How to Overtake the Indian Armour ?

[DARKY]

SH-1,A-100,KRL-122 .... ring any bells?

None of them is Precision Guided.

CH-3
Burraq

and dozens of types of UAVs.

You were talking of UCAVs.... None of them are one either.....

220-240 arjuns and lets say 1000 T-90s + obsolete vjayatas+t-55s n nght blind t-72 320 T-84.. 600 AK.... 600+ AZ and 1300+ AK-II+Type 85II.. n other mbts.

Vjayantas are retired from the services and T-55s are phased/replaced out by Arjuns
T-72s are No more night blind http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/67983-indian-army-t-72-tanks-now-have-night-vision.html
Whn did Pakistan Army Induct 1300+ AK-II+Type 85II

Considering indias obsolete weapons?

Yet Somehow Type-59, Al Zarar..etc.. are not Obsolete....

Read:
Pakistan Produces Indigenous 125 Millimetre Tank Gun For Al-Khalid Tank ~ ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS

We also produce Pantars n A-100s.

Thats a tank gun.... name the feild Artillery gun you were telling about being made by Pakistan...

Thts PAFs headache... u also forgot Mirage ROSE,J-7Ps.

No but what relevance do they have... or I should say how effective they are without modern electronics and BVR capabilities ??

With KAMRA producing 15+ jets per year n CATIC production .. i dnt think so... we already have 2 active sqds of JF-17.. another 50 will arrive this year.... same goes for FC-20... 52-54 are already on order to be delivered by 2014... more will follow.. infact we may produce them inhouse.

The Year is about to end... where are the initial deliveries ??
Provide the source for your information which says 52-54 are already on order to be delivered by 2014.

They would arrive before ur MRCA thts for sure... n to counter iafs 5th gen fighter we sure have options like J-20,JXX or even F-35..

We would have the Death Stars and Aladdin's lamp by then...

Do u thnk after blk-II JF-17 wont evolve further?

source of your information... my thinking or yours don't matter...

Yeah right.

Indeed....

 

[FNFAL]

^^^ Kids have a habit of putting fingers in their ears and shouting lalalalala when faced with an argument they cant win. Its really pathetic to see some supposed grown up ppl indulging in such acts.

The very argument that pakistan has to resort to a nuke for a conventional warfare...be it tactical, strapped to suicide dogs or missiles...very much outlines the state of affairs for pakistani conventional warfare ability/defence

btw that alladin lamp was awweeesome

 

[Abhishek_]

alladin's lamp

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

None of them is Precision Guided.

SH-1

maximum range of fire is 53 km which was achieved with a rocket assisted V-LAP projectile using charge zone 10. In addition this artillery system is able to use indigenous precision guided munitions,

SH1 155-mm Self-Propelled Howitzer | Military-Today.com


Latest Variant of A-100:
Pakistan to Produce A100 MLRS - Page 4

GPRS guided missiles.


KRL-122 : Developed by KRL ... n french helped install GPRS systems on it...not very sure what the upgraded... it has 40km range... probably guidence?
Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - POF and French Company signs MOU on rocket technology

You were talking of UCAVs.... None of them are one either.....

Do u suffer from autism?

CH-3 armed UCAV:


China Developing Armed/Recon UAVs - Defense News


Burraq UCAV:

NESCOM Burraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Pakistan reported developing armed UAV - Air Force News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Air Force Times


Pakistan

Vjayantas are retired from the services and T-55s are phased/replaced out by Arjuns
T-72s are No more night blind http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/67983-indian-army-t-72-tanks-now-have-night-vision.html

India has 5000+ mbt right?

220 arjuns in service-220 on order?.... 400 t-90 in service as of now? tht makes a total of 620 modern tanks in IA fleet???? as of right now rest r ????????OBSOLETE!

Whn did Pakistan Army Induct 1300+ AK-II+Type 85II

Thts the plan... just like indian plan to get 1ooo t-90s...!

600 AK-I,320 T-84,AZs,T-85II.

Yet Somehow Type-59, Al Zarar..etc.. are not Obsolete....

Thts why i never counted T-59s.... Al Zarar is a new tank based on the chasis of T-59...Much like turkish sabra!

Read abt it.

Thats a tank gun.... name the feild Artillery gun you were telling about being made by Pakistan...

Only if had read the article?


Here let me spoon feed :

The official said that after delivering 50 tank guns, the HMC plans to produce artillery guns for the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan produces its first tank gun

No but what relevance do they have... or I should say how effective they are without modern electronics and BVR capabilities ??

If had read abt them... they r BVR capable:

The Year is about to end... where are the initial deliveries ??

Here is some news for u...


China to provide Pakistan 50 Thunder jets, talks for stealth on


Work on a stealthy version is already in progress!

Provide the source for your information which says 52-54 are already on order to be delivered by 2014.

Do i have to spoon feed u all the time? contract for 36 FC-20s was signed in 2005 by musharaf when he visited the facility in china..
J-10/FC-20 MRCA - Page 269

We would have the Death Stars and Aladdin's lamp by then...

I hope u get mighty LCA in servic by then,

source of your information... my thinking or yours don't matter


Indeed....

Google it.

 

[Secur]

Tell me one thing !
Pakistan can afford to use its all defense hardware against India or atleast 80 % ... But can India ?
We do not have 2 enemies so can/will bring all our troops ( not literally lol ) to Eastern border ... Surely you wont be moving every single aircraft or tank into Pakistan ... Some must be kept to deter China right or otherwise ?

 

[Abhishek_]

^of-course since we far out-match you in numbers, we do not need to bring a high percentage of available equipment to the western theater. If past full scale wars are any indication, we've consistently captured more territory than PA

 

[Secur]

^of-course since we far out-match you in numbers, we do not need to bring a high percentage of available equipment to the western theater. If past full scale wars are any indication, we've consistently captured more territory than PA

If you are talking about Cold start then you are mistaken ... If a full scale war , then other factors come into play ... Nowhere , it means a complete victory for India unless one is blinded by patriotism

 

[Abhishek_]

If you are talking about Cold start then you are mistaken ... If a full scale war , then other factors come into play ... Nowhere , it means a complete victory for India unless one is blinded by patriotism

not speaking of CS specifically, the quantity gap exists regardless of doctrine.
We've seen plenty of factors at play in previous full-scale wars.
if by complete victory you mean annilating pakistan, that is not the objective neither our doctrine calls for that.
IA objectives remain grabbing a major chunk of land and maintain an upper hand when international pressure comes around for a ceasefire.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

And this small navy has the best performane against you dwarka and in 71 you lost a warship and in almost all your serviceman were killed

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Your Aircraft carrier is the biggest lame duck

lol we had no submarines back in 71 one of your subs managed to sink one of our ships where as we destroyed Karachi and read up on operation trident and operation python we literally sunk more than 1/3 of that navy in the war your navy does not even have a destroyer Lmfao and we have a aircraft carrier which adds to our capabilities

 

[Zarvan]

Why don't you seek some chinese knowledge how to grow at rate of 11%, That is more important for Pakistan than making Nasr and chinese Weapons (Drone, Nuke etc)

Drones are useful against weak nation. You can use chinese drones against Dark age Talibans, Not India..

Sir you should be the last person to say because all Indian weapons are developed with the help of Russia so China and Pakistan can also work together to build up their military and counter any threats

 

[Zarvan]

A digged in PA will completely destroy IA invasion that is certain and both sides know it. The trick here and this is what Indians are trying to do with their cold start doctrine is how to catch the PA off guard. Catching a force off guard is very difficult now s days more difficult than let's say as in early as the 90s. India trying to deploy large number of troops even makes it harder.

However the trick here for Pakistan is to mobilize faster than IA to gain victory. This could include disruptive missile shots as well as a "great wall" type of pre ordained armor and infantry ready to deply in large numbers in even shorter notice.

This all makes India fighting INSIDE Pakistan territory and actually gaining victory so hard it will be close to impossible. Of cours the battles in the air also will play a major role. Pakistan air force has shown it is superior to Indian air force before but from the looks of it India is doing it's best to shift this shortcoming.

And finally war should never be seeked by any side. War that will gain you nothing will only destroy you as a nation. Such a war will destroy Indian GDP growth rate since investors only like to work in stable countries also the same can go for pakistan.

Indian Army of people think every army except their army is sleeping and not preparing themselves for future wars but they will be shocked if they try to attack Pakistan the response they will get will be enormous and even if China doesn't engage but still if it deploys large number of troops near Indian border when India Attacks Pakistan it will change India policy of attack and will also care about China

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lol we had no submarines back in 71 one of your subs managed to sink one of our ships where as we destroyed Karachi and read up on operation trident and operation python we literally sunk more than 1/3 of that navy in the war your navy does not even have a destroyer Lmfao and we have a aircraft carrier which adds to our capabilities

The Aircraft carrier is the most easy target to hit and if it gets hit really badly by our cruise and other missiles Indian Navy will loose half of its battle

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Indian Army of people think every army except their army is sleeping and not preparing themselves for future wars but they will be shocked if they try to attack Pakistan the response they will get will be enormous and even if China doesn't engage but still if it deploys large number of troops near Indian border when India Attacks Pakistan it will change India policy of attack and will also care about China

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The Aircraft carrier is the most easy target to hit and if it gets hit really badly by our cruise and other missiles Indian Navy will loose half of its battle

whats with you Pakistanis always bringing China do you need them to fight your wars for you? and China ain't gonna do sht to us especially in support for you guys where were they in 65 71 and in Kargil?

and they can deploy what ever they want we will rush 8 mountain divisions to border from Tezpur the second they do so.

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Indian Army of people think every army except their army is sleeping and not preparing themselves for future wars but they will be shocked if they try to attack Pakistan the response they will get will be enormous and even if China doesn't engage but still if it deploys large number of troops near Indian border when India Attacks Pakistan it will change India policy of attack and will also care about China

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The Aircraft carrier is the most easy target to hit and if it gets hit really badly by our cruise and other missiles Indian Navy will loose half of its battle

the Barak missile can intercept cruise missiles and it is on our aircraft carrier besides our air craft carrier will just be in Arabian sea we can still cause maximum damage as MiG-29K are low RCS and have sufficient range to go deep inside enemy territory

 

[Zarvan]

whats with you Pakistanis always bringing China do you need them to fight your wars for you? and China ain't gonna do sht to us especially in support for you guys where were they in 65 71 and in Kargil?

and they can deploy what ever they want we will rush 8 mountain divisions to border from Tezpur the second they do so.

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the Barak missile can intercept cruise missiles and it is on our aircraft carrier besides our air craft carrier will just be in Arabian sea we can still cause maximum damage as MiG-29K are low RCS and have sufficient range to go deep inside enemy territory

Yes but your navy couldn't detect one single ship with ten people on board and they caused havoc in Mumbai but the can detect missiles okay we will see in battle field

 

[Quick MIK]

Yes but your navy couldn't detect one single ship with ten people on board and they caused havoc in Mumbai but the can detect missiles okay we will see in battle field

You guys cant even detect three helicopters within your airspace for more than a hour.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Yes but your navy couldn't detect one single ship with ten people on board and they caused havoc in Mumbai but the can detect missiles okay we will see in battle field

navy doesn't protect EEZ thats up to coast guard by your navy cant even protect its military aircraft from Taliban we won't even have to lay a finger if your entire military bases get f'd up by terrorists