How archaeology in Pakistan is forced to deny the nation's Hindu past.

[Kabira]

...the present day pakistan is the product of rapes that were done to the present day pakistani's mother, grandmother..grand mother..
Pity is that an average pakistani sides with the rapist of his grand mother..great grand mother..
Pity.. How can they sleep... don't they have any conscious...

Rape rape rape, no wonder India is known as rapistan.

 

[Gautam]

You are asking an apple to call itself an orange. Why should Maurya be a first Pakistani? i fail to understand. He has no relevance because pakistanis are not indian nationalists, even if they were hindu in religion today. Thats my point.

Was maurya's empire for hinduism? i dont think so. He supported jainism and budhism, correct me please.

You see we dont consider him as a Hindu Jain or Buddhist empire. We consider it an Indian empire. I hope you get the point that its not about religion that I am talking about, its about the people who considered themselves locals.

Also, innocent Pakistanis claim out of joy that Mohammad bin Qasim is the first Pakistani because he established Islam in Sindh / Gujarat by conquering territory. That is of course just an innocent analogy, even if it is false. Actually, if we do take the idea as true then the first Pakistani are others. Hazrat Usman Ghani RA, the companion of Prophet Muhammad salat wa salam alaih, who sent armies into Balochistan and border areas of Afghanistan to conquer territory from hostile tribes.

Qasim is considered first Pakistani by Jinnah too and its part of your school curriculum. Its not an analogy as you are trying to portray. And I have given you enough reasons why he is considered as first Pakistani. Its because of the religion and nothing else.

Like i said before, if you convert to Christianity tomorrow, then the first Pakistani will be Prince Charles. The rule is "Change as you Go"

 

[waz]

Pakistan does have a Hindu and Buddhist past and that is plain to see from the numerous heritage sites we have.

No one should be ashamed of this. I for one am proud of our roots and what our great ancestors accomplished e.g. IVC.

Remember the Arabs were once a people noted for their pagan culture before they became Muslims. There were many good notable qualities the people had, even though they were not Muslims. Our ancestors also had great qualities and to deny their identity and therefore by default our history is silly.

 

[greatone]

Like i said before, if you convert to Christianity tomorrow, then the first Pakistani will be Prince Charles. The rule is "Change as you Go"

A better example would be Obama.

If Obama invads Pakistan and converts them to Christianity over a few centuries then Obama will become first Pakistani

 

[Kabira]

...but we punish the rapist...and you make them your baaps...
...get the difference ????
...BTW, I don't expect much from you....who can not stand for his mother....can not stand for anythings..
BTW, I read about Kanjars in pakistan..

yaar mein bhi ghaliya de sakhta hoon, but this time i will call @Aeronaut, @WebMaster, @Jungibaaz to take care of you.

 

[Tangent]

yaar mein bhi ghaliya de sakhta hoon, but this time i will call @Aeronaut, @WebMaster, @Jungibaaz to take care of you.

...Reality hurts.!!!!!..till how long you will live in denial...???

 

[Kabira]

...Reality hurts.!!!!!..till how long you will live in denial...???

Little men sorry but i will not go down to your level.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Your assumptions about the 'Pakistani ignorance' is an evidence of your own ignorance.

Maurya empire was the result of a 'civil war'. No empire has ever been the 'liberators', they are the defination of everything 'anti liberty'.

We were never under a 'Greek occupation'. Greeks were defeated in Pakistan BEFORE they faced the Indians which is why they simply withdrew rather than fighting another war.

Can you name the commander in chief of the Maurya army?

Sir,Buddhism was first properly preached in Tibet by a great Bengali Buddhist scholar named Atisha Dipakara,who was the principal of the Vikramshila Buddhist University in present day Bihar.He is the reason why Tibet converted to Buddhism in the late 10th century A.D.
Atiśa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Tangent]

Little men sorry but i will not go down to your level.

...you have already reached the level ..where U can't go further low....
..wanna catch with us...then rise.....
May God give you peace to ur soul...
..I rest my case....

 

[Multani]

You see we dont consider him as a Hindu Jain or Buddhist empire. We consider it an Indian empire. I hope you get the point that its not about religion that I am talking about, its about the people who considered themselves locals.


Qasim is considered first Pakistani by Jinnah too and its part of your school curriculum. Its not an analogy as you are trying to portray. And I have given you enough reasons why he is considered as first Pakistani. Its because of the religion and nothing else.

Like i said before, if you convert to Christianity tomorrow, then the first Pakistani will be Prince Charles. The rule is "Change as you Go"

yes, i get your point. But you are not getting the one i am making. We Pakistanis are not indian nationalists. We care less for an indian hero or an indian empire. We have our Pakistani heroes. One of them is Alexander the Great.

Why are you asking us Pakistanis to be proud of an indian hero?

There are many first Pakistanis. Hazrat Usman RA who sent armies to Balochistan even before Mohammad Bin Qasim.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Tu hojaye Ghazwa E Pakistan by hindustani PDF members...

@FaujHistorian

I have yet to read OP in detail to see the speicifc cases.

Bharatya nationalism forces modern day Indians to be dominant force culturally, economically, and militarily. That's great for them

However that also leeds to strange historical claims why because the last 70 years history has been teaching Bharatis a lot of good things but also incorrect historically.

Sindh valley civilization is unique so is Ganga valley civilization.

and then there is lot of interaction through the ages.

So there are common things and there are unique things about the two valleys and their history.


While Pakistanis should not deny the common things.

Baharatis too should recognize things that are unique to Sindh valley civilization that may not be "hindu" in character.

Peace

 

[Contrarian]

Buddhas was born in Nepal though.
Haha c'mon mate google is your friend.

His birth place has never been confirmed. All that is known is that it was in Shakya kingdom - which spanned Nepal, Bihar and UP.
While most accounts place it in Lumbini(border of Nepal and UP) it is not known for sure. What is known is that it was in Shakya kingdom.

Pakistan does have a Hindu and Buddhist past and that is plain to see from the numerous heritage sites we have.

No one should be ashamed of this. I for one am proud of our roots and what our great ancestors accomplished e.g. IVC.

Remember the Arabs were once a people noted for their pagan culture before they became Muslims. There were many good notable qualities the people had, even though they were not Muslims. Our ancestors also had great qualities and to deny their identity and therefore by default our history is silly.

I now officially doubt whether you are a Pakistani. You don't talk like one. Ever.

 

[Cherokee]

So many retards bunched up in a single thread ......

 

[Contrarian]

While Pakistanis should not deny the common things.

Baharatis too should recognize things that are unique to Sindh valley civilization that may not be "hindu" in character.

Peace

You do know that a lot of IVC was in current day India. So whether or not IVC was completely hindu or vedic or xyz is immaterial. It still remains Indian for us.

 

[waz]

I now officially doubt whether you are a Pakistani. You don't talk like one. Ever.

Pakistani through and through my friend. Part of that is to love our heritage.