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Proofs How they killed Pakistan military person and How our personnel martyred their lives for us the whole country
Please don't see this if you feel any violence
http://pakalert.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=400
http://pakalert.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=400
shaheeh ka lohu kabhi raghian nahee jata
sad seens
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WAR in Waziristan a background.A message to all Muslims to reflect.
Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Rahim.
Prophet Muhammad SAW a Muslim is one from whose hand and tongues other Muslim is safe.A Muslim Ummah is like a body.If one part of body feels pain the other part of body also feels pain, so is the case with Muslim Ummah.If part of Ummah feels pain then whole ummah feels the pain.
Pakistan is undergoing the worst period in the history of Muslim Ummah.Muslims are fighting between themselves in Waziristan region in NWFP province.Deadly fighting is going on between Pakistan army and Talibans living in that region.But question here arises who is right and who is wrong?
Waziristan borders with Afghanistan.Pashtoon tribe of Waziristan and Afghanistan have never accepted this border called Durand line that divides Pakistan and Afghanistan made by clever British to divide them and families across the border had been freely moving.These pashtoons had been marrying with each other and they always helped each other on difficult times.
America launched attack on Afghanistan on 9/11.Before America attacked , Russians had been defeated by Talibans and Mujahideens and Taliban establised their government in 1996 to 2001 under Ameer ul Momineen Mullah Muhammad Umer. Soon America launched attack , Pakistani army chief and president at that time Musharaf decided to give full support to America.This was unislamic and coward decison by Commander of army who claim that they are Islamic Army.Under this pact with America, Musharaf allowed Americans to establish their bases so that they can kill Muslims in Afghanistan.In the beginning I quoted that Muslim is one from whose and tongue other Muslim is safe.But look here Mushraf did exactly opposite to this.So he does not deserve to be counted among believers.He was actually follower of America's dictation and yearns for dollars and not Islam.So much so that his face pictured in American newspaper like a faithful dog and Bush patting him.Pakistan army under Musharaf also like faithfuls of Musharaf mindlessly start killing those pashtoon of Waziristan region who wanted to save their Muslim brother in Afghanistan.They are the ones from whose hand and tongue, Muslims of Afghanistan were saved.Mushraf start arresting Mujahideens from Pakistan who were crossing durand line and start handing over to America.This worsened the situation and angered Pashtoon Mujahideen.To stop this cruelty Mujahideen formed an organization under the banner of TTP Tekrikay Taliban Pakistan and declared their war against Pakistan Army.Any sane Muslim can decide that this decision against Pakistan army was according to verse of Quran that Allah says in Quran fight with those who fight with you.
Allah says in Quran that KAFIRS are those who make decisions against rules of Allah.This is the reason why Taliban believe that Pakistan army and Government who obey America are Kaffir.Pakistan policy is alway based to please America and accept whatever they tell Pakistan to do.Pakistan have made Christians and Jews as their friends while Allah clearly said and ordered Muslim not to make Jews and Christians as friend and who ever will make them as friend will be like them.
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http://israr84.webs.com/waziristan.html
If Pakistan want to get rid of all this mess solution is one that they have to say GOODBYE to USA..
Whats the duty of every individual:
If that individual is in army. He should have to say that Sorry Boss I cannot kill Muslims for Americans. He shouldnt go to waziristan if going there is necessary he should left his job for Allahs sake .Inshallah Allah will give me better opportunity. Killing muslims just some for thousand rupees is not a wise decision. Generals and brigadiers are taking huge salaries from CIA but Soldiers are loosing emaan just for free
Sahi muslim
Book 020, Number 4533:
It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) said: It is obligatory upon a Muslim that he should listen (to the ruler appointed over him) and obey him whether he likes it or not, except that he is ordered to do a sinful thing. If he is ordered to do a sinful act, a Muslim should neither. listen to him nor should he obey his orders
Sahih Muslim 4569
The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: In the near future there will be Amirs (rulers) and you will like their good deeds and dislike their bad deeds. One who sees through their bad deeds (and tries to prevent their repetition by his hand or through his speech), is absolved from blame, but one who hates their bad deeds (in the heart of his heart, being unable to prevent their recurrence by his hand or his tongue), is (also) safe (so far as God"s wrath is concerned). But one who approves of their bad deeds and imitates them is spiritually ruined. .
Every individual should condemn and disapprove and hate the bad deeds of Army and Pakistan Govt according to his level.Anyone who approve bad deeds of them is just like those who are doing it
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Please Spread this message so that our soldiers , Captains and lefitinents are not manipulated by those Generals who are extremely rich.Who spend luxury life styles in Defence Housing Sector in all cities of Pakistan while they and their children enjoy life in night clubs and discos in those Areas.These general have sold their soles for few Dollars and they spend huge money in Media and TV to encourage NATIONALISM on TV and praising army so that our young children join army with pride.
Nationalism is sin in islam.Under the doctrine of NATIONALISM it is ok that Muslim in Afghanistan or Palestine die as long as Pakistan is safe.This was root reason why Mongols destroyed Baghdad when Baghdad at the time was immersed in Nationalism and allied itself with Mongols in the hope they would be saved while Muslim in neighbouring lands were butchered by Mongols.
America like MONGOLS will attack Pakistan if it is not stopped and Pakistan will witness minarets of skulls.Let us stop our army, stop relying on Ulema especially Sufi Ulema who are again paid servants of Pakistan government and politicians.They will always mislead us.
Aslam Alykum All.
I can write 200 pages to answer you. But i know it wont change your thinking by an ratio. But for others who may read you this is my response.
What ever you have written is utter bull ****?
Not trying to pick a fight here. But I'd like to know just how is it you consider Pakistani soldiers as martyrs?
How are they martyrs? Islamically speaking that is. They are not Mujahideen. They do not fight for Islam, or for the pleasure of Allah Subhanhuwatala, nor do they fight to implement the Law of Allah. They fight under the flag of Nationalism and not La Ilaha Ilalah. How are they martyrs?
I'm not putting them down, but I just do not consider them as martyrs. They are soldiers who died in battle, and nothing more. Martyrdom is reserved only for Mujahideen, who fought only for the sake of Allah, and no other reason.
That whole article of Lieutenant Colonel Tahir Iqbal is just nationalism and nothing more. Nationalism is haram. There is being proud of your country, and then there is what is written there.
I'm not going to say anymore than that, because Its not in my nature to speak Ill of the dead, regardless of who they may be.
Our Soldiers are martyrs because they are fighting against those who have their own version of Islam, who terrorise innocent civilans, who blow up innocent people in markets, who don't allow little girls to go schools etc etc.
The scums have destroyed the true image of Islam and our soldiers are fighting hard to send them to Hell which in other words are Fighting for True ISLAM and hence are MARTYRS.
You probably don't even know what ISLAM is and therefore it's not worth arguing with you. Seems like you are troll.
Laugh all you want to Patriot - but that is my position also and I have stated it earlier, on this forum. And you didn't laugh then.You know i gotta laugh at seagull who thanked such a disgusting post.Seagull buddy are you not the same people who fought for Benglai nationalism?lol world is full of hypocrites or people who love to take shots at others.
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum
Sorry, but that does not make them martyrs. The Pakistani army are not fighting for Islam. They are fighting for Pakistan & on the orders of the Americans.
No one has destroyed the image of Islam. Islam has been attacked since the time of the Prophet Sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam. It was being attacked and criticised centuries before the likes of Al-Qaeda or the Taliban ever existed, who is to blame for that?
Also, who are you to assume they are being sent to hell? They may or may not be responsible for what they have been accused, if they are, then they are very sinful people but they are still Muslims. Their judgement rests with Allah 'azza wa-jall, not with you or the Pakistani army.
And if they you lot really do consider them martyrs, why is it they get a military funeral, with their coffins draped in the flag of Pakistan?
True Martyrs are buried on the battlefield where they died. They are not washed, no Janazah is to be prayed over them.
I am not a troll. I came here for a proper discussion. It seems many here are overly sensitive when it comes to the Pakistani army or its soldiers being questioned or criticised. Thats nationalistic pride for you.