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isnt it better to just install the better engine at the gazzelle instead of buying a whole new platform?View attachment 859124
A version with 1600 hp engines and slight modifications, a good alternative to the Aerospatiale SA342 Gazelle
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isnt it better to just install the better engine at the gazzelle instead of buying a whole new platform?
Gazelles can be replaced by the Light Utility Helicopter as the sizes are similar, the Dhruv is bigger.@Lord Of Gondor , what do you think of all this?
I think Egypt will buy M-346 trainer aircraft and HAL Tejas as LIFT missions.Gazelles can be replaced by the Light Utility Helicopter as the sizes are similar, the Dhruv is bigger.
The LIFT question is more interesting. I think it is Italy's deal to lose.
Gazelles can be replaced by the Light Utility Helicopter as the sizes are similar, the Dhruv is bigger.
The LIFT question is more interesting. I think it is Italy's deal to lose.
Especially with America's successive refusal to supply the F-16 to Saudi Arabia, which are sold at a price of 150 million dollars
The Gazelle is not really considered a utility helo, though. It's actually labeled as a light attack and anti-tank helicopter, the latter being its primary mission in the EAF. An upgrade in size to the Dhruv might not necessarily be a bad thing. The Rudra actually looks friggin awesome! Now you know why I was hanging around with you fellas on the IAF thread for the last few years. I knew something like this was bound to happen between India and Egypt except I never actually came out and said it too many times, especially on a Pakistani forum lmfao. Good days ahead ISA.
I totally agree with the ball being in the Italian hands. I also think that if it is true, their asking price for the M-346 Arimachi at $50 million a piece is an absolute crazy crack joke. Meaning someone is high on crack in that office putting that price up. I really hope if the EAF goes with the mega deal, it doesn't pay anything remotely close to that crazy *** crackhead number.
Although if the EAF had to supposedly negotiated the Typhoon number from €200 million down to €125 million, it might not be too far fetched for the Italians to put a figure of $50 million on those trainers and a greater possibility the EAF will have negotiated harder for a reduction.
Wuuuuuuut?! Come, on, maaaan! Please give me some source that mentions that crackhead price to the Saudis!? Now that is even crazier than the 50 mill for the M-346 or the 200 mill for the EFT. Even if they were Block 102s with SABR rattling AESA radars and F-35 avionics suite, to ask the Saudis to pay $150 million is an absolute disgrace. Impossible the US is that stupid to do that. I don't believe it!
Jordan believes that the price of 8 planes was estimated at 2.1 billion dollars. When I mentioned the number, I mentioned the level of pricing for the plane.
Well saudis dont really careWuuuuuuut?! Come, on, maaaan! Please give me some source that mentions that crackhead price to the Saudis!? Now that is even crazier than the 50 mill for the M-346 or the 200 mill for the EFT. Even if they were Block 102s with SABR rattling AESA radars and F-35 avionics suite, to ask the Saudis to pay $150 million is an absolute disgrace. Impossible the US is that stupid to do that. I don't believe it!
That's insane because the baseline price for the F-16 block 70 is $64 million.
$64 million
Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 70/72: $64 million (Image: Lockheed Martin) The F-16 was created as a light and maneuverable fighter jet that would offer an affordable alternative to the F-15.
10. Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 70/72: $64 million
(Image: Lockheed Martin)
The F-16 was created as a light and maneuverable fighter jet that would offer an affordable alternative to the F-15. Its older variants cost roughly $30 million apiece – cheaper than the vast majority of contemporary fighters – but the most advanced ones are really quite pricey.
The Block 70 and 72 configurations include much of the upgrades intended for the F-16V, and most likely are very similar to the F-21, a jet Lockheed Martin has offered to India. While we may never know the price of the F-21 or the F-16V, the cost of a single F-16 Block 70 gives an insight into how much a top-of-the-line jet, based on the venerable F-16 airframe, may cost.
Source.
This is from the top 10 most expensive fighters. Of course baseline price is typically lower than export cost, but the difference between $64 million and $150 million is off the charts lol. The US obviously has the best technology out there, without a question and I don't think anyone can argue that. Which then makes it overreach when pricing for foreign contracts and they probably tried to rip off the Saudis but I'm sure the Saudis, despite being blessed with incredible wealth are certainly not stupid and with Biden in office will be even more resistant to US ripping off.