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You sound like a rabid dog who is in self defense mode. Nobody is talking about the congress party or any party.. I am talking about leaders. BJP has its leader in Modi who I admire too, but the rest of them I don't know and suspect they are like the rest of the congress too...

stop being a low information voter and asks questions of all parties. Specifics and debates too...

think country first , not party first. you are far to immature and emotional
about this. chill kiddo

I think you have trouble reading or apprehending English. Where on earth my comments had the words...Congress/BJP/Modi....you are the rabid dog here....trying to compare Rahul with JFK. Only a rabid animal with distorted mental abilities would do that. Chapter closed...get yourself treated mate...you sound delusional.
 
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No offence mate, but that's a typical Indian view I would say, pointing only at the bad points, but when you look at India from the outside, you will see economical growth that put a lot of people out of poverty in the last years. The simple fact how big and wealthy Indias middle class is today, is a proof on how successful the reforms and improvements of the recent years were. Foreign economists still rate India with a better future than China, in the global financial crisis years from 2008 onwards, India still remains with a credible growth and much better than most developed countries. Our foreign politics is highly regarded and capable of balancing Indias interests even between enemies and the value of India as a political power in Asia or the UN was never higher. Indian defence capabilities and modernisation plans (the reason we are in defence forums) are going slow, but progressing well, which also has to do with the good economical and political performance...

So it's by far not as bad as many people in India sees it, especially not when you take the last 10 year as the base!
Personally, I think things went in the wrong directions after the last elections, while the first 5 years were crucial for India and lead. So we shouldn't see it either in black or in white, but always should see it from both sides and then look at where the problems are and if another political party (NOT a single person!) could do it better in future.

Btw, an agent of the vatican at a defence forum? :-)

You and politics?:)....:cheers:
 
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Congress calls meeting to fix responsibility of losses on anyone but Rahul Gandhi | Faking News

Soon after Congress lost the assembly elections in four states, the party organized an emergency meeting to analyze the defeat. The meeting took at Sonia Gandhi’s residence. This Faking News reporter could record the proceedings using a camera hidden in Kapil Sibal’s eyebrows. Following is the highlights of the discussion:

Rajiv Shukla (almost shouting): On your feet, Noor-e-Hindustan, Brand-Ambassador-e-Dimple Shri Rahul Gandhi ji is coming. There is no Modi wave, Rahul Gandhi ji got a shave!

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Rahul Gandhi asking Sonia Gandhi if he should rename Congress as Aam Aadmi’s Big Party

(Rahul Gandhi enters with Sonia Gandhi)

Rahul Gandhi: Thanks Shukla ji. We need to learn from AAP, and I can see that you have learnt poetry from Kumar Vishvas. I’m impressed. Sibal ji, you should also learn poetry from him.

Kapil Sibal: I already have a poem for you Rahul baba – “Maybe no one turns up in rallies but your speeches are cute, maybe Congress has crashed in elections but you are parachute!”

(everyone claps)

Rahul Gandhi: Good show! We need to learn more from AAP. But first let’s find out why we lost the elections. Clearly, I’m not responsible, right?

Rajiv Shukla: Yes, Rahul ji, you are not responsible. If you want, I can take full responsibility and give a public statement.

Sonia Gandhi: No Shuks, nobody will give any importance to your comment. And anyway, we are here for analysis of defeat, not to check loyalty. Let’s first talk about Rajasthan. Ashok Gehlot has shocked me by claiming central policies were responsible. He has refused to take blame, and Rahul is not responsible. Now someone from center has to take blame.

Kapil Sibal: Madam, I think our tough stand on IT laws backfired. Gehlot ji had a lot of non-resident Rajasthani supporters in Turkey, which was quite visible on his Facebook page. But I have heard that they were quite upset about our stand on cyber regulation and they didn’t show up during voting.

Sonia Gandhi: So you take responsibility for Rajasthan?

Kapil Sibal: Yes ma’am. “I am responsible. Gehlot is gullible. Results horrible. Twinkle twinkle.”

Rahul Gandhi: wow… good poem!

Sonia Gandhi: Ok, what about Madhya Pradesh? Digvijay ji, you disappointed us.

Digvijay Singh: Madam ji, this time I bet, RSS is behind it.

Rahul Gandhi: But uncle, RSS is not part of Congress, we need someone from the party to accept the responsibility.

Digvijay Singh: This Jyotiraditya Scindia should take responsibility.

Jyotiraditya Scindia: Abey chup!

Sonia Gandhi: Please, maintain decorum. We have to respect people, except Narendra Modi.

Jyotiraditya Scindia: Sorry, but I’m not going to take responsibility. Kamal Nath ji or Digvijay Singh ji should take blame.

Digvijay Singh: I can’t take blame. I only blame RSS.

Jyotiraditya Scindia: (mumbles something again)

Digvijay Singh: Let’s blame Electronic Voting Machines.

Sonia Gandhi: I think this is not going anywhere.

Kapil Sibal: I can take blame for this too if these guys are not willing to. It will mean zero loss to me.

Sonia Gandhi: Great. Zero loss to our rescue again. Now Chhatisgarh.

Ajit Jogi: Madam, can we blame it on our leaders who died in Naxal attack? We anyway blame leaders after they die, like Narsimha Rao ji.
Sonia Gandhi: Jogi ji, are you drunk?

Ajit Jogi: Sorry madam, I take responsibility.

Sonia Gandhi: That was quick. Now let’s move to Delhi. What happened Sheila ji?

Sheila Dixit: Rahul ji has already said it was AAP factor and he will learn from AAP.

Sonia Gandhi: Yes, but we need someone to take the blame. Are you taking the responsibility?

Sheila Dixit: I don’t know. I always maintained that I was not responsible for Delhi’s law and order as it was under center’s control, or not responsible for roads as MCD was under BJP control, or responsible for corruption in CWG. Now how do I take responsibility for this?
Sonia Gandhi: But someone have to.

Digvijay Singh: I don’t know why are we not blaming Narendra Modi!

Sonia Gandhi: What has happened to you Digvijay ji? If we blame Narendra Modi, it means we are accepting there is a Modi wave!

Rahul Gandhi: But that’s alright mamma. We live in Delhi, which is far far away from seashore and we shouldn’t fear any wave.


Sonia Gandhi: Diggi! Look what you have done to Rahul baba’s thinking!

(Digvijay Singh is taken aback and keeps silent)

Sonia Gandhi: Silence will not work! Not a time to be silent. You have to take the blame.

Manmohan Singh: Theek hai. (on cue at the mention of “silence”)

(Everyone claps as the final blame is also taken and Rahul Gandhi distributes plastic brooms to everyone) :D

---Very nice article..Thanks a lots..I am impressed...
 
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You sound like a rabid dog who is in self defense mode. Nobody is talking about the congress party or any party.. I am talking about leaders. BJP has its leader in Modi who I admire too, but the rest of them I don't know and suspect they are like the rest of the congress too...

stop being a low information voter and asks questions of all parties. Specifics and debates too...

think country first , not party first. you are far to immature and emotional
about this. chill kiddo
Rahul is here because of dynastic politics. He lacks leadership qualities and seem to be like this image of being a 'reluctant politician'.
I prefer professional politician, who joined politics as their career, love their job, and want to do it well.
Why is he congress vice president? There are plenty of congress leaders better than him, but born to wrong family
 
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I think you have trouble reading or apprehending English. Where on earth my comments had the words...Congress/BJP/Modi....you are the rabid dog here....trying to compare Rahul with JFK. Only a rabid animal with distorted mental abilities would do that. Chapter closed...get yourself treated mate...you sound delusional.

Yes, I well get myself treated to understand your gibberish . so far research shows there is no cure
 
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No offence mate, but that's a typical Indian view I would say, pointing only at the bad points, but when you look at India from the outside, you will see economical growth that put a lot of people out of poverty in the last years. The simple fact how big and wealthy Indias middle class is today, is a proof on how successful the reforms and improvements of the recent years were. Foreign economists still rate India with a better future than China, in the global financial crisis years from 2008 onwards, India still remains with a credible growth and much better than most de<snip>
the first 5 years were crucial for India and lead. So we shouldn't see it either in black or in white, but always should see it from both sides and then look at where the problems are and if another political party (NOT a single person!) could do it better in future.

Btw, an agent of the vatican at a defence forum? :-)

@sancho, my mate, I am not disagreeing with you regarding the financial situation of India, but we are only reaping the benefit of what MMS did as a finance minister and later NDA government.. The issue I have with this government is that they did not capitalise the good momentum we had. Instead dragged us into mismanagement and corruption.. Please note the amount of corruption the done in this 10 years.. Apart from the nuclear deal, can you point out some significant steps towards the growth of India? Just burdening our economy with freebies and appeasement.. Yes, from outside everything seems fine, but you have no idea about the internal tension in this country.
 
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very rare to see you comment on politics.... mogambo khush hua!!!

Yeah, I try to stay out of it, because I simply have way too little knowledge about Indian politics and when I don't have at least a basic clue I prefer to just read, or ask questions to get a better idea.

In this case I just joint in, because I like people that state their opinion and defend them, even if it's against the general point of view and that's what JayAtl did imo. That doesn't mean I share his views on Rahul and my comments are meant to be general on politics in democracies, which should be the same for Indian politics, or German politics.

The issue I have with this government is that they did not capitalise the good momentum we had. Instead dragged us into mismanagement and corruption.. Please note the amount of corruption the done in this 10 years..

Isn't that a general statement as well? The 2G scam for example is obviously a reason to be against the NDA, but what has it to do with Indias growth or the lack of FDI into India? Aren't the global economic and financial crisis effecting far more? But too less people are talking about that. The direct relation of the global problems and the still good performance of India will be ignored and the focus is only on the bad things. Scams & corruption => bad economy and high inflations. The reasons are simply not fitting!

I fully share your view on the corruption problem, but I think that is not an NDA problem, but a general problem in India (for example, not only politicians take bribes, but many officiers in the forces too)! That's why I don't think scams wouldn't happen anymore only because BJP and Modi gets to power and why I think that the Anna movement and partially the AAP as an alternative party are good for India (although it needs to be seen how sustainable they will be, or if they are just a show of protest against the current political establishments), but there is no single truth about good or bad, everything has 2 sides and both of them should be looked at.

Apart from the nuclear deal, can you point out some significant steps towards the growth of India?

I don't think the nuclear deal was an economical improvement, since the reform that MMS came up with as you correctly pointed out years before made the real difference, just like his policies in the first 5 years as PM (imo at least). The nuclear deal put India politically on a whole new level in the world. It opened so many possibilities and the world mainly started to see India as more than just a developing country. Don't foregt the huge support we got in the elections in the UN,how foreign policy is getting us more and more credits, how even our rational reaction after 26/11 instead of simply going for the next war, gained us huge credibility in the world, because people suddenly started to see that India is not only a developing country with nuclear bombs, but a reasonable and responsible power. In India many criticized the government for not showing military strenght, but internationally that reaction get us far more, because everyone saw it as a terrorist attack and therefor supported India, while they we just would have confirmed their views on India if we had gone for war again.
The foreign policy of India imo is highly underestimated in India itself!

Yes, from outside everything seems fine, but you have no idea about the internal tension in this country.

Not at all mate, you have no idea how often I try to make Germans understand that India is more and better than just being a poor developing country, with a large military, nuclear bombs and in the last years with a lot of crazy rapiest, because that is the news about India that will come up in the German or European media. But just as I don't understand all internal problems that created the inflation (which is the actual problem I think and not the growth rate), or caused Maoism, I think people in India focus only on internal problems, not seeing the good things that India has gained on a national / global level in the last around 10 years too. That's why I say to not see it from a single point of view only, but to see both or all sides and then get to a conclusion.
 
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