Hostile actions / propaganda against Turkey

[Saithan]

It's just another way for EU politics to keep the ball rolling. until 2010, EU would have eaten out of Turkeys hand, but after RTE went rabid things have just gone from bad to worse, and I think it culminated when he fired Davutoglu.

Talking back and acting as if you have rabis isn't going to solve our situation, being pragmatic and not bitching like a whore whenever some EU dude opens his braindead mouth would be the right thing to do.

And RTE war on ideology definitely hurt our military. Now they're releasing criminals because they want to jail ppl for their ideology...

 

[SouI]

And RTE war on ideology definitely hurt our military. Now they're releasing criminals because they want to jail ppl for their ideology...

So obeying a US puppet and being a traitor through it and going as far as staging multiple coups and killing thousands in the meanwhile, playing with the lives of tens of millions of people with all those cheatings in every single exam for many decades, is an ideology?

If you really believe that nonsense, I have some bridges to sell you.

 

[Saithan]

So obeying a US puppet and being a traitor through it and going as far as staging multiple coups and killing thousands in the meanwhile, playing with the lives of tens of millions of people with all those cheatings in every single exam for many decades, is an ideology?

If you really believe that nonsense, I have some bridges to sell you.

I know i'm simplifying things, but the aftermath of the coup attempt is pretty horrible, and let's not forget that it was only a few who attempted the coup most stayed at their post which should mean something, if 40% of the officer cadre had joined the coup then we'd have a shitload of more problems than we ended up with. Also you need to prove allegations and not just blame someone. Perhaps AKP enjoyed the influence of gulenist during the balyoz and they're afraid because they know how far they reach ?

Well it sucks to be at the shit end of the stick.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Don't worry Pakistan will always be with Turkey

 

[Bismarck]

pkk supporter scum and maybe she is yezidi?

In a german forum: http://www.balkanforum.info/f41/sevim-dagdelen-linke-terroristin-241558/

 

[Saithan]

My german is horrible it was an elective course, but I get the gist of the comments the zeitung is more difficult to understand.

But basically it mentions something about the woman Sevim having double moral, meaning she's condemning terror while she also support terror. The zeitung (newspaper) then lists a factsheet and references to prove that.

 

[Bismarck]

My german is horrible it was an elective course, but I get the gist of the comments the zeitung is more difficult to understand.

But basically it mentions something about the woman Sevim having double moral, meaning she's condemning terror while she also support terror. The zeitung (newspaper) then lists a factsheet and references to prove that.

The conflict between Turkey and pkk/supporter getting more and more discharged in Germany.

 

[CrimsonFury]

The conflict between Turkey and pkk/supporter getting more and more discharged in Germany.

Get used to it. you can't turn a blind eye to terrorists and expect nothing to happen. Karma is a cold mistress

 

[Timur]

In a german forum: http://www.balkanforum.info/f41/sevim-dagdelen-linke-terroristin-241558/

ok now I know she is yezidi..

The conflict between Turkey and pkk/supporter getting more and more discharged in Germany.

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if only the germans would not give 100 % support to pkk yezidi kurds (no matter how radical and destructive they are) the things would not be such bad.. because of the germans kurds show balls.. and because turks are mostly frindly and patient it did not get worser..

even the german know how ther pkk scum is they did not allow the kurdish folksfest because of this destructive behavior.. they bite the hand wich feeds them..

 

[Beno]

Get used to it. you can't turn a blind eye to terrorists and expect nothing to happen. Karma is a cold mistress

The problem with an attitude like that is that the anti-Turkish groups are well established in German political elite while the Turkish minority living in Turkey doesn't have any influence in German politics.

Right now Turkey is being portrayed as a country that helps ISIS and kills Kurds who are fighting ISIS and who also genocided the Armenians.

On a personal level I don't think Turkey should have influence on German policies since I believe sovereign nations should be able to dictate themselves but Turkey needs to, in one way or another, influence the EU to stop seeing it as an enemy.

You could do this in many ways like starting community organizations for Turks living in Germany (to get them politically interested, so you can vote-out parties who are against Turkey), buy shares in western news organizations (China did this and their human rights abuse hardly ever get mentioned by mainstream media anymore), or start consumer groups in Turkey to get people to stop buying goods from countries that badmouth Turkey.

All in all these measures would be very effective in controlling foreign countries.

Heck, Britain just left the EU so there is a possibility of increased political and economic ties especially now when the EU keeps attack them.

 

[Bismarck]

The problem with an attitude like that is that the anti-Turkish groups are well established in German political elite while the Turkish minority living in Turkey doesn't have any influence in German politics.

Right now Turkey is being portrayed as a country that helps ISIS and kills Kurds who are fighting ISIS and who also genocided the Armenians.

On a personal level I don't think Turkey should have influence on German policies since I believe sovereign nations should be able to dictate themselves but Turkey needs to, in one way or another, influence the EU to stop seeing it as an enemy.

You could do this in many ways like starting community organizations for Turks living in Germany (to get them politically interested, so you can vote-out parties who are against Turkey), buy shares in western news organizations (China did this and their human rights abuse hardly ever get mentioned by mainstream media anymore), or start consumer groups in Turkey to get people to stop buying goods from countries that badmouth Turkey.

All in all these measures would be very effective in controlling foreign countries.

Heck, Britain just left the EU so there is a possibility of increased political and economic ties especially now when the EU keeps attack them.

But their is a party ADD by a turkish owner, who try to mobilize the migrants especially turks, to take political influence in Germany. Maybe you heard about him. https://remziaru.com

 

[Zulkarneyn]

The propaganda warfare against Turkey in Europe is at full throttle. If things continue at this pace it'll get really ugly. Europeans act extremely stupidly, they are mistaking Turks for Arabs, . And there is no way Europe can survive a Turkish agression. They better be careful, the sleeping lion will wake up to roar soon. Vienna, wait for us

Ps. Sometimes going full Markuss is worth it

 

[MarkusS]

The propaganda warfare against Turkey in Europe is at full throttle. If things continue at this pace it'll get really ugly. Europeans act extremely stupidly, they are mistaking Turks for Arabs, . And there is no way Europe can survive a Turkish agression. They better be careful, the sleeping lion will wake up to roar soon. Vienna, wait for us

Ps. Sometimes going full Markuss is worth it

you got crushed there twice. bragging with a gigantic military defeat doesnt strengthen your position.

 

[Timur]

The problem with an attitude like that is that the anti-Turkish groups are well established in German political elite while the Turkish minority living in Turkey doesn't have any influence in German politics.

Right now Turkey is being portrayed as a country that helps ISIS and kills Kurds who are fighting ISIS and who also genocided the Armenians.

On a personal level I don't think Turkey should have influence on German policies since I believe sovereign nations should be able to dictate themselves but Turkey needs to, in one way or another, influence the EU to stop seeing it as an enemy.

You could do this in many ways like starting community organizations for Turks living in Germany (to get them politically interested, so you can vote-out parties who are against Turkey), buy shares in western news organizations (China did this and their human rights abuse hardly ever get mentioned by mainstream media anymore), or start consumer groups in Turkey to get people to stop buying goods from countries that badmouth Turkey.

All in all these measures would be very effective in controlling foreign countries.

Heck, Britain just left the EU so there is a possibility of increased political and economic ties especially now when the EU keeps attack them.

only the worst of the worst from turkey can acess german politics.. no normal turk is able to.. what do you expect from a nation that put SS officers after the war in all high positions (politics and industry) in germany..?

but you are right in the actions we should take..

but instead of voting for CDU or SPD or even worser the green party(you see no major party is for turkey).. turks should vote for those who german politcs are most afraid of.. ultra right wing party that would shock them.. but first turks need a head and an agenda someone who brings them in the right way..

meanwhile the way you can draw a image step by step:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...lbstmordanschlag-veruebt-haben-a-1108783.html

erdogan assumes a child behind the bombing

 

[Timur]

I don't know what they plan but they really concentrade on turkey.. they talk many many times about us..

look at this

totally crap jornalism.. they act like he is a thread and maybe they will be attacked that is what their brains tell them..

they ignore their own problems the real things that happen in germany like their antiislamism racism and an growing extremism by kurds.. I highly think it is planned that they make right wing parties like afd and other stronger by their politics and the jornalism of fear.. with their jornalism they managed to frighten the puplic and they managed to make it normal to be extreem right wing and have racist minds.. he old germany did not have that you couöld not act this way in puplic many germans had this thoughts in their mind but they could not say it they managed to break through