How Much is Iran’s Economy Recovering?

[FaujHistorian]

Well, Iranians have a very bad reputation in this forum, which is consisted of trolling, bad mouthing, having low knowledge, ... You can ask about it from almost every non-Iranian member and you would hear the same thing. So, we are not used to hear honest polite words from Iranian members. I hope you change this picture.

Agha jaan

some may be. not all.

 

[rmi5]

Agha jaan

some may be. not all.

Mostly they are as you know. Except for a few ones who do less trolling, most of them, 90%+, are all the same as what I described. When I get alerted by some Iranian member quotes, or mentions, I personally assume that person has insulted or said some very bizarre words.

 

[scythian500]

Well, Rouhani is not much wise either. They have increased taxes in a ridiculous fashion(about 45-50% in some cases) which will cause the clear parts of Iranian economy, about 30% of it, to harm severely, and gets more incompetent compared to the world. They have also manipulated the exchange rate to keep it low to control inflation rate, but it will destroy Iranian producers. It's very simple. Also, these energy subsides are not cut yet, which has caused the government to spend all of its oil money on subsides, and paying for social security and retired. can this trend last long? of course not, and another bubble would burst in Iranian economy. I think these are simple facts.

wow you are one well-informed Azerbaijani.. do you spend on your time readying and thinking about Iran? Azerbaijan would be as advanced as TABRIZ scientifically and technologically if you only let Iran to its citizens and focus on your Azerbaijan...

Ok, back to your economic observation. Wow...so much wow... you know all the solutions. I can secure you a well paid job and Iranian citizenship if you only give me your name and address.

Many common (taxi-talker) Iranians are complaining about why are n,t qualified right persons in right positions in Iran. As far as I know, many Iranians consider themselves as an ABSOLUTE expert on EVERYTHING... from politics...economics...science and how to run a country... IF you ask them why you claim solutions while you,re not qualified to do so, they will defiantly respond like " Even a first grade student or Kid knows this!!!"

One advice to all who think they are misplaced and they should be in place of all thousands of Phd think thanks how to do their job. Every person in society has designed to do something. Every person and position is valuable in its place. But we gotta learn that we are only allowed to GIVE ABSOLUTE ANSWERS to Subjects that we are qualified to do so. Other than this and At MOST, all we are allowed to say is that I GUESS ... To MY EYES...

I guess it is not only the problem of Iranians as I witnessed this in other nations too...But let us be professionals... The huge stuff and problems like economic problems is not an easy task to bring up solutions for... Specially in Iran that we don,t deal with economic rules only... It has tens of variables need to be taken into account to be able find the most doable and beneficial solutions... Considering the current obstacles we are witnessing in Iranian position in world, It is semi-miracle to keep it in the way it is now , let aside huge +%8 growth rates...
I remember a team of respected economists came to Iran , invited by Iranian strategic studies (tashkhis maslahat) center. There were two noble winners among them and others were UN and IMF economic think tanks... They had recommendations for Iranians to be able overcome economic problems... Then they got invited to study all the situation aspects of Iranian economy based on their request. And then after a month they asked to give them their recommendations... I had a friend that gave me a quote from those guys... telling Iranians , we understand now, why all Presidents comes to office with black beards and hair...but go out with absolute WHITE HAIR... imagine they only were told unclassified resources..let aside secret problems only top rank authorities are aware of!

My nice brother, things is not as easy as you think... it is pretty complex... It is even much more complex becoz Iran is not going through a NORMAL situation... I have to confess.. some offices in Iran did not do a good job to my eyes... but Mr. rafsanjani, Khatami and Rouhani office had & has all it takes to get Iran out of trouble.. we have the software and working ideas..we only need time to be bale to materialize those software...

Despite all these hardship, I,m pretty optimistic myself toward Iranian future economy... Iranian success has many wings...one of them is sole economic growth... You need to be in a SHAPE that you can impose your interests on others...this is exactly what all super powers do.. you need a strong strategic army to back it up... you need a good political weight to be able to move your desired plans including GDP ahead... Iranian case study is pretty unique in world stage... Iran has started to get ready for a role in which is much bigger than IRAN..not geographically though...

I know that Iran initiated much much bigger than its abilities STRATEGIC PLAN for its future... I know that they realized how weak they are comparing to their wished TARGETS couple of decades ago.. They realized the weakness and this is exactly why, Iranian leaders and strategists started to fix it.. I can say, at least half the way is Done by now... Iran is now much more ready to achieve what she wants than 2 years ago...

maybe these make no sense to some or all members here.. I don,t expect you to understand it as I don,t understand it fully either! but I recently realized that Iranian situation is a unique, pretty daring and game changer situation.. and one thing Im, sure is that IF ALL THESE plans work as it is planned to work..then we must wait for a huge New World Order in let,s say 2050

 

[rmi5]

@scythian500 Your post is long, and I have not enough time to read all of it on today, and I don't want to just write something hastily. so, I will get back to read and reply your quote on tomorrow.

 

[scythian500]

Well, Iranians have a very bad reputation in this forum, which is consisted of trolling, bad mouthing, having low knowledge, ... You can ask about it from almost every non-Iranian member and you would hear the same thing. So, we are not used to hear honest polite words from Iranian members. I hope you change this picture.

I apologize if any human been and not just Iranian members gave you this impression. but I can assure you there is THE VERY SAME impression from other nationalities here... everybody thinks HE IS BETTER... MORE INFORMATIVE... MORE CIVILIZED... the reality is that... although some nations has some COMMON culture to react in a way that is ODD to other cultures, it is all INDIVIDUAL based observations... only a FOOL can common a whole nation of MILLIONS with only tens of observations...Only a Fool do that... What is the solution to my eyes? EVERY single member here... Pro-Iranian or Anti-Iranian..they should show other members how to be a nice, civilized and better person... Greatness doesn,t come from lowering others.. politeness doesn,t come from condemning other rudeness while they do exactly the same..civilization comes from mature, open eyed , FAIR observations... I personally, despite all the mainstream mindset toward Israealis.... I admire them a lot..when it is admirable... I admire Turks when it is admirable..and Pakistani, indians...africans...American...Arabs...any nation...

Society shape up from SMALLER entities as individuals... which I am one of them... If I don,t start by myself then it is fool to expect others to do the right thing... Defence DOT PK is a military site...but it is not a BATTLE FIELD... it is weapon industry or sales and its related stuff but not CHALLENGE FIELD to challenge each other..that you,re bad and I,m good... you are uncivilized..and I invented civilization... If we are (including myself and before everyone) is mature enough to discuss military stuff based on SOURCES or just using I HAVE HEARD or I GUESSes..then it will be fruitful community that all members will learn some out of it... The battel field is out of here in real world... If there is any wars with you involved then you are more than welcome to show what you are made of... other than this we are just human beens here with no WARs going on...

I love you all and let,s be real muslims if we are muslim and be real christians, jews, hindu, buddist if we claim we are..

 

[scythian500]

@scythian500 Your post is long, and I have not enough time to read all of it on today, and I don't want to just write something hastily. so, I will get back to read and reply your quote on tomorrow.

you,re very welcome my friend.. yes, it is long.. as I hate to leave any aspects untold..but I try to make it shorter..thanks for the advice... cheers brother

 

[scythian500]

Mostly they are as you know. Except for a few ones who do less trolling, most of them, 90%+, are all the same as what I described. When I get alerted by some Iranian member quotes, or mentions, I personally assume that person has insulted or said some very bizarre words.

have you reviewed your own previous words my brother? I wish it is as good as I expect from you..my Iranian citizen friend

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Oil price is @ $80 a barrel at the moment. Iraq is already broke as they forecasted their oil sell @ $110 a barrel. their treasury is empty. If Iran was projected @ $100 a barrel with a deficit, and now it's $80 what are they going to do when it actually hits $40 a barrel which is projected in few years as KSA increases it's output to hurt russian oil export. Very tough times ahead for iran.

 

[Homajon]

Oil price is @ $80 a barrel at the moment. Iraq is already broke as they forecasted their oil sell @ $110 a barrel. their treasury is empty. If Iran was projected @ $100 a barrel with a deficit, and now it's $80 what are they going to do when it actually hits $40 a barrel which is projected in few years as KSA increases it's output to hurt russian oil export. Very tough times ahead for iran.

Will Falling Oil Prices Force Iran’s Hand in the Nuclear Talks?

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Will Falling Oil Prices Force Iran’s Hand in the Nuclear Talks?

This article shows and hopes for the best case scenario and it's written by an official iranian affiliate. if the Oil war is done on purpose to hurt iranian economy there is no escape especially when iran depends on oil export for 90% of it's budget. That has been Iran problem for a long time they find it hard to increase it's output due to infrastructure. watch out for sabotage activities in iranian installations in the next few years to hurt the output even more carried out by the limitless growing armed groups inside iran these days ordered by the same people who are carrying the big plan.like i said This is planned already. By the way Iran has decreased it's budget to Hizbillah in lebanon by 25% the cash flow is getting tighter already

 

[Serpentine]

This article shows and hopes for the best case scenario and it's written by an official iranian affiliate. if the Oil war is done on purpose to hurt iranian economy there is no escape especially when iran depends on oil export for 90% of it's budget. That has been Iran problem for a long time they find it hard to increase it's output due to infrastructure. watch out for sabotage activities in iranian installations in the next few years to hurt the output even more carried out by the limitless growing armed groups inside iran these days ordered by the same people who are carrying the big plan.like i said This is planned already. By the way Iran has decreased it's budget to Hizbillah in lebanon by 25% the cash flow is getting tighter already

90% of budget? You certainly need to study more about this topic.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

90% of budget? You certainly need to study more about this topic.

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"As of 2010, oil income accounts for 80% of Iran's foreign currency revenues and 60% of the nation's overall budget"
In 2013 it was close to 90%.
we are talking about hard currency here, this is what is hurting the iranian economy not the domestic revenue of selling chickens using Iranian Rials.

 

[haviZsultan]

Agha Jaan

Please do not confuse oil income as part of GDP.

Instead check out the yearly budget income vs. expenses.

Then you will see that Iranian exports income has 80% coming from petroleum.

80%.

See this? 80%

So tell me how much that contributes towards $50 to 60 billion per year.


Thank you and Shukriya.

Interesting though is it not. Debunks the myth that oil income earning countries are extremely rich and powerful. But Iran which has an economy in decline because of the foolish west who want to punish Iranian people for the governments approach to having nuclear weapons does have oil but still isn't the richest of the states. Then there is Venezuela too with one of the largest oil supplies and it too isn't extremely rich. Infact Venezuela in the crime capital of the world.