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How did Mohammed bin Salman change Saudi Arabia’s image?

That is not the goddess of liberty, that is Jeanne D'arc..an ordinary French woman who led the French revolution// and for topless, well I don't think that any man in those circumstances could be excited by a topless woman in the midst of bullets flying all over the place..(and BTW there were no bras at that time!:lol::lol:) That is the irony..

As far as what MBS is doing..well, yes, it can and should be considered a continuation of reforms and advancements of his predecessors.. they have all taken Saudi Arabia to new heights corresponding to the period of time they governed the country.. one can easily follow the time frame of Saudi advancements..from a desert land to one of the most modern countries in the world..and now MBS wants nothing less than High tech, Industrialisation, Transfer of technologies both in the civilian and defence fields, Nuclear and solar energy, economic growth, diversification of resources and social reforms as open as possible in the limits of what Islam allows..

Delacroix depicted Liberty as both an allegorical goddess-figure and a robust woman of the people.
 
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There is one more uncle killing monster who defiled the social norms of society.
 
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1- There is no boot liking of either by MBS, in fact he stated in and interview with some of the most influential media in the US, that Saudi- Usraeli relations are conditioned by the establishment of a Palestinian state along the Usraeli one.. this alone goes against any boot-liking thoughts..And as far as the relationship with the US is concerned, it is a very old one based on mutual interests, nothing more and nothing less..

It is indeed boot licking along with the drama of being protector of Palestinian rights.
In the last 70 years Saudi Arabia didn't even fire a single bullet towards Israel.

And now MBS is giving interviews as if Israel feels threatened by the mighty MBS and give the Palestinians their land.

Yes off course, the interview of the mighty MBS are enough while practically MBS allowing India to conduct flights to Israel and making deals and hugging Israel under the table.


2- Well, again that is an interpretation based on your perception of someone.. too bad.. but the Yemeni war was not started by KSA, it was started by the Houthis.. and the whole UN went against it..not only KSA who happens to share borders with Yemen and was directly threatened..

Off course Saudia thinks Yemen is their background only Saudi supported puppet government has the right to rule Yemen. Thus instead of solving the problem, mighty Saudia simply want to crush the Yemeni people and their rights.

Earlier it was Saleh who was Saudi puppet, then Hadi, and now perhaps Hadi also got the divorce or very close to it.

- Qatar was bad for the Arab world in general, get you facts right.. most Arab countries have cut diplomatic relations with Qatar, where is MBS here !?, or you just want to vent some steam caused by jealousy and some inferiority complex..? because all your statements tend toward these feeling you have.. and the truth is they stem only from your mind.. just get rid of these negative emotions ..you need to learn more on subjects to be capable of posting with some substance, facts and truth..

Yes yes, Qatar is evil.
Go and kill more of Qatar. Well done. Instead of solving the problems with discussion, might MBS showed how big fool he is with big big ego.

Anyway this foolishness of MBS is good for the region. Thank you.

- As far as Turkey is concerned.. the Arabs are starting to treat is as a country that gets involved in their own affairs.. just like Iran.. So relations might not be very rosy after the Arab league meeting this month.. because Turkey is on their agenda..

Again well done.
The only true friends remain of MBS are now Israel and US.
 
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The yemen war is MBS and MBS alone.
Oil policies trying to kill of shale oil are also thought to be him.

Now his strong arm tactics against his cousins and consolidating power have weakened the foundations of their rule since it now rests with whatever allies he can gather; which arent many.

As for the kingdom, the sort of forced smiles and fear you see on the faces of certain people talking from there shows the actual reality of him as an uncompromising dictator.

Is there progress? Yes, very much and I could not be happier regarding him taking on the extremist elements in the Kingdom, but it is those same elements that did Saadat in... and the same could befall him.
 
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For years, Saudi Arabia witnessed fierce and intensified campaigns by three different parties. All of them aimed to present a bad image about the kingdom to the world. The first party consisted of extremist figures inside Saudi Arabia and whose popularity increased in recent years due to social media platforms. The second is Qatar’s media outlets while the third is western and American dailies and networks with leftist leanings. Observers will notice that all these parties have been confused in the past phase and their influence has declined – not because they suddenly fell in love with Riyadh but because the recent decisions against extremism, the social and religious reforms as well as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s US tour and candid interviews with the most famous media outlets confused them and shook their stances.

Before this phase, a huge part of these parties’ success was because of the Saudis themselves as they generously supplied them with the cards they needed for the game and with ready-made justifications due to laws and customs that restrain women’s activities and to strange measures which prohibited arts and to preachers who prohibited Valentine’s Day and commissions that confiscated red flowers. All this provided them with ready-to-use live ammunition and helped their rhetoric gain more credibility and supporters from different inclinations, human rights activists, liberals, leftist and right-wing, and eventually they developed a deeply negative image about the kingdom.

The first party, represented by Saudi extremists in Saudi Arabia, used to negatively promote the kingdom via the extremist ideas which they marketed, the pubic takfiri fatwas (religious edicts) they issued and their continuous and organized social media presence. Everyone who wears the shemagh (the traditional scarf which men in the Gulf wear on the head) and echoes the most hideous statements against Jews and Christians left a bad reputation behind. These people had such a loud voice to the point that people outside the kingdom thought all the Saudis were like that; intolerant, hostile to women and outdated.

Saudi Arabia overcame a difficult obstacle and became a power capable of changing history by solidifying the culture of tolerance and moderation in the entire region and getting rid of the disease of extremism which obstructed Muslims for centuries.
Mamdouh AlMuhaini
These extremists sought to strengthen this wrong image during the past few decades to create a huge gap between Saudi Arabia and the civilized world – a gap which is difficult to narrow. They sought to drag the country to the spheres of backward and dark forces. This is why bin Laden chose 15 Saudis to hijack airplanes and carry out suicide attacks on September 11, 2001, in order to burn bridges between Saudi Arabia and the West and create bitter and mutual enmity. There was an evil plan well-schemed by extremists for years. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman destroyed it within few months by restraining these extremists until their voices disappeared from the general sphere which they controlled, until recently, by criminalizing the hate speech which they fed on and by pursuing major social reforms such as allowing women to drive, opening cinemas and restoring the Saudis’ life back to normal prior to Sahwa and with the spirit of 2018.

The disappearance of these instigators’ voice mitigated pressure, and a new tolerant rhetoric replaced that dark image thanks to the crown prince’s statements that called for restoring moderate Islam that’s open to all religions and cultures and to his historical visits like those to Saint Mark's Coptic Orthodox Cathedral in Alexandria and the Anglican church in London. He associated his words with action. Saudi Arabia’s image thus surprisingly changed during a short time from a country that’s accused of exporting extremism into a country whom there is international hope it will eliminate extremism. It overcame a difficult obstacle and became a power capable of changing history by solidifying the culture of tolerance and moderation in the entire region and getting rid of the disease of extremism which obstructed Muslims for centuries.

The second party is the Qatari media outlets which adopted two different contradictory rhetoric; a national Brotherhood rhetoric to appeal to its Arab audience and a leftist rhetoric to appeal to its western audience. Both aim to tarnish Saudi Arabia’s image to serve Hamad bin Jassem’s and Hamad bin Khalifa’s project in Doha. The Brotherhood’s media has for years been occupied with strengthening extremist rhetoric by supporting local figures allied with it. These figures made television appearances via the Brotherhood’s media outlets and always visited Doha. However, they lost this card when they were prohibited from promoting their dangerous ideas.

Inciting against Saudi reforms

Most recently, these media outlets began to incite against all Saudi reforms and positive measures, thus adopting a propaganda that professionally dragged them down. Boycotting Qatar exposed the truth about the Brotherhood’s media and how it’s a guided media that claims defending rights when in fact it’s an arena for instigators and advocates of hate. Meanwhile, the leftist western media which is supported by Qatar focused on religious and social affairs like women’s rights, arts and tolerance; however, they’re no longer attractive or convincing after the recent wave of consecutive reforms. How can a country be accused of exporting terrorism when it has an orchestra, Opera House with France’s participation, and Al-Ula, the largest open air museum in the world? Plans A and B failed so they resorted to fabricated hashtags for their unconvincing and uninfluential press coverages.

The third party is the leftist American media outlets that are skeptic of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia’s enemies, whether Iranians or Brotherhood affiliates, played a big role in launching fierce campaigns without strong defenses. During his US tour, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was candid while discussing some of the most sensitive matters like Wahhabism, corruption, the royal family, Sahwa, Iran and others. In the past some topics were prohibited and not discussed or publicly brought up. This created mysteriousness which was exploited to guide raging campaigns against the “backward” kingdom which is not “open” as they described it. Prince Mohammed did much more than turning the tables and provided strong, persuasive and smart answers to sensitive matters and turned them into ordinary and simple issues which are no longer used as a platform to attack and target Saudi Arabia.

During my first few days in the US as a student, a man became upset after he learned of my nationality and took me by surprise when he made angry critical statements about Saudi Arabia then left before I could say a single word. I did not blame him for what he said because I knew that he based his remarks on ideas which he heard from Saudi extremists and rival media outlets which focused on what serves their ideologies and agendas. What will happen if I meet him now? What will he object on in such an angry manner? Women have been allowed to drive, cinemas will open soon, the orchestra played its music, tolerant ideas prospered and extremists were silenced. He will be just like media outlets that are hostile to Saudi Arabia – confused now that they have ran out of cards to play and which until a few months ago they had successfully used to win the game from the first round.


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He did not. Right now he's a good little boy to Uncle Sam. He's buying lots of weapons from them and obeying his uncle just like someone named Hussein of Iraq used to do . Right now, all the dirt about KSA is being kept in the dark. Just wait until he disobey his uncle. All the dirt will come out
 
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He did not. Right now he's a good little boy to Uncle Sam. He's buying lots of weapons from them and obeying his uncle just like someone named Hussein of Iraq used to do . Right now, all the dirt about KSA is being kept in the dark. Just wait until he disobey his uncle. All the dirt will come out
It is obvious that you do not know much about KSA..Uncle Sam is the uncle of everyone it seems! You just underestimate KSA for some reason..that reason ignores!?

This wicked prince is doomed! He should pack his bags and settle down in Las Vegas, his dreamland.
Might be your dream projected on the prince!? look deeper you should find out by yourself..
 
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The yemen war is MBS and MBS alone.
Oil policies trying to kill of shale oil are also thought to be him.

Now his strong arm tactics against his cousins and consolidating power have weakened the foundations of their rule since it now rests with whatever allies he can gather; which arent many.

As for the kingdom, the sort of forced smiles and fear you see on the faces of certain people talking from there shows the actual reality of him as an uncompromising dictator.

Is there progress? Yes, very much and I could not be happier regarding him taking on the extremist elements in the Kingdom, but it is those same elements that did Saadat in... and the same could befall him.
Yemen war is Houthis who started it..and if you say it is his war that he must be the most powerful man in the world, because the UN backs him with resolutions.. So it is known that Houthis are behind the conflict..

The Royal family is as solid as it has ever been my friend, there is no conflict, A crown prince going about his business to better his land is perceived as consolidating power!?

Sadat played politics in a time of war, and sacrificed a whole armored brigade to save Syria.. that was seen as state treason and elements of the army took revenge for their fallen comrades due to his politics.... there is no comparison here.. and believe it or not, MBS does not fear death, he just goes about his business of reforms and he is very popular with the youth as well as most of the older..So he is safer than unpopular leaders..

Most people seem to dislike him on this forum, but does that matter much when the most influential people in the world roll red carpets for him and agree to assist him in his task of bettering his country???

This wicked prince is doomed! He should pack his bags and settle down in Las Vegas, his dreamland.
Just too much hate and empty rhetoric about someone you have no close knowledge about..anyone can say anything about you..too..but does it matter in real life?
 
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Yemen war is Houthis who started it..and if you say it is his war that he must be the most powerful man in the world, because the UN backs him with resolutions.. So it is known that Houthis are behind the conflict..

The Royal family is as solid as it has ever been my friend, there is no conflict, A crown prince going about his business to better his land is perceived as consolidating power!?

Sadat played politics in a time of war, and sacrificed a whole armored brigade to save Syria.. that was seen as state treason and elements of the army took revenge for their fallen comrades due to his politics.... there is no comparison here.. and believe it or not, MBS does not fear death, he just goes about his business of reforms and he is very popular with the youth as well as most of the older..So he is safer than unpopular leader..

Most people seem to dislike him on this forum , but does that matter much when the most influential people in the world roll red carpets for him and agree to assist him in his task of bettering his country???


Just too much hate and empty rhetoric about someone you have no close knowledge about..anyone can say anything about you..too..but does it matter in real life?
The world also likes Israel and Modi along with giving no hoots about the Palestinians or Kashmiris, you believe we should praise them too?

Sheep care for the world opinions rather than searching for factual realities.
 
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The world also likes Israel and Modi along with giving no hoots about the Palestinians or Kashmiris, you believe we should praise them too?

Sheep care for the world opinions rather than searching for factual realities.
Dear Oscar, you talked yourself about many positives going on in KSA..those are factual realities..
 
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Dear Oscar, you talked yourself about many positives going on in KSA..those are factual realities..
We aren’t discounting factual realities of positive developments, but rather the dangers of what has been created by an overly ambitious guy trying to take power.

It is foolish to forget the well oiled insurgent and division spreading machine known as the Iranian state apparatus as we saw the effects in Pakistan during the 90s.
But at the same time, Yemen has been a bloodbath for which all the GCC states are no less than genocidal maniacs out for glory.
 
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We aren’t discounting factual realities of positive developments, but rather the dangers of what has been created by an overly ambitious guy trying to take power.

It is foolish to forget the well oiled insurgent and division spreading machine known as the Iranian state apparatus as we saw the effects in Pakistan during the 90s.
But at the same time, Yemen has been a bloodbath for which all the GCC states are no less than genocidal maniacs out for glory.
Let's agree to disagree on Yemen.. a war torn country for almost 6 decades..
Didn't Pakistan go after TTP? that is with what the Houthi issue should be compared to in Yemen.. while we a all agree that the Yemeni people are the ones who are paying the price.. but there is no much choice but to fight the Houthis, who want nothing to do with a peace deal..
 
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Let's agree to disagree on Yemen.. a war torn country for almost 6 decades..
Didn't Pakistan go after TTP? that is with what the Houthi issue should be compared to in Yemen.. while we a all agree that the Yemeni people are the ones who are paying the price.. but there is no much choice but to fight the Houthis, who want nothing to do with a peace deal..
Pakistan hasn’t crossed the Afghan border and bombed Afghan villages indiscriminately in the name of hunting TTP.
This is what the GCC is doing.
 
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