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I don't see us trying. We are sitting where we are.



Nope unlike you I have read on this issue



Nope they aren't



As per Indian army in 1992 it was Indian territory :lol:

1) It is a fact.

2) Your are now sitting, can't do anything else, having tried to capture Indian posts umpteen number of times and been beaten back every time.

3) Yes, they have been.

4) No it wasn't, point 5353 was delineated in 72 Shimla agreement as right on the LOC and not Indian territory.
Pls provide proof, that point 5353 was under Indian control in till 92. Please do not post, rambling of Ram Kumar Anand as your proof.
 
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1) It is a fact.

To save face. Yes it is for you.

2) Your are now sitting, can't do anything else, having tried to capture Indian posts umpteen number of times and been beaten back every time.

Still I don't see us trying

3) Yes, they have been.

Nope. They aren't

4) No it wasn't, point 5353 was delineated in 72 Shimla agreement as right on the LOC and not Indian territory.

As per Indian army it was Indian territory

Pls provide proof, that point 5353 was under Indian control in till 92. Please do not post, rambling of Ram Kumar Anand as your proof.

I have posted what I have to. The point is clear. You can change goal posts. ;)
 
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Oh that's not the question oh retarded one. The question is that why did india keep trying to take back ajk through 1948 and kept failing? Also, you do realize that your own army chief told your shastri that her can't guarantee him a victory in 1965. Basically a diplomatic way of telling you pm that he is loosing...wanna go ask him for proof? Oh and what exactly were you planning on achieving in siachin if not sneaking into ajk? kulfis aye? ;)

Just like how you tried to take rest 3/5 th of Kashmir back in 48 and ever since and have always failed.

What did you win in 65, you lost more territory , more men and more material.

You still haven't been able to point out, a single piece of land, which you won against in your war against India, which was Indian to begin with.
 
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by the way, india was also victorious against China in 1962, all that land China took was just useless and india actually WANTED China to take so that's also india's "victory"! :lol:

Yeah India even tried to abandon defenses of Arunachal Pardesh just because it was useless. But now since India still owns it China failed to capture it and hence Indian victory

Goal post changing bro. :)
 
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Because unlike Pakistan, India has lots to loose other than blood. Don't confuse restrain with cowardice.

It is not just India, both countries stand to lose more than just blood. And that is why Pakistan continues to say that war is not an option and should not be thrust upon Pakistan. Our Military capability is entirely defensive and we officially threaten no country of the world.



There is not a single war or conflict where Pakistan made any decisive victory. Stalemates and losses. Now, tell me how does "Pakistan quite clearly points to an Indian lack of capabilities"? What delusion are you going to feed me now?

Let us not speak of conflicts because Pakistan Military has held its own, and then some, in many conflicts and battles. That the outcome of wars has not entirely been in our favour, politically, is a different matter altogether. And it has more to do with our internal Military/Political divide rather than anything India holds over us.
 
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1) It is a fact.

2) Your are now sitting, can't do anything else, having tried to capture Indian posts umpteen number of times and been beaten back every time.

3) Yes, they have been.

4) No it wasn't, point 5353 was delineated in 72 Shimla agreement as right on the LOC and not Indian territory.
Pls provide proof, that point 5353 was under Indian control in till 92. Please do not post, rambling of Ram Kumar Anand as your proof.
Oye gadhay, we can simply pull out and shell siachin into a gigantic avalanche! You think we can't? The only reason we don't is because of the civilian casualties it will cause. Aur yeh lay parhlay...oh and your own mp says we still occupy 6 epaks, point 5353 is just one of them! :lol:

https://m.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/30josy.htm



Josy Joseph in New Delhi

Pakistan is occupying at least six strategically located Indian peaks in the Kargil sector along the Line of Control, claimed Rajya Sabha member and senior criminal advocate R K Anand.

Basing his arguments on several documents and "authoritative sources", Anand said on Wednesday that these are strategic peaks from where Pakistani forces have a commanding view of the Srinagar-Leh highway, Drass helipad and several other military installations.

There was no immediate reaction from the army headquarters.

Anand named the Pakistan occupied Indian peaks as: Point 5353 (Map reference: 490644), Point Aftab-I (499642), Point Saddle Ridge (525638), Point Bunker Ridge (548639), Shangruti and Dhalunag.

"Point 5353 is very strategic. In 1992-93, the then corps commander (of India) decided to make a shift pocket on this point and sent personnel there by helicopter. The officers posted there successfully cut off the entire supply to the Pakistani pockets along the LoC for nearly two months," he said. The capture was in retaliation of Pakistani attacks on several Indian posts including the national highway from Srinagar to Leh.

He said the Indian Army then claimed that point 5353 is "within our LoC and that we have every right to patrol the area." He said this point offers a 40-kilometre view of the Pakistan side and from the Indian side an attack could be launched on Drass and the Drass-Kargil road.

However, in January-February of 1999, Pakistan troops occupied Point 5353, along with several other strategic posts. These intrusions led to last year's Kargil war.

He said Indian troops had tried to capture Point 5353 on May 18, 1999 when army operations were beginning in Operation Vijay in Kargil last year. But it failed.


Parh liya?! Ab bol bay bhangee, is your own news source...how much are you indians gonna lie and keep getting caught with your saarreea down man! :lol:
 
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To save face. Yes it is for you.



Still I don't see us trying



Nope. They aren't



As per Indian army it was Indian territory



I have posted what I have to. The point is clear. You can change goal posts. ;)

1) The fact is India has majority of Jammu and Kashmir including the capital, and all you can do about it is whine.

2) You have tried and failed so many times in Sianchen, that you have given up trying, that is fox and grapes syndrome.

3) Present proof.

Oye gadhay, we can simply pull out and shell siachin into a gigantic avalanche! You think we can't? The only reason we don't is because of the civilian casualties it will cause. Aur yeh lay parhlay...oh and your own mp says we still occupy 6 epaks, point 5353 is just one of them! :lol:

https://m.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/30josy.htm


Josy Joseph in New Delhi

Pakistan is occupying at least six strategically located Indian peaks in the Kargil sector along the Line of Control, claimed Rajya Sabha member and senior criminal advocate R K Anand.

Basing his arguments on several documents and "authoritative sources", Anand said on Wednesday that these are strategic peaks from where Pakistani forces have a commanding view of the Srinagar-Leh highway, Drass helipad and several other military installations.

There was no immediate reaction from the army headquarters.

Anand named the Pakistan occupied Indian peaks as: Point 5353 (Map reference: 490644), Point Aftab-I (499642), Point Saddle Ridge (525638), Point Bunker Ridge (548639), Shangruti and Dhalunag.

"Point 5353 is very strategic. In 1992-93, the then corps commander (of India) decided to make a shift pocket on this point and sent personnel there by helicopter. The officers posted there successfully cut off the entire supply to the Pakistani pockets along the LoC for nearly two months," he said. The capture was in retaliation of Pakistani attacks on several Indian posts including the national highway from Srinagar to Leh.

He said the Indian Army then claimed that point 5353 is "within our LoC and that we have every right to patrol the area." He said this point offers a 40-kilometre view of the Pakistan side and from the Indian side an attack could be launched on Drass and the Drass-Kargil road.

However, in January-February of 1999, Pakistan troops occupied Point 5353, along with several other strategic posts. These intrusions led to last year's Kargil war.

He said Indian troops had tried to capture Point 5353 on May 18, 1999 when army operations were beginning in Operation Vijay in Kargil last year. But it failed.


Parh liya?! Ab bol bay bhangee, is your own news source...how much are you indians gonna lie and keep getting caught with your saarreea down man! :lol:
Oye gadhay, we can simply pull out and shell siachin into a gigantic avalanche! You think we can't? The only reason we don't is because of the civilian casualties it will cause. Aur yeh lay parhlay...oh and your own mp says we still occupy 6 epaks, point 5353 is just one of them! :lol:

https://m.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/30josy.htm


Josy Joseph in New Delhi

Pakistan is occupying at least six strategically located Indian peaks in the Kargil sector along the Line of Control, claimed Rajya Sabha member and senior criminal advocate R K Anand.

Basing his arguments on several documents and "authoritative sources", Anand said on Wednesday that these are strategic peaks from where Pakistani forces have a commanding view of the Srinagar-Leh highway, Drass helipad and several other military installations.

There was no immediate reaction from the army headquarters.

Anand named the Pakistan occupied Indian peaks as: Point 5353 (Map reference: 490644), Point Aftab-I (499642), Point Saddle Ridge (525638), Point Bunker Ridge (548639), Shangruti and Dhalunag.

"Point 5353 is very strategic. In 1992-93, the then corps commander (of India) decided to make a shift pocket on this point and sent personnel there by helicopter. The officers posted there successfully cut off the entire supply to the Pakistani pockets along the LoC for nearly two months," he said. The capture was in retaliation of Pakistani attacks on several Indian posts including the national highway from Srinagar to Leh.

He said the Indian Army then claimed that point 5353 is "within our LoC and that we have every right to patrol the area." He said this point offers a 40-kilometre view of the Pakistan side and from the Indian side an attack could be launched on Drass and the Drass-Kargil road.

However, in January-February of 1999, Pakistan troops occupied Point 5353, along with several other strategic posts. These intrusions led to last year's Kargil war.

He said Indian troops had tried to capture Point 5353 on May 18, 1999 when army operations were beginning in Operation Vijay in Kargil last year. But it failed.


Parh liya?! Ab bol bay bhangee, is your own news source...how much are you indians gonna lie and keep getting caught with your saarreea down man! :lol:

As I had asked previously, please do not try to present ramblings of RK Anand as proof, which were politically motivated, and were refuted categorically.

Similar to what your prime minister had said, about Pakistan loosing 4000 troops in Kargil. Or do you believe that is also true?
 
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Just like how you tried to take rest 3/5 th of Kashmir back in 48 and ever since and have always failed.

What did you win in 65, you lost more territory , more men and more material.

You still haven't been able to point out, a single piece of land, which you won against in your war against India, which was Indian to begin with.
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Hey your barfing again! your own military officials who were in the war have written that towards the end of the war, india was on the verge of losing amristar and had no forces to stop Pakistani Army and hurs in rajasthan! Oh lemme guess, #FakeNews, riiiiiiiiight?!
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Hey your barfing again! your own military officials who were in the war have written that towards the end of the war, india was on the verge of losing amristar and had no forces to stop Pakistani Army and hurs in rajasthan! Oh lemme guess, #FakeNews, riiiiiiiiight?!
:lol:

Which military official..show.
 
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1) The fact is India has majority of Jammu and Kashmir including the capital, and all you can do about it is whine.

2) You have tried and failed so many times in Sianchen, that you have given up trying, that is fox and grapes syndrome.

3) Present proof.




As I had asked previously, please do not try to present ramblings of RK Anand as proof, which were politically motivated, and were refuted categorically.

Similar to what your prime minister had said, about Pakistan loosing 4000 troops in Kargil. Or do you believe that is also true?
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mister anand too much for your nonexistent bravado to swallow, aye retarded one? Well take it up with your anand! He's one of your own home grown niggas, if he exposed your lies because of some political motives then that's your problem, not ours! :lol:

Which military official..show.
Yeh lay bay chumpoo aeh bhi parh lay! :omghaha:
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Ih lemme guess, capt amrinder is ALSO politically dedicated, riiiiiiiiight? :laugh:

Oh baychara @Osiris tu aur kitna zaleel o ruswa hoga...yar @Areesh and @Mav3rick yar is spunk monkey pay to tars aaraha hay yaaar!
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mister anand too much for your nonexistent bravado to swallow, aye retarded one? Well take it up with your anand! He's one of your own home grown niggas, if he exposed your lies because of some political motives then that's your problem, not ours! :lol:

If we are gonna believe politically motivated statements.

Then you also must believe Pakistan lost 4000 soldiers in Kargil, since it was prime minister saying. And as you said " he exposed your lies for political motives.

So you agree Pakistan lost 4000 soldiers in Kargil?

https://www.rediff.com/news/2003/aug/16pak.htm
 
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If we are gonna believe politically motivated statements.

Then you also must believe Pakistan lost 4000 soldiers in Kargil, since it was prime minister saying. And as you said " he exposed your lies for political motives.

So you agree Pakistan lost 4000 soldiers in Kargil?

https://www.rediff.com/news/2003/aug/16pak.htm
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Dude? Are you bargaining for a way out man! :lol: you wanted proofs of your defeats and I rubbed them in your face! if you don't accept them then we don't really give a rat's tail about it, your in a very precarious position, hardly able to negotiate anything better...stupid defeated little retard! :lol:
 
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mister anand too much for your nonexistent bravado to swallow, aye retarded one? Well take it up with your anand! He's one of your own home grown niggas, if he exposed your lies because of some political motives then that's your problem, not ours! :lol:


Yeh lay bay chumpoo aeh bhi parh lay! :omghaha:
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Ih lemme guess, capt amrinder is ALSO politically dedicated, riiiiiiiiight? :laugh:

Oh baychara @Osiris tu aur kitna zaleel o ruswa hoga...yar @Areesh and @Mav3rick yar is spunk monkey pay to tars aaraha hay yaaar!
:lol:

Just like how Pakistan almost Lahore and almost won Kashmir. There are many a slip between cup and lip.


Compared what could have happen to actually what did happen. Pakistan ended up loosing more land and more men material , in the war it started.

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Dude? Are you bargaining for a way out man! :lol: you wanted proofs of your defeats and I rubbed them in your face! if you don't accept them then we don't really give a rat's tail about it, your in a very precarious position, hardly able to negotiate anything better...stupid defeated little retard! :lol:

What you presented as proof was horse $hit, I presented a much more compelling proof from prime minister, none the less on the magnitude of your defeat in Kargil.
 
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Just like how Pakistan almost Lahore and almost won Kashmir. There are many a slip between cup and lip.


Compared what could have happen to actually what did happen. Pakistan ended up loosing more land and more men material , in the war it started.
Aray burnol laga burnol! :lol: you entering Lahore in the beginning of the war only to better thrown completely out and almost loosing amristar does not equate to us almost loosing Lahore while it does equate to you almost loosing amristar! Chal jakay khoob sara burnol laga burnol. Teri theel thaak jal rahi hay teray aram aye ga...burnol laga, made in China wala burnol! :woot:

Just like how Pakistan almost Lahore and almost won Kashmir. There are many a slip between cup and lip.


Compared what could have happen to actually what did happen. Pakistan ended up loosing more land and more men material , in the war it started.



What you presented as proof was horse $hit, I presented a much more compelling proof from prime minister, none the less on the magnitude of your defeat in Kargil.
Uh, you mean that convict rat whose rotting in prison? your talking him seriously? :lol: that mp anand isn't in prison at least! :lol: burnol laga lhoob sara burnol laga apnay pichvaarr pay...made in China vala burnol! :rofl:
 
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