How long does this Ummah last : Study

[YeBeWarned]

INVISIBLE BARRIER

People often think that physical barrier to be a fence or Mountain range, but I wont be surprised if its a barrier of sight meaning they will be right in front of us but we will be unable to recognize them, Quran often mention Barrier as physical and metaphorical entity .

 

[Gorgin Khan]

People often think that physical barrier to be a fence or Mountain range, but I wont be surprised if its a barrier of sight meaning they will be right in front of us but we will be unable to recognize them, Quran often mention Barrier as physical and metaphorical entity .

Its Clearly evident from Quran and its not metaphorical entity.

18:94 They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (people) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightiest erect a barrier between us and them?"

18:95 He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them: He said: "That wherein my Lord hath established me is better (than your tribute). Do but help me with strength (of men), I will set between you and them a bank."

18:96 "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain sides, he said, "Blow (with your bellows)" then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."

 

[YeBeWarned]

Its Clearly evident from Quran and its not metaphorical entity.

18:94 They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (people) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightiest erect a barrier between us and them?"

18:95 He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them: He said: "That wherein my Lord hath established me is better (than your tribute). Do but help me with strength (of men), I will set between you and them a bank."

18:96 "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain sides, he said, "Blow (with your bellows)" then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."

Again , As i said Quran often use the word barrier in different forms, Yes Zul Qarnin has created a wall kind of barrier but if that fence or wall exists we might be able to locate it , but we haven't now have we ? Allah can do whatever he wants, what if he transform that barrier from a physical one to a more of metaphorical one ? What if that was a barrier of sight, and also a barrier like wall or mountain ? It can be a possibility .

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Again , As i said Quran often use the word barrier in different forms, Yes Zul Qarnin has created a wall kind of barrier but if that fence or wall exists we might be able to locate it , but we haven't now have we ? Allah can do whatever he wants, what if he transform that barrier from a physical one to a more of metaphorical one ? What if that was a barrier of sight, and also a barrier like wall or mountain ? It can be a possibility .

There is a castle(Dariali Castle) and it's adjoining walls that guarded Darial Gorge... today not much of it is left ....
But that is not the only one... there are others caucasian gates. Others, such as Caspian gates on Derbent pass.

 

[Verve]

It is the hadith which @OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ and @seven0seven had posted.

The Prophet Muhammad SAWS coming was the first major sign of Qiyamat. Yajuju Majuj were released then.

Since then, the whole world has changed, Muslims have lost so many lives and several regions due to extermination campaigns like in Spain, Balkans, Russia, Greece, Philipines, and India.

The pressure is ramping up year by year. And now biblical plagues have befallen mankind, aling with drought and increased natural disasters.

Yajuj and Majuj will invade after the war with Jews and then Christians is over - lead by Hazrat Esa AS. Then Hazrat Esa and some companions going to the mountains. Then the prayer and the worm killing all Y n M. What about those Hadith?

Saying that we have been under the attack of Yajuj and Majuj for centuries already would mean taking Hadith as figure of speech per se instead of being literal and explicit.

What about The Beast? Are we going to assume it to be anything other than what's explicitly described?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yajuj and Majuj will invade after the war with Jews and then Christians is over - lead by Hazrat Esa AS. Then Hazrat Esa and some companions going to the mountains. Then the prayer and the worm killing all Y n M. What about those Hadith?

Saying that we have been under the attack of Yajuj and Majuj for centuries already would mean taking Hadith as figure of speech per se instead of being literal and explicit.

What about The Beast? Are we going to assume it to be anything other than what's explicitly described?

Read the Sahih Hadith of Tamim Ad Dari which I posted in the beginning. It mentions clearly the Dabbat ul Ard (Beast of the Earth) which is on an island with a chained up Al Masih Ad Dajjal, both are physical creatures with supernatural powers.

Yajuj Majuj have not yet come out into the open, some of the signs of their coming have already occurred like resettlement of the Jews into a banned city (Jerusalem,) Quran mentions in Surah Al Anbiya that this is when Yajuj Majuj will come loose.

Another is the reference to the Sea of Tabariyya/Tiberias/Galilee which will vanish as Yajuj Majuj pass it and use it. Today it is below the black line and vanishing fast as Israel uses it for agriculture.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yajuj and Majuj will invade after the war with Jews and then Christians is over - lead by Hazrat Esa AS. Then Hazrat Esa and some companions going to the mountains. Then the prayer and the worm killing all Y n M. What about those Hadith?

Saying that we have been under the attack of Yajuj and Majuj for centuries already would mean taking Hadith as figure of speech per se instead of being literal and explicit.

What about The Beast? Are we going to assume it to be anything other than what's explicitly described?

They will and have been coming in waves ... Arabs are and have been under constant attack from north ... those who are Gog and Magog have since then ruled the world ... remember end of times started from Prophet Mohammad(Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). Their last group will say lake tiberius had water ... it doesn't happen over night ... but it is happening. There last group will fight Isa(A.S.) upon which their final death will occur. Till that point no one will be able to defeat them outright. Remember western Europe was first casualty since then natives of north America have paid the price ... the world has been subdued and colonized... what I'm saying are not things most want to put to pen but no one can deny facts either... the disease on the nape of neck is yet to come ... remember these are a race ... they seek to be purest... remember Habsburgs procreated themselves out of existence with genetic diseases just because of intermarriage and racial purity... they ruled at one point most of western Europe. Again, the beast is not something we can decipher but when it does happen there would be no denying it.

 

[Verve]

some of the signs of their coming have already occurred like resettlement of the Jews into a banned city (Jerusalem,) Quran mentions in Surah Al Anbiya that this is when Yajuj Majuj will come loose.

Please quote the specific Ayat.

I could not find any such mention in the Surah.

21:96 and 21:97 do not mention Jerusalem or banned city.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Please quote the specific Ayat.

I could not find any such mention in the Surah.

21:96 and 21:97 do not mention Jerusalem or banned city.

My brother, read the preceding verse.

وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ - 21:95

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُم مِّن كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنسِلُونَ - 21:96

And there is prohibition upon [the people of] a city which We have destroyed that they will [ever] return

Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend

 

[Gorgin Khan]

Again , As i said Quran often use the word barrier in different forms, Yes Zul Qarnin has created a wall kind of barrier but if that fence or wall exists we might be able to locate it , but we haven't now have we ? Allah can do whatever he wants, what if he transform that barrier from a physical one to a more of metaphorical one ? What if that was a barrier of sight, and also a barrier like wall or mountain ? It can be a possibility .

Kindly read those ayahs again , There is no metaphor used 18:96 "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain sides, he said, "Blow (with your bellows)" then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."

There is no question regarding state of wall or how it was built , the questions and metaphors are there because Nobody has identified the wall yet. And Allah knows it better!

 

[mikkix]

As per sheikh imran Hussain. Gog are Anglo Saxons where as Magogs could be Chinese.
If chinese and Americans will be united for one world order then what we do? If that one Supreme ruler will have a head quarter in Israel then? If it will happen like this, can we wage a war against that Supreme leader? And if we will do like this and destroy that one Supreme government headquartered in Israel then imagine what Chinese and Americans will do against us.

 

[Verve]

My brother, read the preceding verse.

وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ - 21:95

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُم مِّن كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنسِلُونَ - 21:96

And there is prohibition upon [the people of] a city which We have destroyed that they will [ever] return

Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend

21:95 refers to cities and nations destroyed, never to return. 21:94 and 21:95 read together.

21:96 and 21:97 read together.

Reading 21:95 and 21:96 together as you have could give the meaning that destroyed nations will return when Gog and Magog descend.

Jerusalem has never been wiped out completely like other cities mentioned in Quran. Bani Israel as a nation have never been completely wiped out either.

Linking this to Jerusalem is not right, in my opinion. I also don't think Gog and Magog are some lost Jewish tribe as the dam was built long before Musa AS.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As per sheikh imran Hussain. Gog are Anglo Saxons where as Magogs could be Chinese.
If chinese and Americans will be united for one world order then what we do? If that one Supreme ruler will have a head quarter in Israel then? If it will happen like this, can we wage a war against that Supreme leader? And if we will do like this and destroy that one Supreme government headquartered in Israel then imagine what Chinese and Americans will do against us.

He is a Russian and Indian agent now. Back in the 90s, he was under Dr. Israr Ahmad and hence heavily influenced by Allama Iqbal.

Today, he is an agent of Kuffar is actively promoting war against and destruction of both Turkey and Pakistan.

He identified Russia as the Romans, saying we have to make an alliance with them, but neglected the second part of the hadith which said the Romans will betray the Muslims.

I don't believe the Russians are the Romans mentioned in that Hadith because Russia has never been associated with them. No matter how they made their rulers Czars and copied French culture, the reality is different. They are not Europeans.

 

[mikkix]

He is a Russian and Indian agent now. Back in the 90s, he was under Dr. Israr Ahmad and hence heavily influenced by Allama Iqbal.

Today, he is an agent of Kuffar is actively promoting war against and destruction of both Turkey and Pakistan.

He identified Russia as the Romans, saying we have to make an alliance with them, but neglected the second part of the hadith which said the Romans will betray the Muslims.

I don't believe the Russians are the Romans mentioned in that Hadith because Russia has never been associated with them. No matter how they made their rulers Czars and copied French culture, the reality is different. They are not Europeans.

Labeling raw agent doesn't help i guess. If you read about byzantine empire who was the original Roman empire then you will find out that the roman empire was actually following eastern orthodox religion and church and currently Moscow is the headquarter of it. So i guess he is right. Russia and turkey will make an alliance against Europe which will be the whole Europe except Britain which is not the part of the Europe now thanks to Trump America and illuminatis. And Russo/turk alliance will won and then Russia will decide to take over their old headquarter Constantinople which is now called Istanbul previously islambol. What pakistan needs to do is to have a good relationship with afghans Persians and turks because hadeeth is clearly directing that Muslim of hind will get help from them. Now we have to see where Persians turks and afghans put their support.

 

[StormBreaker]

People often think that physical barrier to be a fence or Mountain range, but I wont be surprised if its a barrier of sight meaning they will be right in front of us but we will be unable to recognize them, Quran often mention Barrier as physical and metaphorical entity .

Indeed,

Why can’t we see Allah or the Angels or the Crossings from on sky to another ?

Sight barriers.

That is definitely what that ayah refers to from Surah Ambiya