artillery,infantry would be 300-500 kms from the border.

ummmmmmmmm never mind you didn't get it. 300 or 500 KMS is a long distance for a tank to travel plus break downs and all minimum time still will be more than 48 hours.

 

[jayron]

The world knows what nuclear deterrence is Mr.Khan. The question is why did you sell your nuclear secrets to unstable nations for paltry sums? were you not happy with the honors and love given by your people? why do you have to act like a cheap sh*t, there by singlehandedly making the world a much more dangerous place?

 

[IND151]

So what are you suggesting? Pakistan should not have acquired nukes after India started the nuclear arms race in South Asia. If the nukes are such a nuisance, India should have never acquired them in the first place. And please dont use the Chinese card, because in 1974 the Soviets were getting ready to blast China back into the stone age. Maybe your memory is vague but after India exploded her nuke in 1998, the statements of your politicians especially Advani is worth reading.



Nops, hes happily retired and enjoying a very comfortable life.

we developed nukes in order to not suffer nuclear blackmail

and we did right by not depending on USSR as they might have not helped us in case of nuclear blackmail

we wanted a tool which would dramatically reduce our vulnerability to nuclear blackmail so we developed nukes

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

I hope I live to see Pakistan and India living harmoniously in the same way as the once bitter enemies Germany and France live today.

Written By : Dr.A.Q.Khan

I liked the last sentence. Though a distant dream but achievable one.

 

[Matrixx]

mana k you guys have 4 tyms bigger army, still it all depends on the strategy and the intelligence of generals controlling the war

dehli is nearer to pakistan than it is for most of the indian territory

Entire Pakistan is much nearer from border than Delhi.....

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

ummmmmmmmm never mind you didn't get it. 300 or 500 KMS is a long distance for a tank to travel plus break downs and all minimum time still will be more than 48 hours.

I dont know about Pakistan but in India there is a significant amount of tanks around the borders and launching an assault will not take more than a few hours.(i am talking of Punjab border)

 

[Rocky25]

Are you trying to suggest that India will continue fighting through conventional means if we are on the verge of capturing Delhi. Also if China starts on the northern front.

Do you still believe that
1. Indian army will allow you to pass through them and you will invade Delhi?
2. China will join Pakistan's war against India?

 

[notorious_eagle]

That doesn 't translate into some agreement of Soviet Union providing India a nuclear umbrella.

Also, any such possible secret agreements if any would mean India to make more concession to Soviets on its foreign policy, for instance Indira Gandhi reluctant to join Soviet provided security plan aimed at China.

Even without an agreement the Soviets would have supported India, it was implied. The Soviets needed a reason to fight the Chinese, any threat against India would have been the perfect excuse.

Let us assume all the above is true and accurate.

Do you think Indian Govt would have known or capable of estimating Chinese nuclear arsenal in 1970s?

The Soviets and the Americans knew exactly how many and where the Chinese nukes were hidden. The Soviets had them painted right from the start. Do you honestly think the Soviets wouldn't share this information with the Indians.

Like i said earlier, it more of symbolic message to both USA and China, like the American believe.

The Nixon Administration and the Indian Nuclear Program, 1972-1974

By going nuclear, do you really think India protected herself from a nuclear strike against US? You are forgetting one thing, the Americans had nukes that numbered in the triple digits. India acquiring nukes would not have made any difference in a full on shooting war against US.

we developed nukes in order to not suffer nuclear blackmail

and we did right by not depending on USSR as they might have not helped us in case of nuclear blackmail

we wanted a tool which would dramatically reduce our vulnerability to nuclear blackmail so we developed nukes

Than stop bit**ing about Pakistan going nuclear. We also went nuclear to escape nuclear blackmail against India.

 

[The SC]

The truth is that you need nukes to save your country.That is the reason why whenever there is talk of an India-Pak war a Pakistani's reaction is "lets nuke them" coz you know your Army is not gonna last that long.

OTOH India doesnt need nukes to win a war.Our cold start doctrine was enough for you guys to get scared and a special meeting was arranged by the Corp Commanders in GHQ.

I think you are in a big disadvantage in a war anyways.You have such big plain land in Punjab and south of it where the IA Armoured corp can send waves and waves of tanks in and it would be very hard for you to stop them.

I believe nukes are essential for you country's survival.

Your waves and waves of Tanks will be easily destroyed by waves and waves of individual new RPGs and Antitank missiles without talking about the Pakistani tanks, so in any case, if you attack Pakistan you will loose bitterly.
And it will probably be the same if Pakistan attacks India first, so do not dream too much since you have the military means but you underestimate Pakistan, in all cases India will loose in a war against A muslim country, and do not forget that you are under watch from different parties, near you and far away too.

I was not talking about war but was saying that nukes are very important for your existence.You drifted the discussions towards what will happen in a war.

If nukes weren't vital to your existence, why were you the first to develop them? or are you trying to project your insecurities on others!

The world knows what nuclear deterrence is Mr.Khan. The question is why did you sell your nuclear secrets to unstable nations for paltry sums? were you not happy with the honors and love given by your people? why do you have to act like a cheap sh*t, there by singlehandedly making the world a much more dangerous place?

Pakistan didn't sell nuclear technologies to other Muslim nations it gave it away to all of them as a technological and scientific dissemination and sharing, which hypocritically you and the west call proliferation!

 

[wiseman]

When will World War III will being. Will we be alive to see. I don't want to see that day when nuke will be used against each other. Please don't hate each other. We are humans live is givens once to us no second change. Lets make the world more beautiful and peaceful.

 

[The SC]

we developed nukes in order to not suffer nuclear blackmail

and we did right by not depending on USSR as they might have not helped us in case of nuclear blackmail

we wanted a tool which would dramatically reduce our vulnerability to nuclear blackmail so we developed nukes

So you recognise that you are contradicting yourself by saying " we wanted a tool which would dramatically reduce our vulnerability to nuclear blackmail so we developed nukes". Pakistan did the exact same thing, so why criticise in first place.
I think one should not have discussions with Indians on this forum, they are showing much too often how backward they minds are underdeveloped!

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Your waves and waves of Tanks will be easily destroyed by waves and waves of individual new RPGs and Antitank missiles without talking about the Pakistani tanks, so in any case, if you attack Pakistan you will loose bitterly.
And it will probably be the same if Pakistan attacks India first, so do not dream too much since you have the military means but you underestimate Pakistan, in all cases India will loose in a war against A muslim country, and do not forget that you are under watch from different parties, near you and far away too.

Complete BS initially followed by replies to comments from two threads.(i didnt know you were a kid)Dont mix stuff here...reply to that comment in Muslim military might thread and regarding being followed..i dont give a damn about it to be honest.

If nukes weren't vital to your existence, why were you the first to develop them? or are you trying to project your insecurities on others!

If they were so important for our existence then we wont have a "no first use policy" and the first reaction of Indians on war would be "lets nuke them"

Have you ever seen any Indian say we will nuke China when the Chinese members threaten us of war....and this is the difference between us.

 

[The SC]

When will World War III will being. Will we be alive to see. I don't want to see that day when nuke will be used against each other. Please don't hate each other. We are humans live is givens once to us no second change. Lets make the world more beautiful and peaceful.

Such a beautiful dream. BUT:
Do not forget that humans are just thinking animals, and when the instincts take over reason naturally or deliberately as the Christian western powers and Indian savages(with big and bad mouths not on the terrain) have shown many times, than even the most reasonable humans will have to go back to stone age mentality.

Complete BS initially followed by replies to comments from two threads.(i didnt know you were a kid)Dont mix stuff here...reply to that comment in Muslim military might thread and regarding being followed..i dont give a damn about it to be honest.






If they were so important for our existence then we wont have a "no first use policy" and the first reaction of Indians on war would be "lets nuke them"

Have you ever seen any Indian say we will nuke China when the Chinese members threaten us of war....and this is the difference between us.




Complete BS initially followed by replies to comments from two threads.(i didnt know you were a kid)Dont mix stuff here...reply to that comment in Muslim military might thread and regarding being followed..i dont give a damn about it to be honest.




If they were so important for our existence then we wont have a "no first use policy" and the first reaction of Indians on war would be "lets nuke them"

Have you ever seen any Indian say we will nuke China when the Chinese members threaten us of war....and this is the difference between us.

Trying to project yourself again reread your comments and see how backward thinking and apologistic you are, this has nothing to do with another thread, read your childish comments on this thread, the discussion in other threads continues there.
You indians seem to be very scared of china, and try to vent it on Pakistan, do not make that mistake, or some natural disaster will hit you so badly that you will never recover.

From what I know scientists from the manhattan project were horrified at what they had created. And they did the real work, not copy others.

They have copied the Germans, you can look it up on the net or in specialized books.