How a Second Korean War will be Fought

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

First, it should be borne in mind that the bulk of the military mass will now be provided by South Korea, which has around 5mn men in the reserves and a massive industrial base of its own. The most important US contribution will be its surveillance and reconaissance capabilities, air and naval power, and amphibious operations. Such a single-minded emphasis on the US is misplaced.

Second, whereas in the 1980′s the KPA was a motivated and able force, it is far from clear whether that is still the case. There are numerous reports of metastasizing corruption within the DPRK reaching to the highest levels of government. As happened in 2003 Iraq, it may even be possible to bribe some North Korean generals into non-interference or surrender.

Third, likewise it is not at all clear that the general North Korean population will willingly fight for the regime, at least not with the fanatic zeal one sees in DPRK propaganda. Yes, the hermit kingdom remains, by and large, a very closed society. However, hundreds of thousands have emigrated into China, and millions have now been exposed to videos of life in South Korea. Since the early 2000′s, VCR’s have become accessible to better-off North Koreans, along with black-market DVD’s of South Korean dramas and films. Observers report a (relative) relaxation of social controls – not for lack of effort, but simply because the resources available for surveillance have plummeted along with everything else - and increasing disillusionment with the government.

Fourth, another very important thing is that the DPRK’s fertility rate has been at or below the replacement level rate of 2.1 children per woman since the 1990′s. Historically, only high-fertility nations have been able to sustain intense guerilla campaigns or “people’s wars“, since the death of a son is far more tragic – and economically ruinous – when he is your only one. Moreover, most of the troops invading North Korea will be fellow Koreans – yet another disincentive for waging an uncompromising resistance struggle.

Fifth, the importance of the allied technological edge must not be underestimated. When you are losing five or ten soldiers for every one of the enemy’s, the will to fight becomes incredibly sapped. And those are the likely ratios when low-category North Korean units come up against the advancing Combined Forces.

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[NWO]

If you ask me, N. Korea and S. Korea need to merge back up together. And I think it eventually will be.

The only question is whether it will be peacefully, or through war.

 

[TorontoNoctis]

Your link's broken.

South Korea can't absorb North Korea the way West Germany absorbed East Germany. Remember how it happened, the dollars of both were pegged equal and the East was an economic drag on the West for years. Not only that but giving North Koreans South Korean citizenship means destroying South Korean social services which obviously couldn't handle 25 million new citizens. And if you're going to create a "second class" citizen, what's the point of reunification (the whole point being one country, one government)?

Unfortunately the best solution is for Kim to keep getting his jollies off little girls and ignore the South. Then when he dies, China drives in to "help" with the humanitarian crisis . On the way putting bullets in the head of any holdouts and creating a new province. Being a totalitarian state, China doesn't suffer from the same problems absorbing 25 million new people as South Korea would. Such would be the best solution for world peace.

Then maybe, many many years or decades later when the quality of living of the North has been brought up, China gives up North Korea when the reunification isn't so impossible.

 

[chauism]

Your link's broken.

South Korea can't absorb North Korea the way West Germany absorbed East Germany. Remember how it happened, the dollars of both were pegged equal and the East was an economic drag on the West for years. Not only that but giving North Koreans South Korean citizenship means destroying South Korean social services which obviously couldn't handle 25 million new citizens. And if you're going to create a "second class" citizen, what's the point of reunification (the whole point being one country, one government)?

Unfortunately the best solution is for Kim to keep getting his jollies off little girls and ignore the South. Then when he dies, China drives in to "help" with the humanitarian crisis . On the way putting bullets in the head of any holdouts and creating a new province. Being a totalitarian state, China doesn't suffer from the same problems absorbing 25 million new people as South Korea would. Such would be the best solution for world peace.

Then maybe, many many years or decades later when the quality of living of the North has been brought up, China gives up North Korea when the reunification isn't so impossible.

One problem though, why would China want have anything do with those hardwired 25 million people from North Korea in the first place?

 

[TorontoNoctis]

They probably wouldn't.

If they did though it would probably come after some sort of "complete collapse" of the North Korean economy. The DMZ being the most heavily fortified border in the world wouldn't be easy for refugees to get through. But the North would. If the hundreds of thousands turns into millions China might just get sick of it and move in. Certainly China cannot tolerate millions of illegals. Action would probably come after some UN resolution authorizing humanitarian aid and with America stretched China would take lead (and should). Then PLA troops drive in with grain trucks and at the same time take over.

 

[T-Rex]

First, it should be borne in mind that the bulk of the military mass will now be provided by South Korea, which has around 5mn men in the reserves and a massive industrial base of its own. The most important US contribution will be its surveillance and reconaissance capabilities, air and naval power, and amphibious operations. Such a single-minded emphasis on the US is misplaced.

Second, whereas in the 1980′s the KPA was a motivated and able force, it is far from clear whether that is still the case. There are numerous reports of metastasizing corruption within the DPRK reaching to the highest levels of government. As happened in 2003 Iraq, it may even be possible to bribe some North Korean generals into non-interference or surrender.

Third, likewise it is not at all clear that the general North Korean population will willingly fight for the regime, at least not with the fanatic zeal one sees in DPRK propaganda. Yes, the hermit kingdom remains, by and large, a very closed society. However, hundreds of thousands have emigrated into China, and millions have now been exposed to videos of life in South Korea. Since the early 2000′s, VCR’s have become accessible to better-off North Koreans, along with black-market DVD’s of South Korean dramas and films. Observers report a (relative) relaxation of social controls – not for lack of effort, but simply because the resources available for surveillance have plummeted along with everything else - and increasing disillusionment with the government.

Fourth, another very important thing is that the DPRK’s fertility rate has been at or below the replacement level rate of 2.1 children per woman since the 1990′s. Historically, only high-fertility nations have been able to sustain intense guerilla campaigns or “people’s wars“, since the death of a son is far more tragic – and economically ruinous – when he is your only one. Moreover, most of the troops invading North Korea will be fellow Koreans – yet another disincentive for waging an uncompromising resistance struggle.

Fifth, the importance of the allied technological edge must not be underestimated. When you are losing five or ten soldiers for every one of the enemy’s, the will to fight becomes incredibly sapped. And those are the likely ratios when low-category North Korean units come up against the advancing Combined Forces.

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Keep dreaming, I'm sure the North wants bird-brains like you to assess its capabilities. When actual confrontation will occur people like you will be seeing stars.

 

[CardSharp]

So what is the point of this thread? After all of your 'points' to keep in mind, what you are really asking is 'how badly will we crush the DPRK?' and 'how awesome is America? F*** yeah!"

you really do remind me of this idiot

 

[T-Rex]

So what is the point of this thread? After all of your 'points' to keep in mind, what you are really asking is 'how badly will we crush the DPRK?' and 'how awesome is America? F*** yeah!"

you really do remind me of this idiot

The point of this thread is to intimidate DPRK and score political victory without firing a bullet. Now, that may have worked against Libya, but DPRK is not Libya and some idiots cannot figure that out.

 

[CardSharp]

The point of this thread is to intimidate DPRK and score political victory without firing a bullet. Now, that may have worked against Libya, but DPRK is not Libya and some idiots cannot figure that out.

Libya was a papertiger but the NORKs are dead crazy. I really do mean insane. here is a short list of their craziness



1968 commando raid – a team of thirty-one Northern elite troops in ROK uniforms almost bluffed their way into the Presidential palace. Twenty-eight out of thirty-one died in the firefight that followed.


1968 Attempted uprising – The same year, the North landed 120 men on the East coast of S. Korea. Tried to incite an uprising. Blood shed followed and they shot a 10 year old who muttered something anti-commie. Only 7 out of 120 were captured, the rest died fighting or commited suicide.


1976 axe murders – NK leutenent hacked 2 american officers to death with hatchets over a fight about a poplar tree. A show of force only by US and SK.


1983 Burma assassination attempt – The North Koreans tried to kill the South Korean President and most of his cabinet on their visit to Rangoon. They sent three agents to plant a bomb at a shrine to wipe the whole Southern leadership out . The President survived, but 18 other South Korean officials were blown to bits, along with a lot of Burmese.


1987 Airline bombing – Kimmy J himself ordered the bombing of a randomly-selected Korean Air flight that killed 135 people. He thought it’d be a good way of scaring tourists off going to Seoul for the 1988 Olympics.


1996 Sub raid – a Northern sub dropped off 26 men, some in ROK uniforms, some in civvies lugging guns and RPGs, near a SK village and started shooting. Again fought to the death.

 

[gambit]

The point of this thread is to intimidate DPRK and score political victory without firing a bullet. Now, that may have worked against Libya, but DPRK is not Libya and some idiots cannot figure that out.

What does that mean? Different is inherently better? Plenty of people said Iraq 'is not' Vietnam. So many merely spout off this 'is not' without explaining how this 'is not' an advantage. Only idiots will buy it.

 

[zagahaga]

Lol the article is funny very funny . Wait LOL. Ok ok. Now n Korea will not want s.Korea Take it over when war will be declared you can say s Korea will be gone in a matter of hourn the shear number of artilery tanks rockets are over whleming and that will make seould into a liveing rubel

 

[gambit]

Your link's broken.

South Korea can't absorb North Korea the way West Germany absorbed East Germany.

SKR have no choice. If 'time heals all wounds' then as time passes, it will also cement any separation. The two Germanys and the two Koreas were forcibly created. Their separations were not by mutual agreements from the people. There is now one Germany and despite the technical difficulties from reunification, the German people themselves are not asking for another geopolitical division. Culture, language, and history are the ingredients of a moral adhesive that binds individuals into a 'nation'. China will not allow a Korean culture to upset its own. That leave the Korean people themselves to correct the wrong that was imposed upon them. If NKR collapsed from any reason, either China must step into that geopolitical divide and assert a colonialist government on the Northern side of that divide, or allow that side to be absorbed by the South.

 

[zagahaga]

Lol the article is funny very funny . Wait LOL. Ok ok. Now n Korea will not want s.Korea Take it over when war will be declared you can say s Korea will be gone in a matter of hourn the shear number of artilery tanks rockets are over whleming and that will make seould into a liveing rubel

Sorry guy I am not a bad speller it's my I phone it self corrects it's self............ It has a mind of it's own

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The biggest problem is that the South Koean capital city of Seoul, is too close to the North Korean border.

The Seoul National Capital Area, contains around HALF of South Korea's total population. That's about 24.5 million civilians.

North Korea can hit Seoul with thousands of artillery pieces and even a nuclear weapon if they are desperate enough. I think almost everyone would regard such mass casualties as unacceptable.

Also, China is afraid that that if North Korea collapses, millions of refugees will stream over the border into North East China.

I think the most important thing is to reduce tensions in the region... since another Korean war would result in millions of innocent people dying. Nobody wants that.

 

[gambit]

If Seoul is 'destroyed' as some here ridiculously believed can be done, does that mean South Korea as a political entity will equally rapidly collapsed? No. The existence of any political entity rests upon the resiliency of its political leadership and the ability of that leadership to make its presence known. That is why we have something like 'government-in-exile' or some royalty figure claiming to be the true leader of a country while living outside of that country.

The SKRean government can move itself out of harm's way. That political structure can be physically protected by distance and by military forces. At worst, let the capital city be destroyed. If a divided country -- Germany -- can be rebuilt, why not a city?

Wait...Let me guess...Because Korea 'is not' Germany...

There goes that 'is not' fallacy again...